So, in a blatant effort to earn more brownie-points for the bi-annual goodie sweeps - and because I'm kinda bored without much construction of my own at the moment - I'd like to make y'all an offer.

Pick a ship under construction in your dockyards, and I'll put together a drawing of it. First come, first served, no further negotiations.

Edited to add: Status Update -

1. Maddox: COMPLETE
2. MikeTR: COMPLETE
3. Nobody: COMPLETE
4. TexanCowboy: IN PROGRESS
5: CTWaterman: WAITING

I'm sending you a special one.

For either one of these designs.

Armored Cruiser
http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=673.msg48000#msg48000

or Destroyer (the 1,000 ton design)
http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=2298.msg50092#msg50092

Mike

I would be sending you some requests, if I wasn't in the same boat as you. Plenty of time on my hands but limited internet access...

Current Project List

1. Maddox: ONGOING (Revision D)
2. MikeTR: WAITING
3. Nobody: WAITING
4. TexanCowboy: WAITING
5: empty

Well if you really feel like it I could use a Drawing of the Italian V Class Armored Cruisers...

http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=1368.msg30958#msg30958

Charles

The prelim drawings on the Eclair Class escort cruiser are looking promising.

Keep up the good work Valles.

Updated to reflect my roughing out Mike's CA.

Armored Cruiser Eclair: Complete!

Now I have to develop those tripple 140mm turrets...

Great job.  She's a real Nverse French Queen of the 7 Seas.

I like the concept with  much turrets.

A nice super cruiser - Certainly interresting to 1/700WL scratch.  ;)


Jef  ;)

21 guns ... ooooh! aaaaah!

The SS file for Eclair.

QuoteEclair, French Light cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   14.000 t light; 14.553 t standard; 16.794 t normal; 18.587 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   692,26 ft / 688,98 ft x 65,62 ft x 26,25 ft (normal load)
   211,00 m / 210,00 m x 20,00 m  x 8,00 m

Armament:
      21 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns (7x3 guns), 92,59lbs / 42,00kg shells, 1919 Model
     Quick firing guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread, 3 raised mounts
      4 - 1,46" / 37,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,55lbs / 0,70kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on centreline, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 1.951 lbs / 885 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,00" / 76 mm   499,51 ft / 152,25 m   17,00 ft / 5,18 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 112% of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4,00" / 102 mm   2,00" / 51 mm      3,25" / 83 mm
   2nd:   0,50" / 13 mm   0,50" / 13 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 1,50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 4,00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 138.346 shp / 103.206 Kw = 34,00 kts
   Range 9.000nm at 16,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4.034 tons

Complement:
   736 - 958

Cost:
   £3,022 million / $12,089 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 221 tons, 1,3%
   Armour: 2.464 tons, 14,7%
      - Belts: 1.039 tons, 6,2%
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0%
      - Armament: 535 tons, 3,2%
      - Armour Deck: 832 tons, 5,0%
      - Conning Tower: 57 tons, 0,3%
   Machinery: 5.071 tons, 30,2%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5.894 tons, 35,1%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.794 tons, 16,6%
   Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 2,1%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     15.686 lbs / 7.115 Kg = 187,4 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 1,6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12
   Metacentric height 3,3 ft / 1,0 m
   Roll period: 15,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,46
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0,495
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,25 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      29,53 ft / 9,00 m
      - Forecastle (16%):   22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Mid (50%):      22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (12%):   18,04 ft / 5,50 m (22,97 ft / 7,00 m before break)
      - Stern:      18,04 ft / 5,50 m
      - Average freeboard:   22,78 ft / 6,94 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 111,0%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 178,3%
   Waterplane Area: 29.995 Square feet or 2.787 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 114 lbs/sq ft or 557 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,39
      - Overall: 1,00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

250 tons fire control
25 tons ERADe
25 tons long range marconi
50 tons crew comfort

Looks like a tasty treat.

Hey, Rocky, do you still have the springstyle folder for the 3x5 6'' gunned ship at WW?