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San Carlos de Bariloche class, NUS Cruiser laid down 1910 (Engine 1909)

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2 ships in class: San Carlos de Bariloche and Ciudad Jardín Lomas del Palomar.

Displacement:
   9,475 t light; 10,013 t standard; 11,490 t normal; 12,672 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   533.00 ft / 529.00 ft x 56.00 ft x 22.00 ft (normal load)
   162.46 m / 161.24 m x 17.07 m  x 6.71 m

Armament:
     6 - 9.20" / 234 mm guns (3x2 guns), 380.00lbs / 172.37kg shells, 1910 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority aft
     8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all forward
     8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
     4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 3,198 lbs / 1,451 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 165

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   320.00 ft / 97.54 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   1.00" / 25 mm   209.00 ft / 63.70 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   320.00 ft / 97.54 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 93 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -

  - Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 32,238 shp / 24,049 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 7,500nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,659 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   554 - 721

Cost:
   £0.897 million / $3.587 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 407 tons, 3.5 %
   Armour: 3,531 tons, 30.7 %
      - Belts: 2,068 tons, 18.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 786 tons, 6.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 611 tons, 5.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 66 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 1,596 tons, 13.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,816 tons, 33.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,015 tons, 17.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 125 tons, 1.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     16,833 lbs / 7,635 Kg = 43.2 x 9.2 " / 234 mm shells or 2.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 2.6 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 14.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.87
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.58

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.617
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.45 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.00 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 44
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.00 ft / 1.22 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Mid (55 %):      23.00 ft / 7.01 m (15.00 ft / 4.57 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Stern:      15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Average freeboard:   19.40 ft / 5.91 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 74.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 22,014 Square feet or 2,045 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 513 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.57
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

25 tons for Marconi
100 tons reserve weight
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#1
Tupac Yupanqui - laid down 1911H1 - com 1912H2



6000T cruiser, Peru Escort Cruiser laid down 1911

Displacement:
   6 000 t light; 6 400 t standard; 7 101 t normal; 7 663 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   390.42 ft / 390.42 ft x 71.52 ft x 17.28 ft (normal load)
   119.00 m / 119.00 m x 21.80 m  x 5.27 m

Armament:
     4 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (2x2 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
     8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     4 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1911 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 4 089 lbs / 1 855 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110
   4 - 21.0" / 533 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.72" / 120 mm   246.06 ft / 75.00 m   9.19 ft / 2.80 m
   Ends:   2.36" / 60 mm   131.23 ft / 40.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     13.12 ft / 4.00 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 97 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.51" / 140 mm   1.57" / 40 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   2nd:   1.57" / 40 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 1.18" / 30 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 18 000 shp / 13 428 Kw = 21.51 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 263 tons

Complement:
   386 - 502

Cost:
   £0.742 million / $2.966 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 511 tons, 7.2 %
   Armour: 1 321 tons, 18.6 %
      - Belts: 568 tons, 8.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 304 tons, 4.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 412 tons, 5.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 38 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 730 tons, 10.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 277 tons, 46.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 102 tons, 15.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 160 tons, 2.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8 621 lbs / 3 910 Kg = 10.0 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.19
   Metacentric height 4.2 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 14.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.50
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.16

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.515
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.46 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.76 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.31 ft / 6.80 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   18.04 ft / 5.50 m
      - Mid (40 %):      14.44 ft / 4.40 m
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   14.44 ft / 4.40 m
      - Stern:      14.44 ft / 4.40 m
      - Average freeboard:   15.86 ft / 4.83 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 140.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 18 863 Square feet or 1 752 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 129 lbs/sq ft or 628 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.91
      - Longitudinal: 2.30
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

Shinchi Roca laid down 1913H1 - com 1915H1

8000T cruiser, Peru Armored  Cruiser laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   8 000 t light; 8 403 t standard; 9 206 t normal; 9 848 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   554.46 ft / 554.46 ft x 59.06 ft x 18.39 ft (normal load)
   169.00 m / 169.00 m x 18.00 m  x 5.61 m

