Discussion of New Switzerland

Started by Walter, November 15, 2010, 09:20:22 AM

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Walter

Perhaps it is safer for the Swiss to send their goods via Japan (or Korea and Hainan to be more precise) and thus avoiding most of the dangerous waters along the Chinese coastline.

Sachmle

Perhaps the Swiss just want an escort so they can know where RRC/MK units are so their subs can attack them. And while the subs attack the RRC/MK naval vessels the "merchant" ships carrying Swiss supplies uncover their 6" batteries, since they'll probably really be AMCs. Of course some will just be loaded with explosives and placed as close as possible to any Chinese capital ships/larger cruisers nearby.
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Valles

Or they just want to make a quick buck with a double standard.

It's hard to tell, with the Swiss.
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Walter

I think that that is right. The humanitarian aid one sends to a nation to help them out should cost nothing, yet the Swiss are asking money for it. Therefor Japan hopes that the Swiss will use the safety of Japan's soil to move those goods into MK/RRC so the Japanese can put a hefty transport and import tax on it which the Swiss will need to pay. :D

snip

Quote from: Sachmle on November 15, 2010, 09:59:13 AM
Perhaps the Swiss just want an escort so they can know where RRC/MK units are so their subs can attack them. And while the subs attack the RRC/MK naval vessels the "merchant" ships carrying Swiss supplies uncover their 6" batteries, since they'll probably really be AMCs. Of course some will just be loaded with explosives and placed as close as possible to any Chinese capital ships/larger cruisers nearby.
(Looks around) Cruisers? Capital Ships? I have those???
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Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
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Sachmle

Quote from: snip on November 15, 2010, 11:13:02 AM
(Looks around) Cruisers? Capital Ships? I have those???

Why yes. You have Shengzi, Wusheng, and Weiheng. Plus I was referring to BOTH Chinas when I said Chinese. Swiss don't care what flag you're flying, you're still Chinese.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

snip

I swear, I thought they were razor blades.
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

ctwaterman

Dont Worry I will be asking Nations to attatch a real $$$$ sign to any aid they are sending.   I know Green Cross dontations have always been in $$$ so I have no intentions of making aide free especially if someone wants real Benefits from it.

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damocles

New Swiss ships are barred from Dutch and NOI patrolled waters under the 1919 Naval Law and are considered pirates. They KNOW this.

NvR.  

TexanCowboy

Quote from: damocles on November 15, 2010, 08:20:56 PM
New Swiss ships are barred from Dutch and NOI patrolled waters under the 1919 Naval Law and are considered pirates. They KNOW this.

NvR.  

That's grounds for war for almost every civilized power. If the Dutch do it to the NS, what's to stop them from doing it to Gran Columbia. It's one thing if it was related to the war, but quite another if it's a law....seems like it's time to liberate some colonies....

ctwaterman

Really.... grounds for war... Why ?????

Remember right now the New Swiss have as of November/December 1919 a Cease Fire and only a cease Fire with Italia.   Nations who have deep seated disagreements with each other have usually showed their displeasure by denything their "Enemeis" the right to use their ports and territorial waters.

The Republic of Orange from the End of the 1st Rift War until now has been denied the right of innocent passage in Italia territorial waters, nor did there merchant ships have the right to use Italia Territorial waters or Ports  ????  Discussions between The Republic of Orange and Italia only recently resumed at the Consular Level in Paris prior to the 2nd Caldera Cup Races.

If you think this is cause for War well its usually one of the first things a nation does before declaring a war.  So yes its a sure sign that diplomatic relations are in a very very poor state.  And why cant a Country decide who can and cant use thier territorial waters ????  If a nation feels or know that another nation was a nation of Pirates and Criminal Corporations masquarding as a government why shouldnt they ban commerce with that nation.

This is not a support of the Dutch action just saying its a nations right to determine who they will allow into their territorial waters.  Its not a nice action but it is legal.  The International treaties call for the owning nation to regulate thier waters.  The Dutch regulated the New Swiss right out of them and have been doing so since the 1st or 2nd Pacific War.
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Desertfox

What does Dutch waters have to do with anything? Last I checked NS to China does not go through the DEI...
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Desertfox

Mid-December

The New Switzerland government calls on the two warring Chinese states to declare a general cease-fire and open their ports to aid ships, of which New Switzerland is willing to be part off. Also the Swiss government offers to host a peace conference with the intention of ending this dreadful war and sparring the civilian populations of both countries.
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damocles

Quote from: TexanCowboy on November 15, 2010, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: damocles on November 15, 2010, 08:20:56 PM
New Swiss ships are barred from Dutch and NOI patrolled waters under the 1919 Naval Law and are considered pirates. They KNOW this.

NvR.  

That's grounds for war for almost every civilized power. If the Dutch do it to the NS, what's to stop them from doing it to Gran Columbia. It's one thing if it was related to the war, but quite another if it's a law....seems like it's time to liberate some colonies....

Masirah.

damocles

Quote from: Desertfox on November 15, 2010, 10:57:20 PM
What does Dutch waters have to do with anything? Last I checked NS to China does not go through the DEI...

Oil and coal refueling from Dutch sources for  New Swiss shops are also banned under the naval law. Checked a Pacific resource map lately?