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Logi

OOC: Yes but I can prove this propaganda false.

hooper82

DATE: January 15, 1917
FROM: Indochinese Diplomatic Corps
TO: The World
SUBJECT: Response to RRC Propaganda

Indopendant Indochina wishes to point out a few facts to counter recent allegations made by the RRC Propaganda Core.

Firstly, at no time did Indochina invade another country.  We where invited in by the DKB and Siam.  Our troops have fraught defensive actions only, while RRC troops have invaded, killed, raped and pillaged.  Our ships have tried to protect sovereign land owned by the DKB, while RRC ships have landed an unlawful invasion force.
If the RRC had not invaded, there would be no fighting and no dead innocents.  RRC claim they invaded "...to bring about a swift conclusion to this already costly and unsightly war."  Yet, they did not try and defend Siam, who's sovereignty had been violated by the Dutch, instead they attacked it!  And they stormed into Nord Indokina to grab that land for themselves.

Secondly, Indochina was approached by RRC warmongers asking if Indochina wanted to join the RRC in an attack on Nord Indokina and Siam.  We can provide transcripts of conversations with RRC officials to independent observers.

Thirdly, RRC Objections that we could not have seen their atrocities are false.  Indochinese troops encounter the RRC Jungle rapists around Moc Chan and the lower Black River valley.  They swiftly drove back the RRC troops, who ran away looking for more vulnerable targets to pick on.  Such contact was made during the December 16-31 time frame.  It was at this time, when Indochinese Troops pushed back the RRC invasion that we found the atrocities.  There was no reason to go behind RRC lines.

Forthly, the RRC mentions their atrocities in Burma.  Their claims of innocence in Nord Indokina can be shown as false by anyone with even a cursory knowledge of their actions in Burma.  We have evidence, survivors, witnesses for Independent Observers to interview.  Much physical evidence was destroyed by the RRC troops as they ran, but some has been preserved and we are happy to escort Observers to view it first hand.

Again, we plead with the international community to aid the cause of the Siamese and Nord Indokinese.  Stop this slaughter and barbarism.

END MESSAGE

Quote from: Logi on September 23, 2009, 03:39:35 PM
OOC: I have a few objections to that story before I begin. War-field reporters (government approved) did not appear at this time. In this time period the reporters wrote the history usually after the war had been fought or never visited the site themselves.  

I find it baffling how you could possible slip behind my lines to make a report about something whether or not it exists.

January 14, 1917
From: The Republic
To: The World

We will begin this message be asserting that we have NOT committed such an atrocity in Indochina. Why would we, would pledged not harm the indigenous populations do such a thing? We ask you to consider the facts with their statement.

They say that they heard us make plans to invade Indochina. We made no plans, but for the sake of argument assume we did. How would they hear about it?

They say they collaborated with the Siamese and DKB government to prevent an advance and "marched their troops 12 hours a day." It is well known a proper soldier can make twenty miles in a full day of marching. By maps we should all have, the distance from their border to ours is a hundred miles. They could not have experienced resistance for they claimed that they collaborated with DKB and Siamese. That makes five days of marching under they reach our borders.

Now recall the dates at which movements were reported. Indochina reported its actions of movement at December 3. We declared war on December 10th. That is a week of time before our troops even left their houses. Then you see they had two days of movement left over. What did they do in this time?

Let us consider a scenario. They have two days before our invasion, the natives look well enough Chinese. They stage a village to be massacred and prepare to send a reporter to the scene. This occurs and the reporter reports that we have committed such an atrocious act. How convent when the Indochinese are fighting us! How funny that it was the government that approached the reporter, meaning the reporter had no intention of "getting the scoop" of such a shameful scene!

It is nothing new to the Republic that such attempts of sabotage have occurred. In fact our skirmish with Burma was based upon the plotting of some unknown third party. We have yet to discover who will try to instill such hatred between two nations. Now we find such a scene conveniently also in war. Perhaps we have found the third-party, which was right below our noses. How shameful that they not only force us to war and then betray us, but they also try to frame us! Luckily for us, and the whole world, the Indochinese have not covered up their trails well enough.

Our people feel for the victims of this cruel Indochinese propaganda attempt. But make no mistake, it only makes the rage in our people burn stronger. One shameful deed after another, it seems the Indochinese are willing to scoop to any level.

As the Indochinese have said, we are a democracy! Our people would never let such an act occur to fellow humans. We fight wars because we must, not because we wish to. What benefit is there to us to massacre a village? What usage would this serve? Why would we seek to create dissent in our own country and enrage the world? Why?

The answer is that we have not done such an act. We believe that even in war, fellow humans should be treated with respect. We send PoW's letters to their family whenever they write. We give them the rights of a first-class citizen. We know war is terrible and have no intention to make it any worse.
<_kr4m3r> so many fucking criminals, its bullshit
<foniks`> heh, if we sent all the criminals to some empty continent and just left them there to die
<foniks`> and showed up like 50yrs later like, "sup?"
<foniks`> whatd u think they'd say?
<FoSZoR[bg]> something along the lines of, "G`Day mate"

Logi

#17
Date: January 16, 1917
From: The Republic
To: The World

We never mentioned that you invaded another country. We find it funny that you would automatically say this in defense of something we never said. We said you "collaborated with the German and Siamese", we did not say you invade another country.

We must ask, how are we being unlawful in conducting a simple war? Are we suppose d to sit in our own lands and wait for harvest season in a war? You claim to have evidence that we approached you asking if you wanted to join the Republic in an attack on Nord Indokina and Siam. Prove it. You are lying through your teeth. And please do not in fear of discovery create false records. We urge you, stop your lying habits now, there will be no salvage for you if you insist of continuing to lie.

