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Started by miketr, November 18, 2007, 12:50:03 PM

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The Rock Doctor

*Cancels deployment plans to the western Pacific*

I'll post H1/09 sim report next weekend - we did our Thanksgiving last month while the weather was still nice.

Ithekro

#16
As we move towards 1909 I've started to adjust the map to reflect the changes.

There are somethings I'm missing.  Several smaller islands deals in the last seven realtime months I've forgotten or never caught.  So help point them out as well as errors (this is based on the 1906 map still).



(I've yet to alter North America fully to reflect the land changes from adding Middle Earth to the west coast.  We'll leave it for now, but I get the feeling Haven will move or join the Indian Lands, or the Indian Lands will became a larger version of Haven based on the map of Middle Earth overlaid on a map of the United States from 1895.  Aside from the Haven/indian Lands there should be nothing else tat needs changing.  The UKA and CSA borders are correct on the world map, only the actual location of Haven is in question.).

maddox

French Guyana is becoming Gran Colombian.  Just to mention

Desertfox

Something else. Due to an oversight by the Treaty writers, NS is NOT required to evacuate any captured territory outside of New Guinea. That said, Celebes, Tarakan, the Lesser Sundas, Kupang, and Easter Island should be recolored light brown.
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Carthaginian

I've got tennative reports for 1909 done, and can adjust them for last week of NOV, but then I have 9 tests in 3 weeks, including 6 finals (3 classes, and 3 labs). I'll be slow till about 15 DEC.
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Ithekro

This map reflect the change in French Guyana as well as what I think the new relationship with Haven and the Indian Lands are.  Haven (in Middle Earth terms) would be Nurn and part of Near Harad with the border on the mountains (not the Sea) and then the real Green River and Colorado River south of the Middle Earth mountians.



The relationship Haven/Indian Lands may not be needed anymore and in turn combines the two so that they are all "The Haven of the Peoples" rather than two seperate parts, since the geography has changed and the purpose of the Haven seems to be gone (at least for the Haven in its original form, which was a guarded region defended by Rohan to keep the UKA away from those that did not wish to be assimilated by either Rohan or the Europeans).  The Indian Lands, as they are now, are protected/allied to Rohan, but they don't have the more obvious road block the Haven had early in the sim.  What do you think?

The Dutch campaign in that region kicked the Swiss out of the Lesser Sundas I would imagine.  Timor would have fallen before the treaty signing, so that would be Dutch.  Tarakan is worthless aftter the Dutch left so I see no point in the Swiss staying personally.  Easter Island is a dead island.  I would think the ships that returned on July 15th would have been spooked and call it haunted.

Ithekro

Possible Swiss war based changes (Celebes, Tarakan island, and Easter Island), plus a fix on South America (Chile).



What deals were made between the Swiss and Iberia over islands and Brandenburg (or Swiss) with Columbia over islands?

What changes can be reflected for the Japanese (I recall rumors of things, but not where and when)?

Desertfox

The Dutch ignored Swiss troops in the Lesser Sundas, and did not manage to capture Kupang (but did recapture the rest of Timor). Tarakan is not exacly worthless, and can be rebuilt. As for Easter Island, there is a mystery to solve. There are also a few islands around Rabaul that changed hands, have to look them up.
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Ithekro

#23
It seems that if a territory is not specified in the treaty it returns to its pre-war borders.


The Rock Doctor

QuoteSomething else. Due to an oversight by the Treaty writers, NS is NOT required to evacuate any captured territory outside of New Guinea. That said, Celebes, Tarakan, the Lesser Sundas, Kupang, and Easter Island should be recolored light brown.

Oh, God.

Recognizing that the treaty can't account for things the writers don't know about - do the Swiss really think that it's a good idea to continue occupying those territories?

P3D

Desertfox,

I strongly advise New Switzerland to evacuate those territories. As the treaty does not cede you those islands, keeping soldiers on foreign soil is a very bad idea, looking at the list of countries taking part in the conference.

BTW, Kupang fell to the Dutch. There was some communication delay due to severe weather in the area
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Desertfox

Since I was forced to sign that treaty I will be following it to the letter and not an inch more. It is not NS fault that there was an oversight in the wording of the treaty, nor is it NS fault that the ships required to evacuate those troops where sunk during the war.
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Ithekro

Desertfox-

That is not helping at all.  Considerable agony has gone into this peace and progression.  It would not be good to rock the damaged boat before it is repaired, it may sink.

Desertfox

If you take a careful look at the negotiations you will see that originaly there was a clause having NS forces evacuated captured territory, but that clause was craftily removed during the negotiations and the Kra Canal was used as an excuse to cover up said omission. Oh there is method to my madness, and yes I have been planning this for a long time, and no NS is not about to evacuate said lands, losing Launceston hasn't helped one bit, nor having to pay the Dutch $15 without being able to negotiate said sum.
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Borys

Ahoj!
I am no longer "allied" to anybody. So my troops stay in New Amsterdam. As squatters.


And the world map could eliminate the Habsburg enclave in north Brasil.
But I would also suggest to keep the original there, as "the word in 1906". So that subsequent maps would tel of the changes that happened.
Borys
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