Byzance 1932

Started by Jefgte, March 12, 2024, 05:34:40 PM

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Jefgte

#15
QuoteThe Panzerschiffe is going to have the right amount of armor to fight in its class against the other ships with 9-11in guns running around.  The 12in gun has the punch.  That being said, if you're trying to kill cruisers, for the weight the 12 gun design is probably best.  Or make the 9 gun design just a little heavier and buff its armor to over 6in.

I am actually planning the 4T3x234 on the 15000t Panzerschiff hull.
4T3x234 shells are lighter but the quantity of shells fired is triple than 2T3x305. The probability of hitting is therefore higher.


QuoteI look at your designs and see how inefficient mine are.....for the record.

I will say that older designs are not as good as today's.
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Surcouf

Jefgte

QuoteI am actually planning the 4T3x234 on the 15000t Panzerschiff hull.
4T3x234 shells are lighter but the quantity of shells fired is triple than 2T3x305. The probability of hitting is therefore higher.

15000t is the max for 4HY report

Jesbak - Jukhos, Byzantine Empire AC10 laid down 1932

Displacement:
   15 000 t light; 15 791 t standard; 17 085 t normal; 18 120 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (621,83 ft / 616,80 ft) x 82,19 ft x (22,68 / 23,74 ft)
   (189,53 m / 188,00 m) x 25,05 m  x (6,91 / 7,24 m)

Armament:
      12 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 418,88lbs / 190,00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
     4 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 5 756 lbs / 2 611 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   5,91" / 150 mm   433,01 ft / 131,98 m   10,89 ft / 3,32 m
   Ends:   1,18" / 30 mm   183,79 ft / 56,02 m   10,89 ft / 3,32 m
     Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,77" / 45 mm   433,01 ft / 131,98 m   20,34 ft / 6,20 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 63,98 ft / 19,50 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   6,69" / 170 mm   2,36" / 60 mm      5,91" / 150 mm
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2,56" / 65 mm
   Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm  Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 93 860 shp / 70 020 Kw = 30,00 kts
   Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 329 tons

Complement:
   746 - 971

Cost:
   £6,683 million / $26,732 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 686 tons, 9,9 %
      - Guns: 1 686 tons, 9,9 %
   Armour: 4 415 tons, 25,8 %
      - Belts: 1 251 tons, 7,3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 577 tons, 3,4 %
      - Armament: 848 tons, 5,0 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 570 tons, 9,2 %
      - Conning Towers: 169 tons, 1,0 %
   Machinery: 2 770 tons, 16,2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 665 tons, 33,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 084 tons, 12,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 465 tons, 2,7 %
      - Hull below water: 75 tons
      - Hull above water: 75 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 121 tons
      - Above deck: 194 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     22 455 lbs / 10 186 Kg = 57,4 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 3,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05
   Metacentric height 4,1 ft / 1,2 m
   Roll period: 17,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,65
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,520 / 0,527
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24,84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15,40 %,  28,54 ft / 8,70 m,  24,93 ft / 7,60 m
      - Forward deck:   35,10 %,  24,93 ft / 7,60 m,  19,36 ft / 5,90 m
      - Aft deck:   35,10 %,  19,36 ft / 5,90 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Quarter deck:   14,40 %,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Average freeboard:      20,68 ft / 6,30 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108,0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 177,2 %
   Waterplane Area: 34 401 Square feet or 3 196 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 148 lbs/sq ft or 722 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,41
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
169t for top mast rangefinder - 1930
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21"HW
5t for cata
50t for 2 armed seaplanes
42t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
75t for additionnal pumps


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"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

TacCovert4

Yep, that's what I'd do.  6in is marginal when facing down 9 and 10in guns, but you can't get more belt without more tonnage.

Definitely proof against anything smaller though, comfortably so.   And not only do you have twice the guns, they individually have a faster rate of fire than a 12in gun.

Only thing it'll struggle with is the rare older battlecruiser like mine with 8x11im and the armor to tank 9in shells.
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Jefgte

Quote...Only thing it'll struggle with is the rare older battlecruiser like mine with 8x11im and the armor to tank 9in shells...

