Byzantine Empire 1910-1917

[Kaiser Kirk]

Looking at the HY1, 1912 turn sheet,

Jefgte started the 1910 Artillery in 1910, in HY1 1912 he was at 5/6

Research started on the 15"/42, it looks like HY2, 1911.

The 14.01-16"/40.1-45  is the 1910 tech.
Until you finish the 1910 tech, you may not start gun research for it.

The 15/42 is under the 1910 tech, which is not done, so that gun can not be researched until 1913.
Research takes 4 HY, and so the gun can be used HY 1, 1915.


Gun Research :

Jefgte is paying a great deal extra for his gun research,  charging himself $6, instead of letting the spreadsheet calculate it.
Honest mistake, that would be the cost of Tech research, but this is gun research and cheaper.

Jefgte, you have your 76mm and the 381mm  in the wrong places.
The 381 should be where you have the 76mm spot.

if you type 381 below "Gun Bore >210.00" in cell C34, you will see the total cost is only $2,  not $6.   
You will have to copy the formula from C34 to C33, and E43 to E42 and E41

But

[Jefgte]

The International Expert Office "Kaiser & Snip" has expressed reservations about the realization in 1913 of the double turret of 381/42 and the laid down of the 29300t battleships of the Imperator class. Technology is not mature. Consequently, the Byzantine Admiralty decided to postpone the placing of these ships to 1915.

2 battleships were nevertheless planned in 1913.
Instead, 2 other 26000t battleships of the Ramses II class could be built with more modern lighter machinery and greater autonomy.

Justinien - Sélim I, Byzantine Empire - 1913 BB5- Ramses II class laid down 1913

Displacement:
   25 850 t light; 27 458 t standard; 29 782 t normal; 31 641 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (623,36 ft / 623,36 ft) x 100,00 ft x (26,71 / 28,11 ft)
   (190,00 m / 190,00 m) x 30,48 m  x (8,14 / 8,57 m)

Armament:
      6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 240,68lbs / 562,76kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Triple mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
      1 raised mount
      6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 240,68lbs / 562,76kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Triple mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
      8 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 212,74lbs / 96,50kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1913 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,27lbs / 14,64kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1913 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 16 977 lbs / 7 701 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   406,00 ft / 123,75 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Ends:   4,72" / 120 mm   196,00 ft / 59,74 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
     21,36 ft / 6,51 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5,50" / 140 mm   406,00 ft / 123,75 m   12,60 ft / 3,84 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1,07" / 27 mm   406,00 ft / 123,75 m   24,71 ft / 7,53 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 92,00 ft / 28,04 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   5,91" / 150 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   13,4" / 340 mm   5,91" / 150 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   3rd:   5,92" / 150 mm   3,95" / 100 mm      4,72" / 120 mm
   4th:   1,57" / 40 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 3,15" / 80 mm
   Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm  Quarter deck: 1,57" / 40 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 13,39" / 340 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 36 000 shp / 26 856 Kw = 21,16 kts
   Range 9 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4 184 tons (50% coal)

Complement:
   1 133 - 1 473

Cost:
   £2,835 million / $11,341 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 867 tons, 9,6 %
      - Guns: 2 867 tons, 9,6 %
   Armour: 9 488 tons, 31,9 %
      - Belts: 3 962 tons, 13,3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 397 tons, 1,3 %
      - Armament: 2 371 tons, 8,0 %
      - Armour Deck: 2 480 tons, 8,3 %
      - Conning Tower: 277 tons, 0,9 %
   Machinery: 1 478 tons, 5,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 11 251 tons, 37,8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 932 tons, 13,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 766 tons, 2,6 %
      - Hull below water: 154 tons
      - Hull above water: 180 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 120 tons
      - Above deck: 312 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     47 725 lbs / 21 648 Kg = 38,8 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 7,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,22
   Metacentric height 7,2 ft / 2,2 m
   Roll period: 15,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,64
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,36

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,632
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,23 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24,97 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18,00 %,  24,05 ft / 7,33 m,  20,65 ft / 6,29 m
      - Forward deck:   52,00 %,  20,65 ft / 6,29 m,  19,85 ft / 6,05 m
      - Aft deck:   13,00 %,  11,85 ft / 3,61 m,  11,85 ft / 3,61 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,00 %,  11,85 ft / 3,61 m,  11,85 ft / 3,61 m
      - Average freeboard:      18,05 ft / 5,50 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 68,8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145,8 %
   Waterplane Area: 46 708 Square feet or 4 339 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 203 lbs/sq ft or 989 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,52
      - Overall: 1,00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc weight:
24t for 4 sub TT x 21''  with 4 reloads.
130t for climat control
130t for additionnal pumps installation
50t for admiral staff
287t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
120t reserved

[Jefgte]

Byzantine need more (scout) cruisers
2x10000t with 3T2x254 -27kts is too heavy
2x3800t with 6x152+6x120-27kts is too light
cost 27.600 BP & $

I rework the old project of the "Heavy" Scout Cruiser with the reformed 234mm turrets of the Barbarossa class
=> 6840t with 2T2x234+8x152+6x102-27kts
Real cost 6.288 BP & $
x4 = 25.152 BP & $



Heavy Scout Cruiser, Byzantine Empire SC5 laid down 1913

Displacement:
   6 840 t light; 7 177 t standard; 7 918 t normal; 8 511 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (487,00 ft / 487,00 ft) x 65,00 ft x (17,51 / 18,49 ft)
   (148,44 m / 148,44 m) x 19,81 m  x (5,34 / 5,64 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9,20" / 234 mm 45,0 cal guns - 392,67lbs / 178,11kg shells, 110 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,93lbs / 49,41kg shells, 130 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1913 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,28lbs / 14,64kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      8 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 636 lbs / 1 196 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,55" / 90 mm   315,00 ft / 96,01 m   9,00 ft / 2,74 m
   Ends:   1,17" / 30 mm   172,00 ft / 52,43 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
   Upper:   3,55" / 90 mm   315,00 ft / 96,01 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5,92" / 150 mm   2,55" / 65 mm      4,72" / 120 mm
   2nd:   1,57" / 40 mm         -         1,57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,17" / 30 mm
   Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0,79" / 20 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3,95" / 100 mm, Aft 1,17" / 30 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 42 000 shp / 31 332 Kw = 27,05 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 335 tons (25% coal)

Complement:
   419 - 545

Cost:
   £0,734 million / $2,936 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 533 tons, 6,7 %
      - Guns: 533 tons, 6,7 %
   Armour: 1 579 tons, 19,9 %
      - Belts: 865 tons, 10,9 %
      - Armament: 241 tons, 3,0 %
      - Armour Deck: 429 tons, 5,4 %
      - Conning Towers: 44 tons, 0,6 %
   Machinery: 1 684 tons, 21,3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 821 tons, 35,6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 078 tons, 13,6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 222 tons, 2,8 %
      - Hull above water: 30 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 125 tons
      - Above deck: 67 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9 870 lbs / 4 477 Kg = 25,4 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 1,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18
   Metacentric height 3,6 ft / 1,1 m
   Roll period: 14,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,39
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,509
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,49 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,07 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  20,20 ft / 6,16 m,  17,20 ft / 5,24 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  17,20 ft / 5,24 m,  14,20 ft / 4,33 m
      - Aft deck:   32,50 %,  14,20 ft / 4,33 m,  14,20 ft / 4,33 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,50 %,  14,20 ft / 4,33 m,  14,20 ft / 4,33 m
      - Average freeboard:      15,49 ft / 4,72 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93,0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 143,1 %
   Waterplane Area: 21 091 Square feet or 1 959 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 513 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,39
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

36t for 4 TT x 18'' + 4 reloads
51t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
30t for additionnal pumps
30t for additionnal ventilation
50t reserved for troops, materials, mines...

[Kaiser Kirk]

2 battleships were nevertheless planned in 1913.
Instead, 2 other 26000t battleships of the Ramses II class could be built with more modern lighter machinery and greater autonomy.

Justinien - Sélim I, Byzantine Empire - 1913 BB5- Ramses II class laid down 1913

Displacement:
   25 850 t light; 27 458 t standard; 29 782 t normal; 31 641 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (623,36 ft / 623,36 ft) x 100,00 ft x (26,71 / 28,11 ft)
   (190,00 m / 190,00 m) x 30,48 m  x (8,14 / 8,57 m)

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1,07" / 27 mm   406,00 ft / 123,75 m   24,71 ft / 7,53 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 92,00 ft / 28,04 m


Misc weight:
24t for 4 sub TT x 21''  with 4 reloads.

Practical considerations.
27mm armored bulkhead - compared to the historical range, on the lower end of the range.
1.24m wide TDS - As a engineering matter, your Naval Design staff will say this should be doubled, or more.

Information:
Underwater tubes : after about 20knots, not practical to use.  The ship can slow from 21knts to 20knts easily enough, so workable here.

[Jefgte]

...27mm armored bulkhead - compared to the historical range, on the lower end of the range...

That's a bullet
40mm is the curent TDS for Byzantine BBs

1,07" => 1,57"
----------------------
This 25850t class is too heavy. a lighter class 20 000t must be certainly built.

Byzantine need more Expansion/air points...

[Kaiser Kirk]

Byzantine need more Expansion/air points...

You haven't posted your 1912 HY2 report, so there's time for you to build some.

[Jefgte]

Maximum 27kts -125m in 1915
Could be repaired in 125m colonial shipyards (Diego Suarez & Port Darwin)

SC4785t, Byzantine Empire Scout cruiser laid down 1915

Displacement:
   4 785 t light; 5 033 t standard; 5 567 t normal; 5 994 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (409,00 ft / 409,00 ft) x 57,00 ft x (19,00 / 20,01 ft)
   (124,66 m / 124,66 m) x 17,37 m  x (5,79 / 6,10 m)

Armament:
      4 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 212,74lbs / 96,50kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1915 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1915 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,27lbs / 14,64kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1915 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1915 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1 763 lbs / 800 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,55" / 90 mm   298,00 ft / 90,83 m   9,00 ft / 2,74 m
   Ends:   1,17" / 30 mm   111,00 ft / 33,83 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
   Upper:   1,17" / 30 mm   298,00 ft / 90,83 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 112 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5,50" / 140 mm   1,38" / 35 mm      3,95" / 100 mm
   2nd:   1,57" / 40 mm         -         1,57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   1,17" / 30 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0,97" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0,97" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3,95" / 100 mm, Aft 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 36 000 shp / 26 856 Kw = 27,17 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 961 tons (20% coal)

Complement:
   321 - 418

Cost:
   £0,706 million / $2,824 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 335 tons, 6,0 %
      - Guns: 335 tons, 6,0 %
   Armour: 1 155 tons, 20,8 %
      - Belts: 548 tons, 9,8 %
      - Armament: 167 tons, 3,0 %
      - Armour Deck: 400 tons, 7,2 %
      - Conning Towers: 40 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 1 389 tons, 24,9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 731 tons, 31,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 782 tons, 14,0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 174 tons, 3,1 %
      - Hull below water: 25 tons
      - Hull above water: 25 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 64 tons
      - Above deck: 60 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5 388 lbs / 2 444 Kg = 25,5 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,17
   Metacentric height 2,9 ft / 0,9 m
   Roll period: 14,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,43
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,440 / 0,450
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,18 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,22 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  20,00 ft / 6,10 m,  16,50 ft / 5,03 m
      - Forward deck:   32,50 %,  16,50 ft / 5,03 m,  14,50 ft / 4,42 m
      - Aft deck:   32,50 %,  14,50 ft / 4,42 m,  14,50 ft / 4,42 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,50 %,  14,50 ft / 4,42 m,  14,50 ft / 4,42 m
      - Average freeboard:      15,42 ft / 4,70 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103,3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 131,3 %
   Waterplane Area: 14 752 Square feet or 1 370 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 85 lbs/sq ft or 413 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,82
      - Longitudinal: 1,88
      - Overall: 0,90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

24t for 4 TT x 21'' + 4 reloads
35t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
25t for additionnal pumps
25t for additionnal ventilation
40t reserved

[Jefgte]

Many navies have chosen to increase the firepower of Squadron Destroyers. the Byzantines, wishing a long range destroyer, took up the armament of the 1910 TGBM 1000 on a flush deck hull.

TGB1000, Byzantine Empire TGB laid down 1913

Displacement:
   1 000 t light; 1 043 t standard; 1 160 t normal; 1 254 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (349,38 ft / 347,77 ft) x 35,43 ft x (8,38 / 8,82 ft)
   (106,49 m / 106,00 m) x 10,80 m  x (2,56 / 2,69 m)

Armament:
      4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,03lbs / 24,05kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      1 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal gun - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 200 per gun
     Anti-air gun in deck mount, 1913 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck aft
      2 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 45,0 cal guns - 0,01lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      Weight of broadside 226 lbs / 102 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 19 600 shp / 14 622 Kw = 29,71 kts
   Range 5 500nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 211 tons

