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Started by The Rock Doctor, June 25, 2008, 12:50:42 PM

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Sachmle

Well while I don't know much about Iberian's I would presume that the fellows in Officer's uniforms would be the Austrian's, if they're anything like RL Austrian's around 1912.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

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P3D

Suggestion. Perhaps the threads on combat reports could go into the relevant subforum.
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miketr

Borys thought people might find this interesting to share.

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Vize-Admiral Srnicek Allied and KuK Commander in Chief

KuK Battle Squadron, Kommodor Johann Schlachiteger
Juan de Austria & Tegetthoff 1911, 24,500 tons, 4x2 13.5", 12x1 6", 12x1 3", 4 TT, 22 knots
SMS Siligia 1912, 31,000 tons, 7x2 12", 18x1 6", 8x1 3", 4 TT, 23 knots


--1st Battle Division Contraalmirante Patricio Montojo
---Pelayo......Pelayo...........1897..13,000........280mm(2x2), 250mm(6x1), 165mm(8x1), 105mm(16x1), 75mm(8x1), 0 TT...VTE 18 knots
---Pelayo......Cid Campeador....1897..13,000........280mm(2x2), 250mm(6x1), 165mm(8x1), 105mm(16x1), 75mm(8x1), 0 TT...VTE 18 knots
--2nd Battle Division Contraalmirante Jose Valdés
---Alfonso IV..Alfonso VI.......1899..13,000........280mm(2x2), 250mm(4x2), 105mm(16x1), 75mm(16x1), 0 TT..............VTE 18 knots
---Alfonso IV..Navas de Tolosa..1899..13,000........280mm(2x2), 250mm(4x2), 105mm(16x1), 75mm(16x1), 0 TT..............VTE 18 knots
---Pilipinas...Pilipinas........1904..11,500........305mm(2x2 & 4x1), 105mm(20x1), 50mm(4x1), 2 TT.....................VTE 17.5 knots


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Small Cruisers 2nd Division, Fregatenkapitaen Horthy Miklos
SMS Ulan & SMS Jaeger 1903, 2600 tons, 7x1 3.9", 4x1 1.5", 4 TT, 26.5 knots
SMS Graenzer & SMS Hussar 1903, 2800 tons, 7x1 3.9", 4x1 1.5", 4 TT, 26.5 knots

TB's
Fregatenkapitaen Georg Ludwig von Trapp TB's Commander

1st GTB Squadron (11 boats)
H-6 Class, 1909, 450 tons, 3x1 3", 2x1 1.9", 4 TT, 28 knots
2nd GTB Squadron (11 boats)
H-6 Class, 1909, 450 tons, 3x1 3", 2x1 1.9", 4 TT, 28 knots
3rd GTB Squadron (5 boats)
H-1 Class, 1907, 470 tons, 3x1 3", 3 TT, 28 knots
4th TB Squadron (12 Boats)
K Class, 1911, 300 tons, 2x1 3", 4x1 0.4", 2 TT, 27.75 knots
5th TB Squadron (12 Boats)
K Class, 1911, 300 tons, 2x1 3", 4x1 0.4", 2 TT, 27.75 knots

Scouting Force
Vicealmirante Antonio Bermejo Commander Allied Screen & CnC Iberian Med Fleet