It is not surprising that a 15000t is sunk by a 26000t.
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"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
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Jefgte

#19
A lighter version for the AC cruiser

12380t Cruiser, Byzantine Empire AC-3T3x234 laid down 1932

Displacement:
    12 380 t light; 13 027 t standard; 14 181 t normal; 15 104 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (621,63 ft / 616,80 ft) x 77,10 ft x (22,49 / 23,55 ft)
    (189,47 m / 188,00 m) x 23,50 m  x (6,86 / 7,18 m)

Armament:
      9 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 420,00lbs / 190,51kg shells, 100 per gun
      Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
      3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
        1 raised mount - superfiring
      12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
      8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
      8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
        8 raised mounts
      8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
      8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
        8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4 509 lbs / 2 045 kg

Armour:
  - Belts:        Width (max)    Length (avg)        Height (avg)
    Main:    5,91" / 150 mm    427,13 ft / 130,19 m    10,53 ft / 3,21 m
    Ends:    1,18" / 30 mm    189,63 ft / 57,80 m    10,53 ft / 3,21 m
      Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
        1,57" / 40 mm    427,13 ft / 130,19 m    18,90 ft / 5,76 m
    Beam between torpedo bulkheads 60,70 ft / 18,50 m

  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    7,09" / 180 mm    2,36" / 60 mm        4,72" / 120 mm
    2nd:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    3rd:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -
    4th:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -

  - Armoured deck - single deck:
    For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
    Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm

  - Conning towers: Forward 6,69" / 170 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 4 shafts, 80 520 shp / 60 068 Kw = 30,00 kts
    Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 2 077 tons

Complement:
    649 - 844

Cost:
    £5,413 million / $21,654 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 1 055 tons, 7,4 %
      - Guns: 1 055 tons, 7,4 %
    Armour: 3 579 tons, 25,2 %
      - Belts: 1 187 tons, 8,4 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 470 tons, 3,3 %
      - Armament: 499 tons, 3,5 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 289 tons, 9,1 %
      - Conning Towers: 134 tons, 0,9 %
    Machinery: 2 377 tons, 16,8 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 034 tons, 35,5 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 801 tons, 12,7 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 336 tons, 2,4 %
      - Hull below water: 62 tons
      - Hull above water: 60 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 84 tons
      - Above deck: 130 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      19 367 lbs / 8 785 Kg = 49,5 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 3,3 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
    Metacentric height 4,3 ft / 1,3 m
    Roll period: 15,6 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,53
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,14

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has a flush deck,
      a ram bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,464 / 0,472
    Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 24,84 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    16,00 %,  27,40 ft / 8,35 m,  22,80 ft / 6,95 m
      - Forward deck:    34,75 %,  22,80 ft / 6,95 m,  17,72 ft / 5,40 m
      - Aft deck:    34,50 %,  17,72 ft / 5,40 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Quarter deck:    14,75 %,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:        19,29 ft / 5,88 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106,1 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 168,1 %
    Waterplane Area: 30 691 Square feet or 2 851 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 135 lbs/sq ft or 661 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,96
        - Longitudinal: 1,40
        - Overall: 1,00
    Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
105t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21" HW
30t for cata + seaplane
30t reserved
AW
Climatisation
BW
62t for additionnal pumps
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#20
Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-60 aircrafts laid down 1932

Pusuldeniz - Kripodeniz,

Displacement:
    20 940 t light; 21 734 t standard; 23 583 t normal; 25 062 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (730,76 ft / 728,35 ft) x 91,86 ft x (24,67 / 25,83 ft)
    (222,74 m / 222,00 m) x 28,00 m  x (7,52 / 7,87 m)

Armament:
      8 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 120 per gun
      Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1932 Model
      8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
        8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      16 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 340 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
      8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
        8 raised mounts
      24 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
      12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        12 raised mounts
      24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
      12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 178 lbs / 988 kg

Armour:
  - Belts:        Width (max)    Length (avg)        Height (avg)
    Main:    1,97" / 50 mm    684,65 ft / 208,68 m    11,52 ft / 3,51 m
    Ends:    1,97" / 50 mm      43,67 ft / 13,31 m    11,52 ft / 3,51 m
      Main Belt covers 145 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
        1,97" / 50 mm    684,65 ft / 208,68 m    21,72 ft / 6,62 m
    Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72,18 ft / 22,00 m

  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    1,57" / 40 mm          -                  -
    2nd:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    3rd:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -
    4th:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -

  - Armoured deck - single deck:
    For and Aft decks: 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 2 shafts, 105 820 shp / 78 942 Kw = 30,00 kts
    Range 10 000nm at 14,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 3 328 tons

Complement:
    950 - 1 236

Cost:
    £5,814 million / $23,255 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 358 tons, 1,5 %
      - Guns: 358 tons, 1,5 %
    Armour: 3 378 tons, 14,3 %
      - Belts: 641 tons, 2,7 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1 083 tons, 4,6 %
      - Armament: 37 tons, 0,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 617 tons, 6,9 %
    Machinery: 3 123 tons, 13,2 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 280 tons, 35,1 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 643 tons, 11,2 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 5 800 tons, 24,6 %
      - Hull below water: 250 tons
      - Hull above water: 2 820 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 2 670 tons
      - Above deck: 60 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      61 780 lbs / 28 023 Kg = 290,6 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 9,6 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
    Metacentric height 5,6 ft / 1,7 m
    Roll period: 16,2 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,14
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,507
    Length to Beam Ratio: 7,93 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 26,99 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    6,00 %,  22,97 ft / 7,00 m,  19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Forward deck:    47,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Aft deck:    47,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Quarter deck:    0,00 %,  19,69 ft / 6,00 m,  19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:        38,27 ft / 11,66 m
    Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 63,4 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 351,6 %
    Waterplane Area: 44 579 Square feet or 4 142 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 143 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 589 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,87
        - Longitudinal: 3,41
        - Overall: 1,00
    Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
    Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight:
AD
25t for LR Marconi
35t for 1924 fire control
OD
2400t for 30 aircrafts
120t for Climatisation
150t for Fire Fighting
HAW
2400t for 30 aircrafts
120t for Climatisation
150t for Fire Fighting
150t for aircrafts spare parts
HBW
100t for additionnal pumps
150t reserved for  material...


"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

The Rock Doctor


Kaiser Kirk

Quote from: TacCovert4 on March 25, 2024, 05:27:42 PMOnly thing it'll struggle with is the rare older battlecruiser like mine with 8x11im and the armor to tank 9in shells.

That would be the Japanese fleet.

The Parthians do not have anything like that,  we just have 8 ACs with 8x255/47 guns and 195-200mm belt armor. The more recent Zemekas are slightly faster at 31knots... I guess the two Dahae could be called 'battlecruiser' but we prefer 'heavy armored cruiser'.

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Jefgte

Testing for 1932 a 27kts Koloni II

Koloni II, Byzantine Empire Koloni II laid down 1932

Displacement:
   20 750 t light; 22 027 t standard; 23 365 t normal; 24 435 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (621,63 ft / 616,80 ft) x 88,58 ft x (23,91 / 24,82 ft)
   (189,47 m / 188,00 m) x 27,00 m  x (7,29 / 7,57 m)

Armament:
      6 - 15,00" / 381 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 920,01lbs / 870,90kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
     2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      8 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 12 249 lbs / 5 556 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12,6" / 320 mm   413,25 ft / 125,96 m   11,29 ft / 3,44 m
   Ends:   1,57" / 40 mm   203,51 ft / 62,03 m   11,29 ft / 3,44 m
   Upper:   1,57" / 40 mm   413,25 ft / 125,96 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,77" / 45 mm   413,25 ft / 125,96 m   22,77 ft / 6,94 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 68,90 ft / 21,00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   3,94" / 100 mm      11,0" / 280 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
   Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm  Quarter deck: 2,76" / 70 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11,81" / 300 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 79 232 shp / 59 107 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 408 tons

Complement:
   944 - 1 228

Cost:
   £9,245 million / $36,980 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 182 tons, 9,3 %
      - Guns: 2 182 tons, 9,3 %
   Armour: 7 753 tons, 33,2 %
      - Belts: 2 885 tons, 12,3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 617 tons, 2,6 %
      - Armament: 1 190 tons, 5,1 %
      - Armour Deck: 2 784 tons, 11,9 %
      - Conning Towers: 277 tons, 1,2 %
   Machinery: 2 339 tons, 10,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7 972 tons, 34,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 614 tons, 11,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 505 tons, 2,2 %
      - Hull below water: 100 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 162 tons
      - Above deck: 243 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     32 954 lbs / 14 948 Kg = 19,5 x 15,0 " / 381 mm shells or 5,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
   Metacentric height 5,1 ft / 1,6 m
   Roll period: 16,5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,76
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,631
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,96 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24,84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,00 %,  27,40 ft / 8,35 m,  22,80 ft / 6,95 m
      - Forward deck:   33,50 %,  22,80 ft / 6,95 m,  18,21 ft / 5,55 m
      - Aft deck:   33,50 %,  18,21 ft / 5,55 m,  16,08 ft / 4,90 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,00 %,  16,08 ft / 4,90 m,  16,08 ft / 4,90 m
      - Average freeboard:      19,37 ft / 5,90 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92,9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 155,5 %
   Waterplane Area: 40 940 Square feet or 3 803 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 173 lbs/sq ft or 846 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,44
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
218t fire control
25t Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx533HW
100t for Flag Ship
38t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
100t for extra pump installation
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
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Jefgte

... Update to 29kts

Koloni III, Byzantine Empire Koloni III laid down 1932

Displacement:
   23 850 t light; 25 193 t standard; 26 672 t normal; 27 856 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (736,89 ft / 731,63 ft) x 88,58 ft x (24,62 / 25,51 ft)
   (224,60 m / 223,00 m) x 27,00 m  x (7,51 / 7,78 m)

Armament:
      6 - 15,00" / 381 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 920,01lbs / 870,90kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
     2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      8 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 12 249 lbs / 5 556 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12,6" / 320 mm   497,51 ft / 151,64 m   11,29 ft / 3,44 m
   Ends:   1,57" / 40 mm   234,09 ft / 71,35 m   11,29 ft / 3,44 m
   Upper:   1,57" / 40 mm   497,51 ft / 151,64 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,77" / 45 mm   497,51 ft / 151,64 m   23,06 ft / 7,03 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 68,90 ft / 21,00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   3,94" / 100 mm      11,0" / 280 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
   Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm  Quarter deck: 2,76" / 70 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11,81" / 300 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 102 969 shp / 76 815 Kw = 29,00 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 663 tons

Complement:
   1 043 - 1 356

Cost:
   £10,184 million / $40,736 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 182 tons, 8,2 %
      - Guns: 2 182 tons, 8,2 %
   Armour: 8 819 tons, 33,1 %
      - Belts: 3 373 tons, 12,6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 752 tons, 2,8 %
      - Armament: 1 201 tons, 4,5 %
      - Armour Deck: 3 190 tons, 12,0 %
      - Conning Towers: 303 tons, 1,1 %
   Machinery: 3 039 tons, 11,4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 286 tons, 34,8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 822 tons, 10,6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 524 tons, 2,0 %
      - Hull below water: 105 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 176 tons
      - Above deck: 243 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     37 781 lbs / 17 137 Kg = 22,4 x 15,0 " / 381 mm shells or 5,9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
   Metacentric height 5,0 ft / 1,5 m
   Roll period: 16,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,75
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,11

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,585 / 0,590
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,26 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27,05 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   16,50 %,  29,86 ft / 9,10 m,  22,97 ft / 7,00 m
      - Forward deck:   34,00 %,  22,97 ft / 7,00 m,  18,37 ft / 5,60 m
      - Aft deck:   34,00 %,  18,37 ft / 5,60 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15,50 %,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:      19,73 ft / 6,01 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92,5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 46 740 Square feet or 4 342 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 172 lbs/sq ft or 839 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,98
      - Longitudinal: 1,10
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
218t fire control
25t Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx533HW
100t for Flag Ship
52t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
100t for extra pump installation

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

After testing cruisers with 234/51s, the Byzantine Admiralty found that 8000t cruisers with 12x191s had correct protection and excellent fire volume. The program continues with slight modifications.

Patuh - Prukho, Byzantine Empire C15 laid down 1932

Displacement:
   8 000 t light; 8 575 t standard; 9 620 t normal; 10 457 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (553,05 ft / 547,57 ft) x 62,01 ft x (20,32 / 21,63 ft)
   (168,57 m / 166,90 m) x 18,90 m  x (6,19 / 6,59 m)

Armament:
      12 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 160 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1932 Model
     6 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1932 Model
     6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts - superfiring
      Weight of broadside 3 129 lbs / 1 419 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,94" / 100 mm   366,86 ft / 111,82 m   9,45 ft / 2,88 m
   Ends:   1,38" / 35 mm   180,68 ft / 55,07 m   9,45 ft / 2,88 m
     Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5,51" / 140 mm   0,98" / 25 mm      1,97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
   Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 66 300 shp / 49 460 Kw = 30,00 kts
   Range 14 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 881 tons

Complement:
   485 - 631

Cost:
   £3,864 million / $15,456 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 840 tons, 8,7 %
      - Guns: 840 tons, 8,7 %
   Armour: 1 530 tons, 15,9 %
      - Belts: 649 tons, 6,7 %
      - Armament: 120 tons, 1,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 696 tons, 7,2 %
      - Conning Towers: 65 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 1 957 tons, 20,3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 414 tons, 35,5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 620 tons, 16,8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 259 tons, 2,7 %
      - Hull below water: 40 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 110 tons
      - Above deck: 109 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11 042 lbs / 5 009 Kg = 51,9 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,04
   Metacentric height 2,6 ft / 0,8 m
   Roll period: 16,1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,86
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,488 / 0,498
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,83 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,40 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 67
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,00 %,  25,75 ft / 7,85 m,  20,67 ft / 6,30 m
      - Forward deck:   33,50 %,  20,67 ft / 6,30 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Aft deck:   33,50 %,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,00 %,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:      18,41 ft / 5,61 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96,7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 22 379 Square feet or 2 079 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 112 lbs/sq ft or 547 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,51
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
84t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
OD
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
45t for 2 seaplanes + cata
18t reserved for new materials, minen...
AW
Climatisatisation
BW
40t for additionnal pumps


"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#26
18510t Koloni class cost much $ & BP. A lighter version of 15200t will probably be chosen.

BB10, Byzantine Empire colonial BB laid down 1932

Displacement:
   15 200 t light; 16 169 t standard; 16 851 t normal; 17 397 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (572,21 ft / 567,59 ft) x 78,74 ft x (21,99 / 22,58 ft)
   (174,41 m / 173,00 m) x 24,00 m  x (6,70 / 6,88 m)

Armament:
      6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 410,01lbs / 639,57kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
     2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 320 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
      8 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 320 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 9 189 lbs / 4 168 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   368,93 ft / 112,45 m   10,66 ft / 3,25 m
   Ends:   1,57" / 40 mm   198,62 ft / 60,54 m   10,66 ft / 3,25 m
   Upper:   1,57" / 40 mm   368,93 ft / 112,45 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,77" / 45 mm   368,93 ft / 112,45 m   20,73 ft / 6,32 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 59,06 ft / 18,00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   11,8" / 300 mm   3,94" / 100 mm      9,84" / 250 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
   Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm  Quarter deck: 2,76" / 70 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11,81" / 300 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 41 211 shp / 30 744 Kw = 24,00 kts
   Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 228 tons

Complement:
   739 - 961

Cost:
   £6,480 million / $25,919 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 679 tons, 10,0 %
      - Guns: 1 679 tons, 10,0 %
   Armour: 6 155 tons, 36,5 %
      - Belts: 2 314 tons, 13,7 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 501 tons, 3,0 %
      - Armament: 909 tons, 5,4 %
      - Armour Deck: 2 208 tons, 13,1 %
      - Conning Towers: 223 tons, 1,3 %
   Machinery: 1 216 tons, 7,2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 809 tons, 34,5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 651 tons, 9,8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 340 tons, 2,0 %
      - Hull below water: 75 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 72 tons
      - Above deck: 193 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     27 682 lbs / 12 557 Kg = 22,5 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 5,0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,17
   Metacentric height 4,7 ft / 1,4 m
   Roll period: 15,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,79
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,30

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,600 / 0,603
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,21 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,82 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   18,00 %,  26,25 ft / 8,00 m,  21,98 ft / 6,70 m
      - Forward deck:   32,50 %,  21,98 ft / 6,70 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Aft deck:   32,50 %,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,00 %,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m,  15,09 ft / 4,60 m
      - Average freeboard:      18,19 ft / 5,54 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85,9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147,2 %
   Waterplane Area: 32 687 Square feet or 3 037 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 158 lbs/sq ft or 769 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,95
      - Longitudinal: 1,51
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

AD
168t fire control
25t Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx533HW
25t for cata + seaplane
18t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
75t for extra pump installation
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#27
1932 DD with 2T2x120 from 1926 C11 class
Cost 1,53$ & 1.53BP.

D15, Byzantine Empire D15 laid down 1932

Displacement:
    1 580 t light; 1 662 t standard; 1 948 t normal; 2 178 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (397,58 ft / 393,70 ft) x 36,09 ft x (11,71 / 12,62 ft)
    (121,18 m / 120,00 m) x 11,00 m  x (3,57 / 3,85 m)

Armament:
      4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 220 per gun
      Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
      2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
      2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
        2 raised mounts
      4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
      2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
        2 raised mounts
      4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
      2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
        2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 216 lbs / 98 kg

Armour:
  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    2nd:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -
    3rd:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -
    4th:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 2 shafts, 38 026 shp / 28 367 Kw = 32,76 kts
    Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 516 tons

Complement:
    146 - 190

Cost:
    £0,921 million / $3,684 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 41 tons, 2,1 %
      - Guns: 41 tons, 2,1 %
    Armour: 4 tons, 0,2 %
      - Armament: 4 tons, 0,2 %
    Machinery: 973 tons, 50,0 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 455 tons, 23,4 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 368 tons, 18,9 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 107 tons, 5,5 %
      - On freeboard deck: 78 tons
      - Above deck: 29 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      554 lbs / 251 Kg = 10,5 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,28
    Metacentric height 1,7 ft / 0,5 m
    Roll period: 11,7 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,15
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,06

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has a flush deck,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,410 / 0,425
    Length to Beam Ratio: 10,91 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 19,84 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    18,00 %,  21,98 ft / 6,70 m,  16,90 ft / 5,15 m
      - Forward deck:    33,00 %,  16,90 ft / 5,15 m,  11,98 ft / 3,65 m
      - Aft deck:    33,00 %,  11,98 ft / 3,65 m,  11,32 ft / 3,45 m
      - Quarter deck:    16,00 %,  11,32 ft / 3,45 m,  11,65 ft / 3,55 m
      - Average freeboard:        13,85 ft / 4,22 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 168,5 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,7 %
    Waterplane Area: 8 799 Square feet or 817 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 79 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 151 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,50
        - Longitudinal: 1,04
        - Overall: 0,53
    Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
4t for1924 top mast rangefinder
25t for LR marconi
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
10t for1920 sonar
6t for 30x195 DC
30t reserved for new material, paravanes, armament, minen.
AW
climatisation

Trial speed: 33,5 kts
Bonus: 0.74
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

Don't forget the replacement of the 1896 hospital ships.

4600t Hospital Ship, Byzantine Empire Hospital Ship laid down 1932

Displacement:
   4 600 t light; 4 711 t standard; 5 505 t normal; 6 141 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (409,19 ft / 406,82 ft) x 62,60 ft x (12,61 / 13,80 ft)
   (124,72 m / 124,00 m) x 19,08 m  x (3,84 / 4,21 m)

Armament:
      8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 1 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1 lbs / 0 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 8 000 shp / 5 968 Kw = 18,04 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 430 tons

Complement:
   319 - 415

Cost:
   £0,883 million / $3,532 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1 tons, 0,0 %
      - Guns: 1 tons, 0,0 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0,0 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 0,0 %
   Machinery: 236 tons, 4,3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 772 tons, 32,2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 905 tons, 16,4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 2 590 tons, 47,0 %
      - Hull below water: 1 000 tons
      - Hull above water: 1 200 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 390 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     15 664 lbs / 7 105 Kg = 250 625,8 x 0,5 " / 13 mm shells or 2,8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,50
   Metacentric height 4,9 ft / 1,5 m
   Roll period: 11,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 93 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,85

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, rise aft of midbreak, low quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,600 / 0,611
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,50 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,17 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15,00 %,  22,47 ft / 6,85 m,  19,19 ft / 5,85 m
      - Forward deck:   10,00 %,  11,32 ft / 3,45 m,  11,32 ft / 3,45 m
      - Aft deck:   50,00 %,  19,19 ft / 5,85 m,  19,19 ft / 5,85 m
      - Quarter deck:   25,00 %,  11,32 ft / 3,45 m,  11,32 ft / 3,45 m
      - Average freeboard:      16,63 ft / 5,07 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 58,4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 198,5 %
   Waterplane Area: 18 626 Square feet or 1 730 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 180 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 71 lbs/sq ft or 345 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,41
      - Overall: 0,99
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight: 2590t
300t for medical magasin
490t for hospital
1800t for 450 beds

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

The Rock Doctor

The machine guns would be problematic under international law (at least as we know it).