Complement:
   99 - 129

Cost:
   £0,137 million / $0,549 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 40 tons, 3,4 %
      - Guns: 40 tons, 3,4 %
   Armour: 6 tons, 0,6 %
      - Armament: 6 tons, 0,6 %
   Machinery: 572 tons, 49,3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 324 tons, 28,0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 160 tons, 13,8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 58 tons, 5,0 %
      - On freeboard deck: 54 tons
      - Above deck: 4 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     407 lbs / 184 Kg = 7,7 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,28
   Metacentric height 1,7 ft / 0,5 m
   Roll period: 11,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,21
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,393 / 0,404
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,81 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18,65 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   22,00 %,  18,37 ft / 5,60 m,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m
      - Forward deck:   20,00 %,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m,  12,47 ft / 3,80 m
      - Aft deck:   38,00 %,  12,47 ft / 3,80 m,  10,50 ft / 3,20 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  10,50 ft / 3,20 m,  11,15 ft / 3,40 m
      - Average freeboard:      12,89 ft / 3,93 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 168,8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 178,3 %
   Waterplane Area: 7 549 Square feet or 701 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 68 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 29 lbs/sq ft or 142 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 1,04
      - Overall: 0,54
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

18t for 6TT x 450
4t for top mast rangefinder
6t for additionnal engines ventillation
30t reserved for materials, troops or minen
0t short range radio

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Byzantine need more (scout) cruisers
2x10000t with 3T2x254 -27kts is too heavy
2x3800t with 6x152+6x120-27kts is too light
cost 27.600 BP & $

I rework the old project of the "Heavy" Scout Cruiser with the reformed 234mm turrets of the Barbarossa class
=> 6840t with 2T2x234+8x152+6x102-27kts
Real cost 6.288 BP & $
x4 cruisers = 25.152 BP & $

This heavy scout cruiser is not a good choice, old T2x234 could be used on colonial cruisers.
Finaly, the last 6000t SC4 class is update with the classic Byzantine 6x191 + 6x120 vs destroyers, better armor, 27kts to screen battleships & long range.

More economical: 21.260$ & BP for 4 cruisers.

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SC5, Byzantine Empire SC5 laid down 1913

Displacement:
   5 315 t light; 5 576 t standard; 6 160 t normal; 6 627 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (499,00 ft / 498,00 ft) x 54,00 ft x (15,13 / 16,01 ft)
   (152,10 m / 151,79 m) x 16,46 m  x (4,61 / 4,88 m)

Armament:
      4 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 212,74lbs / 96,50kg shells, 140 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      2 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 212,74lbs / 96,50kg shells, 140 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      6 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,03lbs / 24,05kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 200 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
      2 raised mounts
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1 622 lbs / 736 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,55" / 90 mm   340,00 ft / 103,63 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Ends:   1,38" / 35 mm   158,00 ft / 48,16 m   9,00 ft / 2,74 m
     Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2,75" / 70 mm   0,78" / 20 mm      2,15" / 55 mm
   2nd:   2,75" / 70 mm   0,78" / 20 mm      2,15" / 55 mm
   3rd:   0,78" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
   Forecastle: 0,97" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0,97" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3,55" / 90 mm, Aft 2,75" / 70 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 36 000 shp / 26 856 Kw = 27,21 kts
   Range 6 500nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 051 tons (15% coal)

Complement:
   346 - 451

Cost:
   £0,570 million / $2,281 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 395 tons, 6,4 %
      - Guns: 395 tons, 6,4 %
   Armour: 1 119 tons, 18,2 %
      - Belts: 568 tons, 9,2 %
      - Armament: 76 tons, 1,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 429 tons, 7,0 %
      - Conning Towers: 46 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 1 430 tons, 23,2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 143 tons, 34,8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 845 tons, 13,7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 228 tons, 3,7 %
      - Hull above water: 30 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 134 tons
      - Above deck: 64 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7 185 lbs / 3 259 Kg = 34,1 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
   Metacentric height 2,4 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 14,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,65
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,14

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,530 / 0,539
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9,22 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,32 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,00 ft / 0,30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   25,00 %,  20,90 ft / 6,37 m,  17,90 ft / 5,46 m
      - Forward deck:   25,00 %,  17,90 ft / 5,46 m,  14,90 ft / 4,54 m
      - Aft deck:   25,00 %,  14,90 ft / 4,54 m,  14,90 ft / 4,54 m
      - Quarter deck:   25,00 %,  14,90 ft / 4,54 m,  14,90 ft / 4,54 m
      - Average freeboard:      16,33 ft / 4,98 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 97,1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 158,7 %
   Waterplane Area: 18 420 Square feet or 1 711 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 86 lbs/sq ft or 421 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,90
      - Longitudinal: 1,16
      - Overall: 0,92
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

25t for Long Range Marconi
39t for top mast rangefinder
30t for climatisation
30t for additionnal pumps
24t for 8TTx18"
80t for 2x40 minen

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Nearly the same cruiser... built in a 125m colonial shipyards ...

SC5, Byzantine Empire Scout cruiser laid down 1913

Displacement:
   4 660 t light; 4 900 t standard; 5 424 t normal; 5 843 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (409,00 ft / 409,00 ft) x 52,00 ft x (18,41 / 19,45 ft)
   (124,66 m / 124,66 m) x 15,85 m  x (5,61 / 5,93 m)

Armament:
      2 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 212,74lbs / 96,50kg shells, 140 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 212,74lbs / 96,50kg shells, 140 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      6 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,03lbs / 24,05kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1 595 lbs / 723 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,55" / 90 mm   298,00 ft / 90,83 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Ends:   1,17" / 30 mm   111,00 ft / 33,83 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 112 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2,75" / 70 mm   0,78" / 20 mm      2,15" / 55 mm
   2nd:   2,75" / 70 mm   0,78" / 20 mm      2,15" / 55 mm
   3rd:   1,17" / 30 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0,97" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0,97" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3,95" / 100 mm, Aft 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 35 130 shp / 26 207 Kw = 27,05 kts
   Range 6 500nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 943 tons (15% coal)

Complement:
   315 - 410

Cost:
   £0,539 million / $2,154 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 390 tons, 7,2 %
      - Guns: 390 tons, 7,2 %
   Armour: 973 tons, 17,9 %
      - Belts: 474 tons, 8,7 %
      - Armament: 81 tons, 1,5 %
      - Armour Deck: 379 tons, 7,0 %
      - Conning Towers: 39 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 1 396 tons, 25,7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 724 tons, 31,8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 764 tons, 14,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 178 tons, 3,3 %
      - Hull below water: 25 tons
      - Hull above water: 25 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 64 tons
      - Above deck: 64 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5 024 lbs / 2 279 Kg = 23,8 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,09
   Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 14,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,60
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,485 / 0,494
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,87 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,22 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  22,00 ft / 6,71 m,  18,00 ft / 5,49 m
      - Forward deck:   32,50 %,  18,00 ft / 5,49 m,  14,50 ft / 4,42 m
      - Aft deck:   32,50 %,  14,50 ft / 4,42 m,  14,25 ft / 4,34 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,50 %,  14,25 ft / 4,34 m,  14,25 ft / 4,34 m
      - Average freeboard:      15,88 ft / 4,84 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108,0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 129,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 13 980 Square feet or 1 299 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 87 lbs/sq ft or 426 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,90
      - Longitudinal: 1,95
      - Overall: 0,97
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

24t for 8 TT x 18''
39t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
25t for additionnal pumps
25t for additionnal ventilation
40t reserved

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Possible Colonial economical cruiser for patrols, escorts, vs raider attacks...
552t from Barbarossa 2T2x234 => real cost 4 BP & $

Colonial Cruiser, Byzantine Empire AC8 laid down 1915

Displacement:
   4 552 t light; 4 889 t standard; 5 348 t normal; 5 715 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (409,00 ft / 409,00 ft) x 64,00 ft x (13,62 / 14,34 ft)
   (124,66 m / 124,66 m) x 19,51 m  x (4,15 / 4,37 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9,20" / 234 mm 45,0 cal guns - 392,66lbs / 178,11kg shells, 130 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1895 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      10 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1915 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,27lbs / 14,64kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1915 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1915 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 2 918 lbs / 1 324 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,55" / 90 mm   260,00 ft / 79,25 m   7,00 ft / 2,13 m
   Ends:   1,17" / 30 mm   149,00 ft / 45,42 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
   Upper:   3,55" / 90 mm   260,00 ft / 79,25 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5,92" / 150 mm   2,55" / 65 mm      4,72" / 120 mm
   2nd:   1,57" / 40 mm         -         1,57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,17" / 30 mm
   Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0,79" / 20 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3,95" / 100 mm, Aft 1,17" / 30 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 15 000 shp / 11 190 Kw = 21,58 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 827 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   312 - 406

Cost:
   £0,665 million / $2,659 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 559 tons, 10,4 %
      - Guns: 559 tons, 10,4 %
   Armour: 1 280 tons, 23,9 %
      - Belts: 655 tons, 12,3 %
      - Armament: 226 tons, 4,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 365 tons, 6,8 %
      - Conning Towers: 34 tons, 0,6 %
   Machinery: 619 tons, 11,6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 883 tons, 35,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 796 tons, 14,9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 211 tons, 3,9 %
      - Hull above water: 30 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 100 tons
      - Above deck: 81 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     7 781 lbs / 3 529 Kg = 20,0 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 1,9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,25
   Metacentric height 3,8 ft / 1,2 m
   Roll period: 13,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,43
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,14

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,525 / 0,533
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,39 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,22 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  18,00 ft / 5,49 m,  15,00 ft / 4,57 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  15,00 ft / 4,57 m,  12,00 ft / 3,66 m
      - Aft deck:   35,00 %,  12,00 ft / 3,66 m,  12,00 ft / 3,66 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,50 %,  12,00 ft / 3,66 m,  12,00 ft / 3,66 m
      - Average freeboard:      13,19 ft / 4,02 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 76,2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 138,3 %
   Waterplane Area: 17 846 Square feet or 1 658 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 95 lbs/sq ft or 462 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,86
      - Longitudinal: 1,33
      - Overall: 0,90
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

24t for 4 TT x 18'' + 4 reloads
56t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
23t for additionnal pumps
23t for additionnal ventilation
60t reserved for troops, materials, mines...

552t from Barbarossa 2T2x234 => real cost 4 BP & $

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These 8 free 234 mm turrets of the Barbarossa class come back like a sea snake ...
They will be useful on colonial cruisers ("Always more cruisers ...")

Real cost : 4.9 BP & $

CC5452t, Byzantine Empire Colonial Cruiser laid down 1914

Displacement:
   5 452 t light; 5 813 t standard; 6 429 t normal; 6 921 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (409,00 ft / 409,00 ft) x 68,00 ft x (16,18 / 17,11 ft)
   (124,66 m / 124,66 m) x 20,73 m  x (4,93 / 5,21 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9,20" / 234 mm 45,0 cal guns - 392,66lbs / 178,11kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,92lbs / 49,41kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1914 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,27lbs / 14,64kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1914 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1914 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 raised mounts
      4 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1914 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 381 lbs / 1 080 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,55" / 90 mm   266,00 ft / 81,08 m   9,00 ft / 2,74 m
   Ends:   1,17" / 30 mm   143,00 ft / 43,59 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
   Upper:   3,55" / 90 mm   266,00 ft / 81,08 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5,92" / 150 mm   2,55" / 65 mm      4,72" / 120 mm
   2nd:   1,57" / 40 mm         -         1,57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   1,17" / 30 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 0,97" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0,97" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3,95" / 100 mm, Aft 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 25 000 shp / 18 650 Kw = 23,92 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 107 tons (20% coal)

Complement:
   358 - 466

Cost:
   £0,654 million / $2,615 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 476 tons, 7,4 %
      - Guns: 476 tons, 7,4 %
   Armour: 1 530 tons, 23,8 %
      - Belts: 750 tons, 11,7 %
      - Armament: 233 tons, 3,6 %
      - Armour Deck: 503 tons, 7,8 %
      - Conning Towers: 44 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 981 tons, 15,3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 286 tons, 35,6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 976 tons, 15,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 179 tons, 2,8 %
      - Hull below water: 26 tons
      - Hull above water: 26 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 50 tons
      - Above deck: 77 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9 775 lbs / 4 434 Kg = 25,1 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 2,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,27
   Metacentric height 4,3 ft / 1,3 m
   Roll period: 13,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,32
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,509
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,01 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,22 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  19,30 ft / 5,88 m,  16,30 ft / 4,97 m
      - Forward deck:   32,50 %,  16,30 ft / 4,97 m,  14,30 ft / 4,36 m
      - Aft deck:   32,50 %,  14,30 ft / 4,36 m,  14,30 ft / 4,36 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,50 %,  14,30 ft / 4,36 m,  14,30 ft / 4,36 m
      - Average freeboard:      15,19 ft / 4,63 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 78,9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145,9 %
   Waterplane Area: 18 530 Square feet or 1 722 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 118 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 101 lbs/sq ft or 495 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,90
      - Longitudinal: 1,78
      - Overall: 0,96
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

24t for 4 TT x 21'' + 4 reloads
35t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
26t for additionnal pumps
26t for additionnal ventilation
50t reserved