--1st Cruiser Squadron, Contraalmirante Picanco
---Pizarro ...."Pizarro"........1907..16,000........250mm(5x2), 150mm(12x1), 75mm(6x1), 37mm(6x1) 4 TT.................Turbine 24.5 knots
---Pizarro ...."Balboa".........1907..16,000........250mm(5x2), 150mm(12x1), 75mm(6x1), 37mm(6x1) 4 TT.................Turbine 24.5 knots
--4th Cruiser Squadron, Contraalmirante Mário Soares
---Madrid......Madrid...........1910..5,300.........150mm(8x1), 75mm(8x1), 4 TT........................................Turbine 27.5 knots
---Madrid......Rio de Janeiro...1910..5,300.........150mm(8x1), 75mm(8x1), 4 TT........................................Turbine 27.5 knots 
--5th Cruiser Squadron, Contraalmirante Castro
---Madrid......Manila...........1910..5,300.........150mm(8x1), 75mm(8x1), 4 TT........................................Turbine 27.5 knots
---Madrid......Lisbon...........1910..5,300.........150mm(8x1), 75mm(8x1), 4 TT........................................Turbine 27.5 knots
--6th Cruiser Squadron, Contraalmirante Vasco de Almeida
---San Juan....San Juan.........1911..2,600.........120mm(5x1), 75mm(4x1), 6 TT........................................Turbine 28 knots
---San Juan....Las Palmas.......1911..2,600.........120mm(5x1), 75mm(4x1), 6 TT........................................Turbine 28 knots
---San Juan....Porto............1911..2,600.........120mm(5x1), 75mm(4x1), 6 TT........................................Turbine 28 knots
---San Juan....São Paulo........1911..2,600.........120mm(5x1), 75mm(4x1), 6 TT........................................Turbine 28 knots


Small Cruisers 1st Division, Kommodor Hans-Peter Baumunziege
Maria Theresie, Herzogin Bathory & Koenigin Heldvig 1909, 4,600 tons, 5x1 5.9", 2x1 3", 8 TT, 27 knots

Torpedo Boats, Capitán de Corbeta Francisco Balsemão

--1st Torpedo Division
---TBD-1909....5................1909..750...........105mm(3x1), 50mm(4x1) 6 TT.........................................Turbine 28 knots
--2nd Torpedo Division
---TBD-1909....5................1909..750...........105mm(3x1), 50mm(4x1) 6 TT.........................................Turbine 28 knots
--3rd Torpedo Division
---TB-1906.....5................1906..500...........47mm(3x1), 4 TT....................................................Turbine 28.5 knots
--4th Torpedo Division
---TB-1906.....5................1906..500...........47mm(3x1), 4 TT....................................................Turbine 28.5 knots


Support Units
Hapsburg Mine Sweepers
12 minesweepers:
M1-M6 - 350 tonners
M7-M12 - 600 tonners
Iberian Support Ship
---AR-1 Hephaestus..............1910..7,500.........150mm(4x1).........................................................Turbine 18 knots

there also are two tenders which can support forward basing of the Torpedoboat Flotillas:
SMS Schreubke, Habsburg Larger Fleet Tender-Repair Ship
SMS Kugelschreiber, Habsburg Small Fleet Tender


The Rock Doctor

#33
25 June 1912:  Romania

Border security units receive a shake-up as the Romanian government seeks to re-assert full authority over the northern part of the country.  Twenty-two officers are relieved of their duties for failing to maintain discipline amongst their men and for allowing "mass illegal entry of foreign citizens" - a euphamism for letting three trainloads of Hapsburger troops enter the country. 

Their replacements begin the task of restoring discipline to their units, while freshly-arrived reinforcements politely advise the Hapsburgers that they will be interned for the duration of the war if they are still on Romanian soil on 1 July.

26 June 1912:  Red Sea

The Abwher has made a point of monitoring the location of the former DKB cruiser Herta - now the SS T.A.G.* - ever since her repair and sale to the infamous Captain Taugon. 

On this day, the Hapsburger naval attache in Dar-es-Salaam is advised that the T.A.G. was seen to sortie from New Zion on 24 June, destination unknown.


*Foxy:  WTF does this stand for?

27 June 1912:  Greece

The Iberian 4th Cruiser Squadron and 3rd Torpedo Division depart Malta for Pylos.

27 June 1912:  Ottoman/Hapsburger Frontier

Janissaries launch another night raid upon a section of the Hapsburger lines.  They are, however, detected in "No Man's Land" by a Hapsburger forward picket, which sounds the alarm and duck for cover. 

Although the Hapsburger machine gun teams can't see very well, their fire mows down hundreds of Ottomans long before they can reach the Hapsburger trenches.  Some of the survivors panic and break, running back for their own fortifications; many are killed by the blindly-firing Hapsburgers, and a few are killed by nervous countrymen.  The more level-headed janissaries take shelter where they can - behind tree stumps or rocks, or just flat on the ground - and crawl back to their lines once the gunfire has died away.

Come morning, a Hapsburger staff officer estimates that there are five to six hundred bodies in the area between the lines.

28 June 1912:  Piri (OTL Diego Garcia), Chagos Archipelago

A patrol of Iberian infantry is ambushed and annihilated by Ottoman troops, who have decided to make a stand in the jungle-clad interior of the island*. 


*Bear in mind it is considerably larger than OTL Diego Garcia, so has probably a few hundred square kilometers of such terrain

29 June 1912:  Atlantic Coast of Iberia

Iberian coast-watchers and patrol craft watch with considerable interest as the Dutch armored frigate Count der Assen steams south, just outside Iberian territorial waters.  Iberian wireless operators have no difficulty interpreting the frigate's plain-language sighting reports every time it comes within sight of a new Iberian vessel.

29 June 1912:  Greece

The Iberian 4th Crusier Squadron and 3rd Torpedo Division approach Pylos, noting plumes of smoke rising from the town even before the town itself is visible to the naked eye.  On closer inspection, most of the smoke is from burning buildings, but some of the smoke is from the stacks of an Ottoman monitor and two smaller vessels offshore. 

The Iberian commander aboard Madrid concludes that the Ottomans are shelling the town - possibly in conjunction with a ground attack - but certainly to the detriment of the town's inhabitants and the rebel organization in the area.  He orders his force to flank speed for a torpedo attack.

As it's early afternoon, with good weather, the Ottomans see the Iberians coming from some distance away.  The two smaller vessels move to intercept the incoming torpedo-boats while attempting to stay out of the monitor's line of fire towards the Iberian cruisers.  The monitor's eleven inch guns are first to fire, and two spouts of water erupt well short of the Iberian cruiser Madrid.  The Iberian cruisers respond with their forward guns, aiming towards the two Ottoman escorts, and one returns fire with a medium caliber gun of its own. 

Over the next few minutes, the range between the two squadrons drop, and the accuracy of the gunfire increases.  An eleven inch shell hits Madrid obliquely near her starboard bow, hardly degrading her combat abilities, then another shell two salvoes later strikes the forward 150mm gun on the starboard beam, obliterating the gun and sending a hail of splinters through the forward funnel, the ship's boats, and starboard torpedo carriage.  One of the torpedo-boats has worse luck, taking multiple hits from the Ottoman escorts that cause major flooding.

However, the Ottomans are not scoring enough hits to stop the Iberian attack.  Although Madrid takes a third punishing hit to her engineering spaces, Rio de Janiero is able to launche her larger torpedoes at a range of four thousand yards and the monitor turns to comb them.  Two of the Iberian torpedo-boats launch their fish within moments of Rio de Janiero, but the other two operational boats wait until they're just twenty-five hundred yards out before launching - catching several hits from the light guns of the slow-moving monitor and her escorts in the interim.  The Iberians now turn to disengage, their light guns still hammering at the escorts. 

The results of the torpedo attack are not certain, but at least one, and possibly two, torpedoes strike the monitor.  Madrid's commander is not pleased, figuring that the monitor could survive this, but other than two torpedoes on each cruiser, he's out of fish and has no wish to take more eleven inch fire.  He orders a withdrawal, and all seven ships steam west.  The stricken torpedo-boat only manages to steam a few miles before signalling that it is sinking; the Iberian formation slows and two other torpedo-boats come up to retrieve the survivors.  After fifteen minutes, the ship* goes down - the first Iberian warship lost in this war - and the six remaining Iberians withdraw at Madrid's** best speed of seventeen knots until well clear of the coast.