Any person may interview people from Burma and they will be show the lies of Indochina. Go ahead and look, we will not stop you. We do not, however, support the escort of Indochinese troops to an Republic border. These foreign observers may observe the area themselves, without the pressure of the Indochinese holding a gun behind their backs.

You call us barbarians and attempt to twist the truth of the world. We have not and will not participate in such a act. The truth is there to be found. Any NEUTRAL observer will be able to see the truth, and determine who is the one lying. The one with everything to gain from it, or the one that loses everything from such an act.

Who benefits here from such an atrocity? Think about that and you will find yourself at the first truth of this case.

Think, why would we commit such an act then try to deny it. Why not take the simpler route and not do it at all? The Indochinese call us a propaganda core, but who is accusing who? When have we created false news and when have we attacked Indochinese's troops or people? We are the Republic, we need not to lie, we need not to use propaganda. What is the point of twisting the truth to the world when it is obvious that we will win a prolonged conflict? There is simply no need to lie. Why do you think we have not created such "news" and simply countered Indochinese propaganda attempts? Are we so weak that we have to put that much effort to squashing a bug? When there is a river to quench a village's thirst, what use is it to have the largest lake in the world? We have no need to bring out a hammer to kill a small insect. We have no need to scoop to such lowly methods as propaganda.

OOC: Seriously that was a mistake on the mods part. I said if the Indochinese entered the war, I would enter the war to with a different message. Instead we got the default message.

The Rock Doctor

You said if Indochina issued a declaration of war, RRC would release a specific message. 

Indochina did not issue a declaration of war, hence the default message was issued.

Anyway, this exchange is interesting to read, though I'm sure the Colombian government could not care less about the supposed atrocities.

Logi

OOC: Figured, I would have gave the message anyways, but whatever. And I know the Colombians couldn't care less ;)

The Rock Doctor

Just makin' sure you know what happened.

Tanthalas

Well Rohan cares ^.^ we are even sending "investigators".  Although The Mark after so many fights with followers of the eye tends to belive the worst about the younger Civilations.
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Logi

Funny that you mention that. Independent Indochina is even younger than we are, by a good two ~ three years.

Walter

The Rohan instigators investigators are welcome to tag along with Kerberos and the Japanese instigators investigators. :D

hooper82

#24
December 21, 1916, Premier Galpouxs Office

Ambassador Khai: Premier Galpouxs, as you must no doubt know, we are engaged in a conflict with the RRC.  I have been tasked by President Sarraut to purchase Supplies and Ammunition for our troops.  Indochinese troops where trained by the French, and use French Weaponry.  So, the easiest source of munitions is from Mother France.  Would Glorious France be willing to trade for said munitions....and what would she like in return?

Premier Galpoux: As a neutral in this conflict, Glorious France can't sell munition. But there is a contract being put out for the disposal of 10,000 tons of older munition.  And what would Glorious France want in exchange. It's a rather pertinent question. But actualy, it's simple.

Ambassador Khai: How can Indochina be of assistance?

Premier Galpoux: France did contract out quite a few ships in the past, mainly to Bavaria, but with the new oil deal with Romania, France is lacking dedicated oiler capacity.

Ambassador Khai: Perhaps Indochina could be of assistance?  A new 6000 ton Oiler?  The Indochinese shipyards have been sitting empty for almost a year now.

Premier Galpoux: France needs at least 25 000 tons fuel load capacity.

Ambassador Khai: The Indochinese shipyards are up to the challange.  Do we have a deal Premier Galpoux?

Premier Galpoux: I think so

Ambassador Khai: Excellent, We would of cause want the delivery of the munitions post haste...

Premier Galpoux: Not munition, explosives for disposal

Ambassador Khai: Of cause, A slip of the tongue.  

Premier Galpoux: France is a neutral in the conflict, so, no munition deals

Ambassador Khai: Thank you for the your time Premier Galpoux.

Premier Galpoux: Its my pleasure.
<_kr4m3r> so many fucking criminals, its bullshit
<foniks`> heh, if we sent all the criminals to some empty continent and just left them there to die
<foniks`> and showed up like 50yrs later like, "sup?"
<foniks`> whatd u think they'd say?
<FoSZoR[bg]> something along the lines of, "G`Day mate"

The Rock Doctor

13 January 1917:  Saigon

Mid-morning, a troika of Colombian ships arrive.  Their hulls are painted white, and the standard tri-color funnel stripes are wider than usual.  Numerous national ensigns are flying.  As the captain of the Senora Juanita notes to the local pilot, "As gaudy as we are, how could anybody mistake us for belligerents?"

The ships - the tug Rigel and sloop San Christobal, in addition to the aforementioned packet - have arrived to take possession of the former Indochinese cruisers Conde and Montcalm, part of a batch of five old cruisers sold to the Colombians for scrap.  The packet's passengers - two passage crews of one hundred men - are advised that there will be no fun in the Indochinese capital. 

A few Indochinese reservists help familiarize the passage crews with the cruisers.  Meanwhile, the sloop's crew hurriedly repaints the hulls white and adorns their funnels with tri-color stripes.  A few others ensure that the now-empty barbettes and casemates are adequately sealed against water.

On 18 January, the five ships sortie, making a course for Pago Pago at ten knots. 

maddox

#26
December 27

Marseilles, 3 merchants are loading crates marked with warnings all over, "explosives, do not drop, do not shake" and so on.

In total 10 000 tons of such crates are loaded in those holds.

After the departure, these ships are escorted by CL DII Francine.