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Byzantine Empire - 1913 Improved BB5- Ramses II class laid down 1913

Justinien - Sélim I

Displacement:
   25 850 t light; 27 491 t standard; 29 816 t normal; 31 677 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (623,36 ft / 623,36 ft) x 100,00 ft x (26,74 / 28,14 ft)
   (190,00 m / 190,00 m) x 30,48 m  x (8,15 / 8,58 m)

Armament:
      12 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 240,67lbs / 562,76kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1913 Model
     4 x Triple mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      1 raised mount fore
      8 - 7,50" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 212,74lbs / 96,50kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1913 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,03lbs / 24,05kg shells, 180 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1913 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      8 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 200 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      8 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts - superfiring
      Weight of broadside 17 335 lbs / 7 863 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   406,00 ft / 123,75 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
   Ends:   4,72" / 120 mm   196,00 ft / 59,74 m   10,00 ft / 3,05 m
     21,36 ft / 6,51 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5,50" / 140 mm   406,00 ft / 123,75 m   12,60 ft / 3,84 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1,50" / 38 mm   406,00 ft / 123,75 m   24,76 ft / 7,55 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 92,00 ft / 28,04 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   5,91" / 150 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   5,92" / 150 mm   3,95" / 100 mm      4,72" / 120 mm
   3rd:   1,77" / 45 mm   1,57" / 40 mm      1,57" / 40 mm
   4th:   0,77" / 20 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 3,15" / 80 mm
   Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm  Quarter deck: 1,57" / 40 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 13,39" / 340 mm, Aft 9,85" / 250 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 35 100 shp / 26 184 Kw = 21,01 kts
   Range 9 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4 186 tons (50% coal)

Complement:
   1 133 - 1 474

Cost:
   £2,882 million / $11,527 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 000 tons, 10,1 %
      - Guns: 3 000 tons, 10,1 %
   Armour: 9 975 tons, 33,5 %
      - Belts: 3 962 tons, 13,3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 558 tons, 1,9 %
      - Armament: 2 493 tons, 8,4 %
      - Armour Deck: 2 480 tons, 8,3 %
      - Conning Towers: 481 tons, 1,6 %
   Machinery: 1 441 tons, 4,8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10 665 tons, 35,8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 967 tons, 13,3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 769 tons, 2,6 %
      - Hull below water: 154 tons
      - Hull above water: 170 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 120 tons
      - Above deck: 325 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     45 981 lbs / 20 857 Kg = 37,4 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 7,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18
   Metacentric height 6,8 ft / 2,1 m
   Roll period: 16,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,32

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,632
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,23 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24,97 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 53
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18,00 %,  24,05 ft / 7,33 m,  20,65 ft / 6,29 m
      - Forward deck:   52,00 %,  20,65 ft / 6,29 m,  19,85 ft / 6,05 m
      - Aft deck:   13,00 %,  11,85 ft / 3,61 m,  11,85 ft / 3,61 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,00 %,  11,85 ft / 3,61 m,  11,85 ft / 3,61 m
      - Average freeboard:      18,05 ft / 5,50 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69,7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 145,8 %
   Waterplane Area: 46 708 Square feet or 4 339 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 194 lbs/sq ft or 948 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,39
      - Overall: 1,00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc weight:
24t for 4 sub TT x 21''  with 4 reloads.
130t for climat control
130t for additionnal pumps installation
50t for admiral staff
300t for top 1913 Fire Control
25t for Marconi
110t reserved

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To reinforce the fleet, in 1914, 4 x 6950t Armored Cruisers (Harad class) took over the 234mm turrets of the Barbarossa class battleships.
These economical cruisers are assigned to reinforce the 5th & 6th battle divisions formed for the colonies.

Armored Cruiser, Byzantine Empire AC8 laid down 1914

Displacement:
   6 950 t light; 7 283 t standard; 7 849 t normal; 8 301 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (498,00 ft / 498,00 ft) x 62,25 ft x (17,69 / 18,45 ft)
   (151,79 m / 151,79 m) x 18,97 m  x (5,39 / 5,62 m)

Armament:
      4 - 9,20" / 234 mm 45,0 cal guns - 392,67lbs / 178,11kg shells, 108 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      10 - 6,00" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 108,93lbs / 49,41kg shells, 130 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1914 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 180 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1914 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      8 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1914 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 687 lbs / 1 219 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4,72" / 120 mm   316,00 ft / 96,32 m   9,00 ft / 2,74 m
   Ends:   1,17" / 30 mm   182,00 ft / 55,47 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
   Upper:   3,55" / 90 mm   316,00 ft / 96,32 m   8,00 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5,92" / 150 mm   2,55" / 65 mm      4,72" / 120 mm
   2nd:   1,57" / 40 mm         -         1,57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
   Forecastle: 0,97" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 0,97" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3,95" / 100 mm, Aft 1,17" / 30 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 40 680 shp / 30 347 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 5 500nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 018 tons (25% coal)

Complement:
   416 - 542

Cost:
   £0,850 million / $3,399 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 541 tons, 6,9 %
      - Guns: 541 tons, 6,9 %
   Armour: 1 795 tons, 22,9 %
      - Belts: 1 009 tons, 12,8 %
      - Armament: 241 tons, 3,1 %
      - Armour Deck: 502 tons, 6,4 %
      - Conning Towers: 44 tons, 0,6 %
   Machinery: 1 603 tons, 20,4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 747 tons, 35,0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 899 tons, 11,5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 263 tons, 3,4 %
      - Hull above water: 34 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 150 tons
      - Above deck: 79 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9 700 lbs / 4 400 Kg = 24,9 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 1,6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15
   Metacentric height 3,2 ft / 1,0 m
   Roll period: 14,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,45
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,05

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,501 / 0,508
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,32 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 67
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  20,20 ft / 6,16 m,  17,00 ft / 5,18 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  17,00 ft / 5,18 m,  14,00 ft / 4,27 m
      - Aft deck:   35,00 %,  14,00 ft / 4,27 m,  14,00 ft / 4,27 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,50 %,  14,00 ft / 4,27 m,  14,00 ft / 4,27 m
      - Average freeboard:      15,20 ft / 4,63 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90,8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 139,1 %
   Waterplane Area: 20 674 Square feet or 1 921 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 103 lbs/sq ft or 503 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,31
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform


54t for1913 FC
25t for Marconi
36t for 12TT x 21"
34t for additionnal ventilation
34t for additionnal pumps
80t reserved for troops, materials, mines...

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To replace obsolete 21kts torpedo boats from 1890 (T140) & 1900, (T125).

=> 333t with 2x76.2 + 4TTx21 "- 27kts & 3000nm range ...
to do "flea jumps" from colonies to colonies.   :)

TB3, Byzantine Empire T333 laid down 1915

Displacement:
   333 t light; 343 t standard; 372 t normal; 396 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (209,97 ft / 209,97 ft) x 20,34 ft x (7,63 / 7,94 ft)
   (64,00 m / 64,00 m) x 6,20 m  x (2,33 / 2,42 m)

Armament:
      2 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal guns - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 169 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1915 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      1 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 45,0 cal gun - 3,20lbs / 1,45kg shells, 220 per gun
     Breech loading gun in deck mount, 1915 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck forward
      1 raised mount
      2 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,01lbs / 0,00kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1915 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 30 lbs / 14 kg


Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 460 shp / 6 311 Kw = 27,10 kts
   Range 3 000nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 53 tons

Complement:
   42 - 55

Cost:
   £0,057 million / $0,229 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 6 tons, 1,6 %
      - Guns: 6 tons, 1,6 %
   Armour: 4 tons, 1,0 %
      - Armament: 4 tons, 1,0 %
   Machinery: 186 tons, 50,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 107 tons, 28,7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 39 tons, 10,6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 8,1 %
      - On freeboard deck: 20 tons
      - Above deck: 10 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     114 lbs / 52 Kg = 8,5 x 3,0 " / 76 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,04
   Metacentric height 0,5 ft / 0,2 m
   Roll period: 12,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,19
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,408
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,32 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 14,49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20,00 %,  13,45 ft / 4,10 m,  10,99 ft / 3,35 m
      - Forward deck:   30,00 %,  10,99 ft / 3,35 m,  8,69 ft / 2,65 m
      - Aft deck:   30,00 %,  8,69 ft / 2,65 m,  8,04 ft / 2,45 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  8,04 ft / 2,45 m,  8,69 ft / 2,65 m
      - Average freeboard:      9,53 ft / 2,91 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 166,0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 97,0 %
   Waterplane Area: 2 629 Square feet or 244 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 54 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 96 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 2,52
      - Overall: 0,59
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

12 tons for 4TTx21"
10 tons for short Marconi
8 tons reserved

Trial speed: 30.5kts
Bonus: 3.49