*Mike:  I don't see any list of names for these boats anywhere, but you can scratch one 1906-model TB.

**Madrid:  reduced to 61%, with a need for drydocking.
Rio de Janiero:  reduced to 86% from light gunfire.
Torpedo-boats:  100%, 92%, 81%, and 73% respectively.


30 June 1912:  Gibraltar

The Dutch armored frigate Count der Assen makes call in the Russian enclave of Gibraltar.  The Iberian protected cruiser Tagus, having dutifully shadowed the Dutchman since it passed Cadiz, anchors offshore, outside Russian waters.  Two smaller Iberian cruisers arrive a few hours later, anchoring to the east of the Russian port.

30 June 1912:  Ottoman/Hapsburg Frontier

The Hapburger First Army launches a pair of raids against sectors of the Ottoman lines west of Belgrade.  Ottoman defensive fire is spirited, and the raiding Heimwehr troops are soon recalled.  Still, approximately two hundred fifty of them are killed or injured.

Through out the day, Hapsburger artillery fire in the vicinity of Belgrade is heavier than previously.

END OF WAR RESULTS FOR JUNE 1912

Ithekro


The Rock Doctor

Thankee, lad.  Foxy also mentioned it to me, but via PM.

Sachmle

Quote*Mike:  I don't see any list of names for these boats anywhere, but you can scratch one 1906-model TB.

**Madrid:  reduced to 61%, with a need for drydocking.
Rio de Janiero:  reduced to 86% from light gunfire.
Torpedo-boats:  100%, 92%, 81%, and 73% respectively

All this for 2 torpedo hits and misc med/small caliber hits on a monitor and 2 lightweights, ouch.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

miketr

Such is life....  The only long-term loss was a single TB.  One CL will need a few months dry dock time and 1 TB also it looks like I and the rest just access to a repair base, those will be left to the AR-1 in Malta. I will need to redo my 1912 H2 budget and free up a little cash and have a floating cash reserve to cover more damage.  An oversight on my part to be sure.

My only objection is that it would have been better for the Iberian cruiser and TB's to hang out off the coast.  Call in more firepower and assure the destruction of the Ottoman War ships.  The function of the cruisers is to be the eyes of the fleet, in other words to scout.  I gave no specific orders one way or another to cover such circumstance.  So oh well...

In future orders certain things will be spelled out but I can't get to out of hand with such things as you cripple initiative of the military commanders on the sharp end.  In my opinion the most successful militaries function the best when people on the point of contact are given enough latitude and have the will to take advantage of the moment by moment opportunities that occur. 

Not going to sack anyone over this but some additional instructions will come down from the top to clear up the "mission" of the Iberian cruisers.

Sachmle

Quote from: miketr on July 10, 2008, 09:10:54 PM
Such is life....  The only long-term loss was a single TB.  One CL will need a few months dry dock time and 1 TB also it looks like I and the rest just access to a repair base, those will be left to the AR-1 in Malta. I will need to redo my 1912 H2 budget and free up a little cash and have a floating cash reserve to cover more damage.  An oversight on my part to be sure.

My only objection is that it would have been better for the Iberian cruiser and TB's to hang out off the coast.  Call in more firepower and assure the destruction of the Ottoman War ships.  The function of the cruisers is to be the eyes of the fleet, in other words to scout.  I gave no specific orders one way or another to cover such circumstance.  So oh well...

In future orders certain things will be spelled out but I can't get to out of hand with such things as you cripple initiative of the military commanders on the sharp end.  In my opinion the most successful militaries function the best when people on the point of contact are given enough latitude and have the will to take advantage of the moment by moment opportunities that occur. 

Not going to sack anyone over this but some additional instructions will come down from the top to clear up the "mission" of the Iberian cruisers.


QuoteDon't tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and let them surprise you with their results.

George S. Patton

Seems to sum it up succinctly.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim