Byzantine Army

[Jefgte]

I have tested on the 1912H2 report (not calculated)
The Byzantine Army on the "Non Naval Forces" page...

[Kaiser Kirk]

Looking at your sheet, there is a number entered in
   Tab "Economic Summary" tab,
      cell "D109"
That is the New Points, total line, shaded green.

Green fields should be autocalc.
That field should be "pointing " to tab "Non Naval Forces", cell E18.
That is how it's set up on V6 of the sheet.

You can fix it easily.
Either by pointing it your sheet by making
   Tab "Economic Summary"
      Cell "D109"
read :
=$'Non Naval Forces'.E18

[Jefgte]

OK, That's good now.

I correct too the Army architecture

Byzantine Army
Group	6
Section	5 groups
Compagnie	6 sections
Regiment	6 compagnies
Brigade	3 regiments
Division	3 brigades
Army	3 divisions

National Land Forces, always 157 .. for 157 armies of 29160 soldiers.

[snip]

Are we allowing fractional point alocation?

[Jefgte]

For small islands, this is normal.

I will not put 1 point, 29160, soldiers on the Cocos Islands !!!

[snip]

Points, under the original design of the system, do not equate in any way, shape, or form to a number of troops. If Kirk wishes to change that, he can.

[Jefgte]

Or we consider that the colonial troops, because of their distance and the difficulty of supplying them cost more, 1 point, whatever the number of soldiers ...

But, that makes a curious account.
Cocos Islands: 2 sections, 60 soldiers = 1 point
Madagascar: 12 regiments, 12,960 soldiers = 1 point
Homeland: 1 army, 29,160 soldiers = 1 point

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The subtotals of the islands are a more realistic breakdown.
These personal subtotals do not change anything on the total number of points 157 is always 157.

[Kaiser Kirk]

Points, under the original design of the system, do not equate in any way, shape, or form to a number of troops. If Kirk wishes to change that, he can.

I have not changed Snips's set up.
We have a variety of players, some whom may lack the time/interest for detailed Land Army management.

The Points/Units are vague and poorly defined.
So evaluating the Cocos vs. Madagascar vs. Homeland is not needed.

As a matter of information - due to the huge advantages of maritime transport, it may be easier to supply your troops in Madagascar than near Tbilsi in Mountainous central Anatolia.


Allowing players to tie "Points" to specific numbers is a problem.
Imagine if Vilnus defines it's Land units as equivalent to a 12,000 person Division, and Rome defines them as equivalent to an 18,000 person division, while Parthia thinks they are 3 division Corps, and Iberia doesn't define them at all..

Lastly, if Vilnus has a 12000 person division called a land unit...that's not exactly what you're sending to a colonial province. What you send overseas might be a regiment of troops, and a bunch of of engineers, farmers, etc to get the colony established- all of which takes the same cargo load as that 12,000 person division.

The best approach seems to be to go ahead and define your army structure,
but avoid saying what exactly is in the "Land Unit", that's what I asked Fox to do.

[TacCovert4]

I'm just calling my land points amorphously....."Brigades".  While I have a love for that sort of thing and could probably effectively manage an army arrangement across the game, as well as plan and execute some stupidly detailed amphibious assaults (what I actually did in the Corps in my misspent youth), I agree that it's a bit too much forced micro.

Hence 'brigade' = LP.  Mostly because a Brigade is historically the catch-all unit size for a unit that is self-contained with a command structure capable of being independent, integral logistics, and organic combined arms (infantry, artillery, etc).  Plus, a Brigade could be anything from 1000-10,000 troops.