Armament:
     4 - 9.06" / 230 mm guns (2x2 guns), 371.24lbs / 168.39kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
     2 - 9.06" / 230 mm guns (1x2 guns), 371.24lbs / 168.39kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
     on centreline amidships
     12 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1913 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 2 914 lbs / 1 322 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 125
   4 - 18.0" / 457 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.72" / 120 mm   374.02 ft / 114.00 m   10.17 ft / 3.10 m
   Ends:   1.57" / 40 mm   144.36 ft / 44.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     36.09 ft / 11.00 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.72" / 120 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   2nd:   4.72" / 120 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 1.38" / 35 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 46 000 shp / 34 316 Kw = 27.49 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 445 tons

Complement:
   469 - 610

Cost:
   £0.919 million / $3.678 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 364 tons, 4.0 %
   Armour: 1 759 tons, 19.1 %
      - Belts: 816 tons, 8.9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 323 tons, 3.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 574 tons, 6.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 45 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 1 834 tons, 19.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 743 tons, 40.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 206 tons, 13.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 3.3 %
High fire control - 250t
Marconi - long range wireless - 25t
Reserve - 25t
Crew confort mesures - climat control
Magazines climat control
Damage control - Extra pumps & generators


Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10 011 lbs / 4 541 Kg = 27.0 x 9.1 " / 230 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 14.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.535
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.39 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Forecastle (18 %):   19.36 ft / 5.90 m
      - Mid (40 %):      16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Quarterdeck (18 %):   16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Stern:      16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Average freeboard:   17.29 ft / 5.27 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 22 533 Square feet or 2 093 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 535 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.24
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily


"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#3
Here is AC Manco Capac
ex Valandil enter jan 1918 in Callao Shipyards for modifications to standard of the Peruvian Armada.
- New 230/45 mlle 1916 take the place of the old 9"/42-Mlle1893
- New 120/45 mlle 1905 QF take the place of the old 4"5/42-Mlle1891
- New 40MlleAA 1916 take the place of the 38mm from Rohan
- Cage mast are removed & the classic circular light top blockaus installed in places & not so high.



The calculation give:
875t in all - 637t for the guns & 238t for new equipement.
cost 1.75$ - 0.875BP

Manco Capac (13200t) ex Valandil (13170t), Peru AC laid down 1906 (Engine 1909) rebuilt 1918

Displacement:
   13 200 t light; 13 915 t standard; 15 488 t normal; 16 747 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   520.00 ft / 520.00 ft x 73.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
   158.50 m / 158.50 m x 22.25 m  x 7.32 m

Armament:
     8 - 9.06" / 230 mm guns (4x2 guns), 371.24lbs / 168.39kg shells, 1906 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
     4 - 9.06" / 230 mm guns in single mounts, 371.24lbs / 168.39kg shells, 1906 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     12 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1906 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 5 096 lbs / 2 311 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 135

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   340.00 ft / 103.63 m   11.00 ft / 3.35 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   180.00 ft / 54.86 m   11.00 ft / 3.35 m
   Upper:   5.00" / 127 mm   340.00 ft / 103.63 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      9.00" / 229 mm
   2nd:   5.00" / 127 mm         -               -
   3rd:   5.00" / 127 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 9.00" / 229 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 46 000 shp / 34 316 Kw = 24.85 kts
   Range 7 500nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 832 tons (58% coal)

Complement:
   693 - 902

Cost:
   £1.306 million / $5.224 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 637 tons, 4.1 %
   Armour: 4 899 tons, 31.6 %
      - Belts: 2 408 tons, 15.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 1 348 tons, 8.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 022 tons, 6.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 120 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 2 207 tons, 14.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 372 tons, 34.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 288 tons, 14.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 85 tons, 0.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     20 330 lbs / 9 222 Kg = 54.8 x 9.1 " / 230 mm shells or 2.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.06
   Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 16.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.26

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.595
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.12 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.80 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.00 ft / 7.92 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Mid (50 %):      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Stern:      18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.37 ft / 6.21 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 79.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 151.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 27 634 Square feet or 2 567 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 130 lbs/sq ft or 634 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.73
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf