Iberian-Dutch relations

Started by Borys, November 18, 2007, 03:43:22 AM

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Desertfox

QuoteI'm surprised the Neatherlands never declared war on Siam following the Swiss declaration of war.
And get the Siamese Armed Forces against them? The Siamese Navy might be small but it's pretty powerful. The long coastline and calm waters of the Gulf of Siam make excellent Turbinia territory of which the Siamese had 50! And strange as it may sound, the Siamese Navy is probably the only Navy in the World capable of defeating the Chinese while fighting on equal terms, the Siamese having a whole pack of shallow draft gunboats inmune to the Chinese torpedoes.

Had the Siamese intervened during the Battles of Natuna and Hainan, both of those islands would still be in Swiss hands.
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maddox

The MK had 4  advanced corps on the border, breathing down in the Siamese king. And very well capable to send in more if need be.   

Siam's King is lot of things, but not a fool to invite MK troops.


Korpen

Quote from: miketr on November 18, 2007, 03:10:12 PM
Iberia gave a firm warning that any interference towards our shipping would be considered an act of war.  Iberia did receive a warning from the Netherlands own allies, Brandenburg and Austria, that the Netherlands was going to attack our shipping.  Iberia has had long and friendly relations with these two governments and we see no reason why they would pass on such a warning if they did not believe it to be true.  Perhaps in whatever mental hospital the members of the Netherlands government escaped from this doesn't add up to a massive provocation but in the real world it does.  Especially as the Netherlands Governmental admitted to conducting the provocation as some type of test of its own allies and or Iberia.
Again, Iberia did not react on anything that happened in  the real world, but base that argument on a second hand rumour, that lacked any substance. You are confusing the rumour of an act with the act itself.
The real fact of the matter is that Iberia again and again has taken unprovoked against the Netherlands, while in return the Netherlands have never acted in any way against Iberia.
The "acts of war" Iberia is talking about have never happen outside the imagination of the Iberian leadership. 

QuoteOOC
The talks took place 23rd June till 25th June with it looks like several PM's back and forth between.   I have a few of the PM's in my outbox related to this; I clean my PM's out on a regular bases as I don't want it to get too cluttered and the 250+ and so I don't have all the PM's.  I have is too many as is and I will be purging it once things are wrapped up.
I do not have much more to add there, but looking up the thread the swiss withdrew when more countries became involved.
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Desertfox

QuoteThe MK had 4  advanced corps on the border, breathing down in the Siamese king. And very well capable to send in more if need be.   
Siam had 3 and on excellent defensive ground. The logistics alone would have crippled the Chinese

QuoteSiam's King is lot of things, but not a fool to invite MK troops.
And neither where the Dutch to provoke the Siamese. Siamese intevention early could have turned the tide of war.
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P3D

Considering that Siam does not have the resources to maintain more than 5 corps (one reserve) AND a their navy with construction programs running, I doubt they had more than 50,000 troops on the Chinese border (an "active" corps has about 25000 active troops).
And the Siamese won't have much better railroads than the Chinese in the region either.
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Borys

Ahoj!
Any warfare there will be with coolie transport. On both sides.
The only RR in the region is the one from Hanoi to Saigon, with a little bit between Annam and Tonkin missing.
There might be some short RR around Bangkok.
I will check when the Chiang-Mai RR was built.
Borys
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!