After 1901 - 12000t BB Austerlitz class,
New SS to studies:
with VTE or Turbines 20 000shp max)
=> BB - 3T2x12" - 18kts & 21kts - probably 14000 to 16000t
Different armament possibilities could be tested too
=> CP - 4000t - 24kts
Jef 8)
BB6, France BB6 laid down 1904 (Engine 1902)
Displacement:
17 000 t light; 17 871 t standard; 19 300 t normal; 20 443 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(528.22 ft / 528.22 ft) x 68.90 ft (Bulges 78.74 ft) x (25.94 / 27.41 ft)
(161.00 m / 161.00 m) x 21.00 m (Bulges 24.00 m) x (7.91 / 8.35 m)
Armament:
6 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.07lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
6 - 7.64" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 224.67lbs / 101.91kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
6 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
16 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 raised mounts
8 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 7 079 lbs / 3 211 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 347.77 ft / 106.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 4.72" / 120 mm 131.23 ft / 40.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
49.21 ft / 15.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 347.77 ft / 106.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 10.6" / 270 mm
2nd: 7.09" / 180 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 7.09" / 180 mm
4th: 0.98" / 25 mm - 0.98" / 25 mm
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2.76" / 70 mm
Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10.63" / 270 mm, Aft 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 27 558 ihp / 20 558 Kw = 21.00 kts
Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 572 tons (100% coal)
Complement:
818 - 1 064
Cost:
£1.819 million / $7.276 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 398 tons, 7.2 %
- Guns: 1 398 tons, 7.2 %
Armour: 5 601 tons, 29.0 %
- Belts: 2 595 tons, 13.4 %
- Armament: 1 468 tons, 7.6 %
- Armour Deck: 1 263 tons, 6.5 %
- Conning Towers: 275 tons, 1.4 %
Machinery: 4 175 tons, 21.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 525 tons, 28.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 300 tons, 11.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.6 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 25 tons
- Above deck: 250 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18 283 lbs / 8 293 Kg = 21.1 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
Metacentric height 4.2 ft / 1.3 m
Roll period: 16.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.58
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.59
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.626 / 0.628
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.71 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.98 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 24.93 ft / 7.60 m, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m, 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 17.72 ft / 5.40 m, 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 17.72 ft / 5.40 m, 17.72 ft / 5.40 m
- Average freeboard: 18.83 ft / 5.74 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 115.6 %
Waterplane Area: 27 269 Square feet or 2 533 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 143 lbs/sq ft or 698 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.55
- Overall: 1.01
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
BB6, France BB6 laid down 1904 (Engine 1902)
Displacement:
16 925 t light; 17 911 t standard; 19 339 t normal; 20 481 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(528.22 ft / 528.22 ft) x 72.18 ft (Bulges 75.46 ft) x (26.70 / 28.09 ft)
(161.00 m / 161.00 m) x 22.00 m (Bulges 23.00 m) x (8.14 / 8.56 m)
Armament:
4 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.08lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 9.45" / 240 mm 48.0 cal guns - 485.00lbs / 219.99kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 raised mounts
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 7 865 lbs / 3 567 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 4.72" / 120 mm 131.23 ft / 40.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
36.09 ft / 11.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 11.8" / 300 mm
2nd: 7.09" / 180 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 5.91" / 150 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
5th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2.76" / 70 mm
Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10.63" / 270 mm, Aft 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 27 872 ihp / 20 792 Kw = 21.08 kts
Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 570 tons (100% coal)
Complement:
819 - 1 065
Cost:
£1.886 million / $7.545 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 548 tons, 8.0 %
- Guns: 1 548 tons, 8.0 %
Armour: 5 375 tons, 27.8 %
- Belts: 2 549 tons, 13.2 %
- Armament: 1 216 tons, 6.3 %
- Armour Deck: 1 335 tons, 6.9 %
- Conning Towers: 275 tons, 1.4 %
Machinery: 4 223 tons, 21.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 479 tons, 28.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 414 tons, 12.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.6 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 25 tons
- Above deck: 250 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
16 448 lbs / 7 461 Kg = 19.0 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 4.2 ft / 1.3 m
Roll period: 15.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 74 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.73
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.47
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.636 / 0.640
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.98 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 23.62 ft / 7.20 m, 19.03 ft / 5.80 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 19.03 ft / 5.80 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 17.69 ft / 5.39 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 104.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 114.4 %
Waterplane Area: 28 833 Square feet or 2 679 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 143 lbs/sq ft or 699 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.54
- Overall: 1.00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Jef, any specific reason you stick to 100% coal instead of dropping it to 90% coal and 10% oil?
QuoteJef, any specific reason you stick to 100% coal instead of dropping it to 90% coal and 10% oil?
No specific reason, just an option not choosed in SS...
Jef
I like this one :)
BB6, France BB6 laid down 1904 (Engine 1902)
Displacement:
16 375 t light; 17 191 t standard; 18 630 t normal; 19 781 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(528.22 ft / 528.22 ft) x 75.46 ft x (25.72 / 27.06 ft)
(161.00 m / 161.00 m) x 23.00 m x (7.84 / 8.25 m)
Armament:
6 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.08lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
10 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
10 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
16 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 raised mounts
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 6 575 lbs / 2 983 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 344.49 ft / 105.00 m 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
Ends: 4.72" / 120 mm 164.04 ft / 50.00 m 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
19.69 ft / 6.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 344.49 ft / 105.00 m 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 10.6" / 270 mm
2nd: 1.77" / 45 mm 1.77" / 45 mm 1.77" / 45 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
5th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2.76" / 70 mm
Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10.63" / 270 mm, Aft 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 27 275 ihp / 20 347 Kw = 21.07 kts
Range 7 500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 589 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
796 - 1 036
Cost:
£1.699 million / $6.796 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 146 tons, 6.2 %
- Guns: 1 146 tons, 6.2 %
Armour: 5 560 tons, 29.8 %
- Belts: 2 888 tons, 15.5 %
- Armament: 1 007 tons, 5.4 %
- Armour Deck: 1 396 tons, 7.5 %
- Conning Towers: 268 tons, 1.4 %
Machinery: 4 092 tons, 22.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 252 tons, 28.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 255 tons, 12.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 325 tons, 1.7 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 25 tons
- On freeboard deck: 25 tons
- Above deck: 250 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18 708 lbs / 8 486 Kg = 21.6 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
Metacentric height 4.8 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 14.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 77 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.58
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.54
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.636 / 0.642
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.98 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 22.97 ft / 7.00 m, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 17.81 ft / 5.43 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124.2 %
Waterplane Area: 30 143 Square feet or 2 800 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 132 lbs/sq ft or 644 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.48
- Overall: 1.00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
I kinda like the latest one.
When did France research a 12"/45? Per the gun table, that is a 1900 level gun. I see France was researching the tech in 1902H2, but we dont have record of doing rolls for it. Therefor, the 305/45 under research in 1902/H2 is not yet legal for France. Please get the mods tech roll information so we can clear this up.
Just for the fun.
This one is too big...
BB6, France BB6 laid down 1904 (Engine 1902)
Displacement:
18 825 t light; 19 851 t standard; 21 407 t normal; 22 652 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(528.22 ft / 528.22 ft) x 78.74 ft x (28.32 / 29.71 ft)
(161.00 m / 161.00 m) x 24.00 m x (8.63 / 9.06 m)
Armament:
6 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.07lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
3 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
12 - 7.64" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 224.68lbs / 101.91kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
12 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
16 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 raised mounts
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 8 427 lbs / 3 822 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 367.45 ft / 112.00 m 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
Ends: 4.72" / 120 mm 131.23 ft / 40.00 m 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
29.53 ft / 9.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 367.45 ft / 112.00 m 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 10.6" / 270 mm
2nd: 5.71" / 145 mm 2.95" / 75 mm 5.71" / 145 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
5th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2.76" / 70 mm
Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10.63" / 270 mm, Aft 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 29 738 ihp / 22 184 Kw = 21.07 kts
Range 7 500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 801 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
884 - 1 150
Cost:
£2.049 million / $8.198 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 777 tons, 8.3 %
- Guns: 1 777 tons, 8.3 %
Armour: 6 552 tons, 30.6 %
- Belts: 2 980 tons, 13.9 %
- Armament: 1 821 tons, 8.5 %
- Armour Deck: 1 457 tons, 6.8 %
- Conning Towers: 294 tons, 1.4 %
Machinery: 4 461 tons, 20.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 710 tons, 26.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 582 tons, 12.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 325 tons, 1.5 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 25 tons
- On freeboard deck: 25 tons
- Above deck: 250 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19 348 lbs / 8 776 Kg = 22.3 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 15.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.67
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.41
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.636 / 0.642
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.71 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.98 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 22.97 ft / 7.00 m, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 17.81 ft / 5.43 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 116.7 %
Waterplane Area: 31 454 Square feet or 2 922 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 144 lbs/sq ft or 704 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.55
- Overall: 1.00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
20000shp - 6x164 - 24kts
CP1905, France scout cruiser laid down 1905
Displacement:
3 650 t light; 3 812 t standard; 4 440 t normal; 4 942 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(393.70 ft / 393.70 ft) x 45.93 ft x (14.94 / 16.30 ft)
(120.00 m / 120.00 m) x 14.00 m x (4.56 / 4.97 m)
Armament:
2 - 6.46" / 164 mm 45.0 cal guns - 135.73lbs / 61.57kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 6.46" / 164 mm 45.0 cal guns - 135.73lbs / 61.57kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 200 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 866 lbs / 393 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 351.05 ft / 107.00 m 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 137 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm - 1.57" / 40 mm
2nd: 1.57" / 40 mm - 1.57" / 40 mm
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
5th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1.18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1.97" / 50 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 20 000 shp / 14 920 Kw = 24.00 kts
Range 6 700nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 130 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
271 - 353
Cost:
£0.437 million / $1.750 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 224 tons, 5.0 %
- Guns: 224 tons, 5.0 %
Armour: 468 tons, 10.5 %
- Belts: 172 tons, 3.9 %
- Armament: 46 tons, 1.0 %
- Armour Deck: 239 tons, 5.4 %
- Conning Tower: 11 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 1 645 tons, 37.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 277 tons, 28.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 790 tons, 17.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 35 tons, 0.8 %
- On freeboard deck: 10 tons
- Above deck: 25 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
2 714 lbs / 1 231 Kg = 20.2 x 6.5 " / 164 mm shells or 0.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.32
Metacentric height 2.6 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 12.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.35
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.575 / 0.587
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.57 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16.00 %, 14.76 ft / 4.50 m, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m
- Forward deck: 32.00 %, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m
- Aft deck: 37.00 %, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00 %, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m
- Average freeboard: 12.08 ft / 3.68 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 136.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 108.0 %
Waterplane Area: 12 920 Square feet or 1 200 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 74 lbs/sq ft or 359 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.17
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
République & Démocratie, France BB6 class laid down 1904 (Engine 1902)
Displacement:
17 000 t light; 17 871 t standard; 19 246 t normal; 20 346 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(528.22 ft / 528.22 ft) x 65.62 ft (Bulges 78.74 ft) x (25.87 / 27.35 ft)
(161.00 m / 161.00 m) x 20.00 m (Bulges 24.00 m) x (7.89 / 8.34 m)
Armament:
6 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.07lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
1 raised mount aft - superfiring
6 - 7.64" / 194 mm 45.0 cal guns - 224.67lbs / 101.91kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
6 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
16 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 raised mounts
8 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 7 079 lbs / 3 211 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 347.77 ft / 106.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 4.72" / 120 mm 131.23 ft / 40.00 m 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
49.21 ft / 15.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 347.77 ft / 106.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 10.6" / 270 mm
2nd: 7.09" / 180 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 7.09" / 180 mm
4th: 0.98" / 25 mm - 0.98" / 25 mm
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2.76" / 70 mm
Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10.63" / 270 mm, Aft 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 27 515 ihp / 20 526 Kw = 21.00 kts
Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 476 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
816 - 1 062
Cost:
£1.812 million / $7.250 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 398 tons, 7.3 %
- Guns: 1 398 tons, 7.3 %
Armour: 5 553 tons, 28.9 %
- Belts: 2 572 tons, 13.4 %
- Armament: 1 504 tons, 7.8 %
- Armour Deck: 1 203 tons, 6.3 %
- Conning Towers: 274 tons, 1.4 %
Machinery: 4 128 tons, 21.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 621 tons, 29.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 246 tons, 11.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.6 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 25 tons
- Above deck: 250 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
17 689 lbs / 8 024 Kg = 20.4 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 17.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.67
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.49
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.626 / 0.626
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.71 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.98 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 24.93 ft / 7.60 m, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Forward deck: 40.00 %, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Aft deck: 20.00 %, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard: 18.16 ft / 5.54 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 111.4 %
Waterplane Area: 25 970 Square feet or 2 413 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 148 lbs/sq ft or 725 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.47
- Overall: 1.00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
SSs to test with early turbines:
3 shafts => 15 000 shp
2 shafts => 10 000 shp
1 shaft => 5000 shp
...
20000shp - 6x140 - 24.14kts
CP1905, France scout cruiser laid down 1905
Displacement:
3 520 t light; 3 654 t standard; 4 268 t normal; 4 760 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(393.70 ft / 393.70 ft) x 45.93 ft x (14.37 / 15.70 ft)
(120.00 m / 120.00 m) x 14.00 m x (4.38 / 4.78 m)
Armament:
2 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 200 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 559 lbs / 253 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 351.05 ft / 107.00 m 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 137 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm - 1.57" / 40 mm
2nd: 1.57" / 40 mm - 1.57" / 40 mm
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
5th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1.18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1.97" / 50 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 20 000 shp / 14 920 Kw = 24.14 kts
Range 6 700nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 106 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
263 - 343
Cost:
£0.405 million / $1.619 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 144 tons, 3.4 %
- Guns: 144 tons, 3.4 %
Armour: 465 tons, 10.9 %
- Belts: 172 tons, 4.0 %
- Armament: 43 tons, 1.0 %
- Armour Deck: 239 tons, 5.6 %
- Conning Tower: 11 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 1 649 tons, 38.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 227 tons, 28.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 748 tons, 17.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 35 tons, 0.8 %
- On freeboard deck: 10 tons
- Above deck: 25 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
2 742 lbs / 1 244 Kg = 32.8 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 0.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.38
Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 11.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.22
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.05
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.575 / 0.587
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.57 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16.00 %, 14.76 ft / 4.50 m, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m
- Forward deck: 32.00 %, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m
- Aft deck: 37.00 %, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00 %, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m, 11.89 ft / 3.63 m
- Average freeboard: 12.08 ft / 3.68 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 136.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 111.3 %
Waterplane Area: 12 920 Square feet or 1 200 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 69 lbs/sq ft or 338 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.11
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
20000shp - 6x100 - 25.35kts
CP1905, France scout cruiser laid down 1905
Displacement:
2 725 t light; 2 807 t standard; 3 340 t normal; 3 765 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(393.70 ft / 393.70 ft) x 39.37 ft x (14.36 / 15.77 ft)
(120.00 m / 120.00 m) x 12.00 m x (4.38 / 4.81 m)
Armament:
2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 185 lbs / 84 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.79" / 20 mm - 1.57" / 40 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - 1.57" / 40 mm
5th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 20 000 shp / 14 920 Kw = 25.35 kts
Range 6 700nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 958 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
219 - 285
Cost:
£0.340 million / $1.360 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 51 tons, 1.5 %
- Guns: 51 tons, 1.5 %
Armour: 28 tons, 0.8 %
- Armament: 28 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 1 619 tons, 48.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 991 tons, 29.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 614 tons, 18.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 35 tons, 1.0 %
- On freeboard deck: 10 tons
- Above deck: 25 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1 606 lbs / 728 Kg = 52.6 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.42
Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 11.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.13
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.14
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.539
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16.00 %, 15.75 ft / 4.80 m, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Forward deck: 32.00 %, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m, 12.14 ft / 3.70 m
- Aft deck: 37.00 %, 12.14 ft / 3.70 m, 12.14 ft / 3.70 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00 %, 12.14 ft / 3.70 m, 12.14 ft / 3.70 m
- Average freeboard: 12.62 ft / 3.85 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 161.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 113.7 %
Waterplane Area: 10 568 Square feet or 982 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 60 lbs/sq ft or 292 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.17
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Small TB made to work in short sea for patrol & escort.
TB97 to TB109, France Manche class laid down 1903 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
210 t light; 220 t standard; 235 t normal; 246 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(177.17 ft / 177.17 ft) x 19.69 ft x (5.89 / 6.08 ft)
(54.00 m / 54.00 m) x 6.00 m x (1.80 / 1.85 m)
Armament:
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1903 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal gun - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 240 per gun
Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1903 Model
1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck forward
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 0 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1903 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 39 lbs / 18 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.20" / 5 mm - -
2nd: 0.20" / 5 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2 925 ihp / 2 182 Kw = 22.00 kts
Range 1 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 26 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
29 - 38
Cost:
£0.028 million / $0.112 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 7 tons, 3.2 %
- Guns: 7 tons, 3.2 %
Armour: 1 tons, 0.6 %
- Armament: 1 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 134 tons, 56.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 55 tons, 23.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 25 tons, 10.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 13 tons, 5.5 %
- On freeboard deck: 3 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
57 lbs / 26 Kg = 4.5 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.30
Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 9.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.17
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.04
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.407
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 13.31 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 22.00 %, 9.51 ft / 2.90 m, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Aft deck: 28.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 6.89 ft / 2.10 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 6.89 ft / 2.10 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Average freeboard: 7.46 ft / 2.27 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 193.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 102.6 %
Waterplane Area: 2 147 Square feet or 199 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 25 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 16 lbs/sq ft or 78 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.42
- Overall: 0.55
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Trial speed: 27.5kts
Bonus: 5.5
The MG's need ammo. I'm guessing miscellaneous weight is for TT's and a short-range wireless set?
QuoteThe MG's need ammo. I'm guessing miscellaneous weight is for TT's and a short-range wireless set?
You'r right :)
Smaller coastal, escort, torpedo, patrol boat...
TB97 to TB109, France Manche class laid down 1903 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
185 t light; 193 t standard; 205 t normal; 215 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(164.04 ft / 164.04 ft) x 18.21 ft x (6.00 / 6.19 ft)
(50.00 m / 50.00 m) x 5.55 m x (1.83 / 1.89 m)
Armament:
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1903 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1903 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 26 lbs / 12 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2 540 ihp / 1 894 Kw = 21.50 kts
Range 900nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 22 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
26 - 35
Cost:
£0.024 million / $0.097 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 5 tons, 2.5 %
- Guns: 5 tons, 2.5 %
Armour: 4 tons, 1.9 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 1.9 %
Machinery: 117 tons, 56.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 46 tons, 22.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 20 tons, 9.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 13 tons, 6.3 %
- On freeboard deck: 3 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
48 lbs / 22 Kg = 3.8 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
Metacentric height 0.6 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 9.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.14
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.407
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.01 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.81 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 22.00 %, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Aft deck: 28.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Average freeboard: 7.07 ft / 2.16 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 190.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 91.3 %
Waterplane Area: 1 839 Square feet or 171 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 25 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 15 lbs/sq ft or 74 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.56
- Overall: 0.56
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Trial speed: 27.5kts
Bonus: 5.5
2T for 2TTx450
10T for short wireless
1T reserve
Go ahead Jef...
1912 project, surplus in the plan, an economical Dreadnought killer.
BB9, France BB9 laid down 1912
Displacement:
18 000 t light; 19 091 t standard; 20 289 t normal; 21 246 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(557.74 ft / 557.74 ft) x 85.79 ft x (24.09 / 25.03 ft)
(170.00 m / 170.00 m) x 26.15 m x (7.34 / 7.63 m)
Armament:
8 - 13.39" / 340 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1 224.01lbs / 555.20kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1912 Model
4 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 raised mount fore - superfiring
12 - 5.51" / 140 mm 40.0 cal guns - 80.24lbs / 36.40kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1912 Model
12 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
12 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1912 Model
12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1912 Model
4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 11 124 lbs / 5 046 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 364.17 ft / 111.00 m 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
Ends: 5.91" / 150 mm 183.73 ft / 56.00 m 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
9.84 ft / 3.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 364.17 ft / 111.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 11.8" / 300 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 1.97" / 50 mm 3.94" / 100 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
5th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 3.35" / 85 mm
Forecastle: 1.97" / 50 mm Quarter deck: 1.97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 11.81" / 300 mm, Aft 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 28 216 shp / 21 049 Kw = 21.00 kts
Range 7 500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 155 tons (75% coal)
Complement:
849 - 1 104
Cost:
£1.760 million / $7.040 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 861 tons, 9.2 %
- Guns: 1 861 tons, 9.2 %
Armour: 7 368 tons, 36.3 %
- Belts: 3 316 tons, 16.3 %
- Armament: 1 743 tons, 8.6 %
- Armour Deck: 2 007 tons, 9.9 %
- Conning Towers: 303 tons, 1.5 %
Machinery: 1 207 tons, 6.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 7 223 tons, 35.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 289 tons, 11.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 340 tons, 1.7 %
- Hull above water: 50 tons
- On freeboard deck: 40 tons
- Above deck: 250 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
31 584 lbs / 14 326 Kg = 26.3 x 13.4 " / 340 mm shells or 3.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 5.2 ft / 1.6 m
Roll period: 15.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.73
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.39
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.616 / 0.621
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 22.31 ft / 6.80 m, 18.37 ft / 5.60 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 18.37 ft / 5.60 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 17.41 ft / 5.31 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 63.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 134.7 %
Waterplane Area: 35 523 Square feet or 3 300 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 166 lbs/sq ft or 810 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.45
- Overall: 1.00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Misc Weight 325t:
250t fire control
25t for extra pump installation
25t for climatization
25t for long range wireless
25t reserve
Coastal Craft for patrol & escort, France, Class River - laid down 1904 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
300 t light; 316 t standard; 328 t normal; 338 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(160.76 ft / 160.76 ft) x 22.97 ft x (5.66 / 5.79 ft)
(49.00 m / 49.00 m) x 7.00 m x (1.73 / 1.77 m)
Armament:
2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 300 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 60.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 0.79" / 20 mm
Forecastle: 0.79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 0.79" / 20 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 900 ihp / 672 Kw = 15.04 kts
Range 2 000nm at 6.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 22 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
38 - 50
Cost:
£0.032 million / $0.128 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 15 tons, 4.7 %
- Guns: 15 tons, 4.7 %
Armour: 41 tons, 12.6 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 1.1 %
- Armour Deck: 38 tons, 11.5 %
Machinery: 123 tons, 37.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 104 tons, 31.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 28 tons, 8.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 16 tons, 4.9 %
- On freeboard deck: 6 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
261 lbs / 119 Kg = 8.6 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.41
Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 9.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 74 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.18
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.32
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.553
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.68 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Average freeboard: 7.35 ft / 2.24 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 135.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 76.9 %
Waterplane Area: 2 577 Square feet or 239 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 87 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 147 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 1.94
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
misc weight;
10t for short wireless
2t fot 2TT
4t reserved
Same ship but, the speed update to 18kts
Coastal Craft for patrol & escort, France River class laid down 1904 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
450 t light; 469 t standard; 485 t normal; 498 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(183.73 ft / 183.73 ft) x 22.97 ft x (7.32 / 7.47 ft)
(56.00 m / 56.00 m) x 7.00 m x (2.23 / 2.28 m)
Armament:
2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 300 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 60.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 0.79" / 20 mm
Forecastle: 0.79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 0.79" / 20 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2 200 ihp / 1 641 Kw = 18.04 kts
Range 2 000nm at 6.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 28 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
51 - 67
Cost:
£0.051 million / $0.204 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 15 tons, 3.2 %
- Guns: 15 tons, 3.2 %
Armour: 47 tons, 9.6 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0.7 %
- Armour Deck: 43 tons, 8.9 %
Machinery: 220 tons, 45.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 141 tons, 29.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 35 tons, 7.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 26 tons, 5.4 %
- On freeboard deck: 16 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
251 lbs / 114 Kg = 8.2 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 10.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.19
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.13
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.553
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 13.55 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 11.15 ft / 3.40 m, 11.15 ft / 3.40 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Average freeboard: 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 156.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 70.4 %
Waterplane Area: 2 945 Square feet or 274 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 61 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs/sq ft or 156 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 1.94
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
misc weight;
10t for short wireless
2t fot 2TT
14t reserved
Not the kind of ship I get very excited over honestly, but if france has a mission for this type, I would say they are very nice little ships. With my deployment requirements, I personally cant justify what is essentially a one mission ship. I have to build basically DDs, and use them for missions they weren't exactly intended for.
QuoteNot the kind of ship I get very excited over honestly, but if france has a mission for this type, I would say they are very nice little ships. With my deployment requirements, I personally cant justify what is essentially a one mission ship. I have to build basically DDs, and use them for missions they weren't exactly intended for.
... They are slow DDs
The weight not used for DD engines is reserved for guns, wireless, misc transport.
Rework the 300t
Coastal Craft for patrol & escort, France River class laid down 1904 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
300 t light; 316 t standard; 354 t normal; 384 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(160.76 ft / 160.76 ft) x 22.97 ft x (6.27 / 6.68 ft)
(49.00 m / 49.00 m) x 7.00 m x (1.91 / 2.04 m)
Armament:
2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 300 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 60.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 900 ihp / 672 Kw = 14.92 kts
Range 2 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 67 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
40 - 53
Cost:
£0.034 million / $0.136 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 15 tons, 4.4 %
- Guns: 15 tons, 4.4 %
Armour: 4 tons, 1.0 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 1.0 %
Machinery: 137 tons, 38.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 106 tons, 29.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 54 tons, 15.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 38 tons, 10.7 %
- On freeboard deck: 28 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
253 lbs / 115 Kg = 8.3 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.36
Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 9.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.19
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.39
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.535 / 0.544
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.68 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Average freeboard: 7.35 ft / 2.24 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 138.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 69.0 %
Waterplane Area: 2 541 Square feet or 236 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 148 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.92
- Longitudinal: 2.00
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
misc weight;
10t for short wireless
2t fot 2TT
26t reserved
Testing a DD with heavy guns
TB109 to TB129, France TB6 class laid down 1904 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
500 t light; 532 t standard; 604 t normal; 662 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 25.52 ft x (9.02 / 9.58 ft)
(70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 7.78 m x (2.75 / 2.92 m)
Armament:
3 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 120 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 279 lbs / 127 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5 000 ihp / 3 730 Kw = 22.37 kts
Range 2 800nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 130 tons (100% coal)
Complement:
60 - 79
Cost:
£0.075 million / $0.299 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 49 tons, 8.0 %
- Guns: 49 tons, 8.0 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0.5 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 313 tons, 51.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 119 tons, 19.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 104 tons, 17.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 16 tons, 2.6 %
- On freeboard deck: 16 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
146 lbs / 66 Kg = 1.7 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.41
Metacentric height 1.2 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 9.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 86 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.54
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.30
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.413
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 12.47 ft / 3.80 m, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
- Average freeboard: 9.43 ft / 2.87 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 189.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 106.2 %
Waterplane Area: 3 608 Square feet or 335 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 35 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 24 lbs/sq ft or 116 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.51
- Longitudinal: 1.45
- Overall: 0.56
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
2.4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 2.4t for 4 reloads
10 mines
Trial speed: 24.5kts
Bonus: 2.14
I like it but it's quite a bit slow.
How much faster can you get the ship if you reduce the beam so that the L:B ratio is 10:00, drop the seakeeping a bit (1.30 to ~1.21), and remove the 75mm guns?
Quote from: Logi on October 05, 2015, 05:19:34 PM
I like it but it's quite a bit slow.
How much faster can you get the ship if you reduce the beam so that the L:B ratio is 10:00, drop the seakeeping a bit (1.30 to ~1.21), and remove the 75mm guns?
I agree, see if you can get speed up. Also maybe make the Main Battery mount and hoist?
With L/B ratio 10/1 => speed increase to 22.8kts
23 kts & more could be possible by reduction of misc weight & range.
With mount & hoist : cross sectionnal down to 0.42
TB109 to TB129, France TB5 laid down 1904 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
500 t light; 529 t standard; 602 t normal; 661 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 22.97 ft x (9.99 / 10.62 ft)
(70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 7.00 m x (3.05 / 3.24 m)
Armament:
3 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 120 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 253 lbs / 115 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 5 347 ihp / 3 989 Kw = 22.80 kts
Range 2 800nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 132 tons (100% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
60 - 79
Cost:
£0.074 million / $0.296 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 44 tons, 7.2 %
- Guns: 44 tons, 7.2 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0.5 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 318 tons, 52.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 119 tons, 19.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 102 tons, 17.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 16 tons, 2.7 %
- On freeboard deck: 16 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
128 lbs / 58 Kg = 1.5 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
Metacentric height 0.8 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 10.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.88
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.43
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.413
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 74
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 12.47 ft / 3.80 m, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
- Average freeboard: 9.43 ft / 2.87 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 190.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.5 %
Waterplane Area: 3 247 Square feet or 302 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 33 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 23 lbs/sq ft or 111 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.76
- Overall: 0.57
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
2.4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 2.4t for 4 reloads
10 mines
Trial speed: 25kts
Bonus: 2.2
TB for coastal patrol & escort, France River class laid down 1904 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
300 t light; 316 t standard; 338 t normal; 355 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(183.73 ft / 183.73 ft) x 20.34 ft x (7.91 / 8.17 ft)
(56.00 m / 56.00 m) x 6.20 m x (2.41 / 2.49 m)
Armament:
2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 300 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 60.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3 000 ihp / 2 238 Kw = 21.04 kts
Range 1 200nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 39 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
39 - 51
Cost:
£0.040 million / $0.158 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 15 tons, 4.6 %
- Guns: 15 tons, 4.6 %
Armour: 4 tons, 1.1 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 1.1 %
Machinery: 177 tons, 52.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 66 tons, 19.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 38 tons, 11.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 38 tons, 11.3 %
- On freeboard deck: 28 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
76 lbs / 34 Kg = 2.5 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
Metacentric height 0.6 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 10.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.35
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.13
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.407
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.03 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 13.55 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Average freeboard: 7.65 ft / 2.33 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 182.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 72.6 %
Waterplane Area: 2 300 Square feet or 214 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 33 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 18 lbs/sq ft or 88 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.55
- Overall: 0.56
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
misc weight:
10t for short wireless
3t for3x450mm TT
25t mixed for different works:
-minesweepers / minelayers
-coal extra reserve
-troops
-materials
Trial speed:25kts
Bonus: 3.97
Probably the final SS for the 16 patrol/escort craft "River class"
Somme-Oise
Marne-Loing
Meuse-Allier
Vienne-Dordogne
Tarn-Gers
Isere-Drome
Yonne-Saone
Aube-Cher
Coastal Craft for patrol & escort, France River class laid down 1904 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
375 t light; 393 t standard; 446 t normal; 488 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(183.73 ft / 183.73 ft) x 22.97 ft x (6.73 / 7.23 ft)
(56.00 m / 56.00 m) x 7.00 m x (2.05 / 2.20 m)
Armament:
2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 300 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 60.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1 200 ihp / 895 Kw = 15.71 kts
Range 2 500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 95 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
48 - 63
Cost:
£0.043 million / $0.172 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 15 tons, 3.5 %
- Guns: 15 tons, 3.5 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.8 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 183 tons, 41.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 135 tons, 30.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 71 tons, 16.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 38 tons, 8.5 %
- On freeboard deck: 28 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
290 lbs / 131 Kg = 9.5 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 10.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 98 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.58
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.560
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 13.55 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 11.15 ft / 3.40 m, 11.15 ft / 3.40 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Average freeboard: 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 143.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 74.8 %
Waterplane Area: 2 945 Square feet or 274 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 152 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 1.87
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Misc weight:
10t for short wireless
4t for 4x450 torpedoes
24t for different works.
Minesweeper - Minelayer
Troops
Material
Coal
To have a better seaboat, for long patrol & escort, I increase freeboard & reduce slightly the speed (from 15.71 to 15.37)
Coastal Craft for patrol & escort, France River class laid down 1904 (Engine 1900)
Somme-Oise
Marne-Loing
Meuse-Allier
Vienne-Dordogne
Tarn-Gers
Isere-Drome
Yonne-Saone
Aube-Cher
Displacement:
375 t light; 393 t standard; 446 t normal; 488 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(183.73 ft / 183.73 ft) x 22.97 ft x (6.73 / 7.23 ft)
(56.00 m / 56.00 m) x 7.00 m x (2.05 / 2.20 m)
Armament:
2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 300 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 60.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1 100 ihp / 820 Kw = 15.37 kts
Range 2 500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 95 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
48 - 63
Cost:
£0.041 million / $0.165 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 15 tons, 3.5 %
- Guns: 15 tons, 3.5 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.8 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 170 tons, 38.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 147 tons, 33.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 71 tons, 16.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 38 tons, 8.5 %
- On freeboard deck: 28 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
371 lbs / 168 Kg = 12.1 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 10.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.30
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.560
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 13.55 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 11.15 ft / 3.40 m, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m
- Average freeboard: 8.92 ft / 2.72 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 134.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 90.2 %
Waterplane Area: 2 945 Square feet or 274 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs/sq ft or 154 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.90
- Longitudinal: 2.61
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Misc weight:
10t for short wireless
4t for 4x450 torpedoes
24t for different works.
Minesweeper - Minelayer
Troops
Material
Coal
Here is an adaptation for patrol & escort of the last 500t TB5 (1902).
=> on the identical hull
Engines for TB5 are 8000shp => 25.15kts
Engines for TBE6 are 4000shp => 21.1kts
Half of the boilers are removed & new tanks for coal take their places, range increase to 3800nm (2800nm for TB5)
Draught increase by 20cm for & freeboard decrease by 20cm
3x100 mm guns take the place of the 3x75mm
TBE109 to TBE120, France TBE6 laid down 1904 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
500 t light; 525 t standard; 624 t normal; 703 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 25.52 ft x (9.32 / 10.09 ft)
(70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 7.78 m x (2.84 / 3.07 m)
Armament:
3 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 118 lbs / 54 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 4 000 ihp / 2 984 Kw = 21.06 kts
Range 3 800nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 178 tons (100% coal)
Complement:
62 - 81
Cost:
£0.068 million / $0.272 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 3.5 %
- Guns: 22 tons, 3.5 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0.4 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 319 tons, 51.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 119 tons, 19.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 124 tons, 19.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 38 tons, 6.1 %
- On freeboard deck: 28 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
165 lbs / 75 Kg = 5.4 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.38
Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 10.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 93 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.23
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.33
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.416
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Average freeboard: 8.77 ft / 2.67 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 175.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.5 %
Waterplane Area: 3 608 Square feet or 335 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 46 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 22 lbs/sq ft or 106 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.53
- Longitudinal: 1.13
- Overall: 0.57
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Misc weight:
10t for short wireless
4t for 4x450 torpedoes
24t for different works.
Minesweeper - Minelayer
Troops
Material
Coal
République & Démocratie, France BB6 class laid down 1904 (Engine 1902)
Displacement:
17 500 t light; 18 416 t standard; 19 827 t normal; 20 955 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(551.18 ft / 551.18 ft) x 65.62 ft (Bulges 78.74 ft) x (25.79 / 27.25 ft)
(168.00 m / 168.00 m) x 20.00 m (Bulges 24.00 m) x (7.86 / 8.31 m)
Armament:
6 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.07lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
1 raised mount aft - superfiring
8 - 7.64" / 194 mm 50.0 cal guns - 235.84lbs / 106.98kg shells, 140 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 raised mounts
8 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 7 618 lbs / 3 455 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 364.17 ft / 111.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 4.72" / 120 mm 131.23 ft / 40.00 m 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
55.77 ft / 17.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 364.17 ft / 111.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 10.6" / 270 mm
2nd: 7.09" / 180 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 7.09" / 180 mm
4th: 0.98" / 25 mm - 0.98" / 25 mm
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2.76" / 70 mm
Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10.63" / 270 mm, Aft 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 27 549 ihp / 20 552 Kw = 21.00 kts
Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 539 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
835 - 1 086
Cost:
£1.901 million / $7.604 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 491 tons, 7.5 %
- Guns: 1 491 tons, 7.5 %
Armour: 5 623 tons, 28.4 %
- Belts: 2 674 tons, 13.5 %
- Armament: 1 422 tons, 7.2 %
- Armour Deck: 1 248 tons, 6.3 %
- Conning Towers: 280 tons, 1.4 %
Machinery: 4 133 tons, 20.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 953 tons, 30.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 327 tons, 11.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.5 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 25 tons
- Above deck: 250 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18 060 lbs / 8 192 Kg = 20.9 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 17.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.72
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.52
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.620 / 0.620
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.48 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 24.93 ft / 7.60 m, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Forward deck: 40.00 %, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Aft deck: 20.00 %, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard: 18.16 ft / 5.54 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112.9 %
Waterplane Area: 26 949 Square feet or 2 504 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 151 lbs/sq ft or 736 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.38
- Overall: 1.00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
25t for extra pumps installation
Very nice! :)
Question about the République & Démocratie, I raised the same question with Logi and I think he discovered that my reading of the rules was right, but I cant remember for sure (might want to ask). I think though you can go Mixed main battery or AQY but I don't think you can do both, so you may have to rework them a bit (ditch the Q turret or drop the 7.64s to 6" and put em in mount and hoist or casemates).
Like I said can't remember how that ruling came out, but I still read the rule the same way. Other than that very nice ships (YAY for 9' high belts)
Quote...I think though you can go Mixed main battery or AQY but I don't think you can do both, so you may have to rework them a bit (ditch the Q turret or drop the 7.64s to 6" and put em in mount and hoist or casemates).
...
You'r right , I have to choose between AQY or AY+ intermediate caliber (sup to 7"5).
So, I think that I could have AQY + intermediate 164mm (6"46) - 4 or 6T2x164
What about an A/Y arrangement with a 9.4-inch Intermediate Battery?
QuoteWhat about an A/Y arrangement with a 9.4-inch Intermediate Battery?
A kind of Danton...
BB6, France BB6 laid down 1904 (Engine 1902)
Displacement:
16 900 t light; 17 885 t standard; 19 258 t normal; 20 357 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(528.22 ft / 528.22 ft) x 72.18 ft (Bulges 75.46 ft) x (26.59 / 27.92 ft)
(161.00 m / 161.00 m) x 22.00 m (Bulges 23.00 m) x (8.10 / 8.51 m)
Armament:
4 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.07lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 9.45" / 240 mm 48.0 cal guns - 485.00lbs / 219.99kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 raised mounts
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 7 865 lbs / 3 567 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 4.72" / 120 mm 131.23 ft / 40.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
36.09 ft / 11.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 11.8" / 300 mm
2nd: 7.09" / 180 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 5.91" / 150 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
5th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2.76" / 70 mm
Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10.63" / 270 mm, Aft 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 27 800 ihp / 20 739 Kw = 21.07 kts
Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 472 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
816 - 1 062
Cost:
£1.878 million / $7.512 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 548 tons, 8.0 %
- Guns: 1 548 tons, 8.0 %
Armour: 5 383 tons, 28.0 %
- Belts: 2 544 tons, 13.2 %
- Armament: 1 229 tons, 6.4 %
- Armour Deck: 1 335 tons, 6.9 %
- Conning Towers: 274 tons, 1.4 %
Machinery: 4 170 tons, 21.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 499 tons, 28.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 358 tons, 12.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.6 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 25 tons
- Above deck: 250 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
16 703 lbs / 7 576 Kg = 19.3 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.19
Metacentric height 4.3 ft / 1.3 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.71
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.48
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.636 / 0.640
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.98 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 23.62 ft / 7.20 m, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 17.87 ft / 5.45 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 104.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 115.9 %
Waterplane Area: 28 833 Square feet or 2 679 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 144 lbs/sq ft or 701 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.55
- Overall: 1.00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Rules
Quote1891: Mixed-caliber main battery (Main+intermediary calibers), Superfiring secondaries (Restricted Axial Firing Arcs) and Stacked Main Battery turrets OR Main caliber battery in AQY. [Pick One Only]
QuoteMain guns are defined as the largest caliber carried on the ship, intermediary guns are anything between the main caliber and 155mm guns, secondaries are 80-155mm, tertiary are <79mm.
=> With AQY (3xT2x305), I couldn't use T2x164 for secondaries
République & Démocratie, France BB6 class laid down 1904 (Engine 1902)
Displacement:
16 100 t light; 16 991 t standard; 18 419 t normal; 19 561 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(528.22 ft / 528.22 ft) x 65.62 ft (Bulges 75.46 ft) x (25.84 / 27.38 ft)
(161.00 m / 161.00 m) x 20.00 m (Bulges 23.00 m) x (7.88 / 8.34 m)
Armament:
6 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.07lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
1 raised mount aft - superfiring
16 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 200 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
16 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 raised mounts
8 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 7 082 lbs / 3 212 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 347.77 ft / 106.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 4.72" / 120 mm 164.04 ft / 50.00 m 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
16.40 ft / 5.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 347.77 ft / 106.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 10.6" / 270 mm
2nd: 2.76" / 70 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 2.76" / 70 mm
4th: 0.98" / 25 mm - 0.98" / 25 mm
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2.76" / 70 mm
Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10.63" / 270 mm, Aft 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 26 800 ihp / 19 993 Kw = 21.03 kts
Range 7 500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 570 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
789 - 1 027
Cost:
£1.703 million / $6.814 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 223 tons, 6.6 %
- Guns: 1 223 tons, 6.6 %
Armour: 5 208 tons, 28.3 %
- Belts: 2 622 tons, 14.2 %
- Armament: 1 117 tons, 6.1 %
- Armour Deck: 1 203 tons, 6.5 %
- Conning Towers: 266 tons, 1.4 %
Machinery: 4 020 tons, 21.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 349 tons, 29.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 319 tons, 12.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.6 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 25 tons
- Above deck: 250 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
17 369 lbs / 7 878 Kg = 20.1 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 16.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.73
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.55
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.626 / 0.627
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.98 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 24.93 ft / 7.60 m, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Forward deck: 40.00 %, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Aft deck: 20.00 %, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard: 18.16 ft / 5.54 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 100.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 115.2 %
Waterplane Area: 25 970 Square feet or 2 413 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 141 lbs/sq ft or 690 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.51
- Overall: 1.00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
25t for extra pumps installation
Why built AQY when I could built a french VdT ???
;)
République & Démocratie, France BB6 class laid down 1905 (Engine 1902)
Displacement:
17 650 t light; 18 636 t standard; 20 155 t normal; 21 370 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(551.18 ft / 551.18 ft) x 72.18 ft (Bulges 78.74 ft) x (25.96 / 27.39 ft)
(168.00 m / 168.00 m) x 22.00 m (Bulges 24.00 m) x (7.91 / 8.35 m)
Armament:
4 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.07lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.08lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Twin mounts on sides alterned amidships
12 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 200 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
12 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1904 Model
16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 raised mounts
8 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 8 490 lbs / 3 851 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 364.17 ft / 111.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 4.72" / 120 mm 164.04 ft / 50.00 m 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
22.97 ft / 7.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 364.17 ft / 111.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 10.6" / 270 mm
2nd: 11.8" / 300 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 10.6" / 270 mm
3rd: 2.76" / 70 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 2.76" / 70 mm
4th: 0.98" / 25 mm - 0.98" / 25 mm
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2.76" / 70 mm
Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10.63" / 270 mm, Aft 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 28 000 ihp / 20 888 Kw = 21.03 kts
Range 7 500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 734 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
845 - 1 099
Cost:
£1.930 million / $7.719 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 482 tons, 7.4 %
- Guns: 1 482 tons, 7.4 %
Armour: 5 741 tons, 28.5 %
- Belts: 2 750 tons, 13.6 %
- Armament: 1 327 tons, 6.6 %
- Armour Deck: 1 381 tons, 6.9 %
- Conning Towers: 283 tons, 1.4 %
Machinery: 4 200 tons, 20.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 926 tons, 29.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 505 tons, 12.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.5 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 25 tons
- Above deck: 250 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18 303 lbs / 8 302 Kg = 21.1 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.25
Metacentric height 4.6 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 15.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.56
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.45
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.626 / 0.629
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.48 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 24.93 ft / 7.60 m, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Forward deck: 20.00 %, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Aft deck: 40.00 %, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard: 16.59 ft / 5.06 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 105.8 %
Waterplane Area: 29 810 Square feet or 2 769 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 147 lbs/sq ft or 719 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.34
- Overall: 1.00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
25t for extra pumps installation
Are the unarmored ends intentional?
Otherwise seems like a sturdy ship.
QuoteAre the unarmored ends intentional?
It's in memory of the unarmored (& broken) Bismarck stern...
Jef ;)
This class could be reclassed with Aviso Torpilleur:
Interresting for patrols, escorts & colonial works.
QuoteHere is an adaptation for patrol & escort of the last 500t TB5 (1902).
=> on the identical hull
Engines for TB5 are 8000shp => 25.15kts
Engines for TBE6 are 4000shp => 21.1kts
Half of the boilers are removed & new tanks for coal take their places, range increase to 3800nm (2800nm for TB5)
Draught increase by 20cm & freeboard decrease by 20cm
3x100 mm guns take the place of the 3x75mm
TBE109 to TBE120, France TBE6 laid down 1904 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
500 t light; 525 t standard; 624 t normal; 703 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 25.52 ft x (9.32 / 10.09 ft)
(70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 7.78 m x (2.84 / 3.07 m)
Armament:
3 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 118 lbs / 54 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 4 000 ihp / 2 984 Kw = 21.06 kts
Range 3 800nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 178 tons (100% coal)
Complement:
62 - 81
Cost:
£0.068 million / $0.272 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 3.5 %
- Guns: 22 tons, 3.5 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0.4 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 319 tons, 51.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 119 tons, 19.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 124 tons, 19.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 38 tons, 6.1 %
- On freeboard deck: 28 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
165 lbs / 75 Kg = 5.4 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.38
Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 10.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 93 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.23
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.33
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.416
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Average freeboard: 8.77 ft / 2.67 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 175.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.5 %
Waterplane Area: 3 608 Square feet or 335 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 46 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 22 lbs/sq ft or 106 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.53
- Longitudinal: 1.13
- Overall: 0.57
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Misc weight:
10t for short wireless
4t for 4x450 torpedoes
24t for different works.
Minesweeper - Minelayer
Troops
Material
Coal
I like that a lot! Reasonable, economical and useful everywhere.
P1 to P12, France PB1 laid down 1904 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
333 t light; 350 t standard; 404 t normal; 448 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(183.73 ft / 183.73 ft) x 21.00 ft x (7.33 / 7.95 ft)
(56.00 m / 56.00 m) x 6.40 m x (2.24 / 2.42 m)
Armament:
2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 220 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 5 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 1 shaft, 930 ihp / 694 Kw = 15.08 kts
Range 2 800nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 98 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
44 - 58
Cost:
£0.036 million / $0.145 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 16 tons, 4.0 %
- Guns: 16 tons, 4.0 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.9 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0.9 %
Machinery: 144 tons, 35.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 132 tons, 32.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 71 tons, 17.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 38 tons, 9.4 %
- On freeboard deck: 28 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
336 lbs / 153 Kg = 11.0 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 10.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.41
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.511
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 13.55 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25.00 %, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m, 9.51 ft / 2.90 m
- Forward deck: 25.00 %, 9.51 ft / 2.90 m, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m, 6.89 ft / 2.10 m
- Average freeboard: 8.54 ft / 2.60 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 126.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 86.8 %
Waterplane Area: 2 471 Square feet or 230 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 148 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.89
- Longitudinal: 2.80
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Misc Weight:
10t for short wireless
4t for 4x450 torpedoes
24t for different works;
Minesweeper - Minelayer
Material
Coal
Troops
P1-P15, France 200t coastal patrol craft laid down 1904 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
200 t light; 209 t standard; 220 t normal; 230 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(131.23 ft / 131.23 ft) x 16.40 ft x (7.17 / 7.40 ft)
(40.00 m / 40.00 m) x 5.00 m x (2.19 / 2.26 m)
Armament:
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 5 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1904 Model
4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 26 lbs / 12 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 740 ihp / 552 Kw = 15.11 kts
Range 800nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 21 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
28 - 37
Cost:
£0.022 million / $0.087 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 5 tons, 2.3 %
- Guns: 5 tons, 2.3 %
Armour: 2 tons, 0.8 %
- Armament: 2 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 95 tons, 42.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 69 tons, 31.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 20 tons, 9.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 30 tons, 13.6 %
- On freeboard deck: 20 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
127 lbs / 58 Kg = 9.9 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.08
Metacentric height 0.4 ft / 0.1 m
Roll period: 11.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 94 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.30
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.89
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.505
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 11.46 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Average freeboard: 7.60 ft / 2.32 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 146.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 72.0 %
Waterplane Area: 1 434 Square feet or 133 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 81 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 24 lbs/sq ft or 115 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.84
- Longitudinal: 5.10
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Misc Weight:
10t for short wireless
4t for 4x450 torpedoes
20t for different works;
Minesweeper - Minelayer
Material
Coal
Troops
Pretty low freeboard; gonna be tough to do stuff in bad weather of any kind.
PB, TB, Aviso...
200t, 250t, 333t, 375t, 500t...
I have not made the choice for 1904H1...
:( ??? :P :-[ :-\
I feel like 333t is the best design: Building three of them rounds nicely to 1 BP used, they have longer range than the smaller variants which makes it much more flexible, and they aren't as expensive to build/maintain as the 500t design which is built to DD/TB standards.
Last calculation give:
4x500t TB
2x250t SS
14x250t for coastal patrols (Dunkerque- Brest-Toulon)
with 3BP & 3.73$
After much calculations (SS)
PB & TB 200t-250t-291t-333t-375t-500t
I retain Logi suggestion
333t is the best choice.
This class is a kind of "La Lance" aviso torpilleur.
Jef ;)
Some countries built strong destroyers with 100mm or bigger guns.
4 TB5 class are in the 1904 plan.
France update the TB5 to TB5-2
3x75 => 3x100
4x47 => remove
misc weight: 16t => 14t
TB109 to TB112, France TB5-2 laid down 1902 (Engine 1900)
Displacement:
500 t light; 518 t standard; 586 t normal; 641 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 25.52 ft x (8.75 / 9.28 ft)
(70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 7.78 m x (2.67 / 2.83 m)
Armament:
3 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 120 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 92 lbs / 42 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 000 ihp / 5 968 Kw = 25.16 kts
Range 2 800nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 123 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
59 - 77
Cost:
£0.070 million / $0.279 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 17 tons, 2.8 %
- Guns: 17 tons, 2.8 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0.5 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 341 tons, 58.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 126 tons, 21.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 86 tons, 14.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 14 tons, 2.4 %
- On freeboard deck: 14 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
136 lbs / 62 Kg = 4.5 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.50
Metacentric height 1.3 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 9.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.15
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.412
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 12.47 ft / 3.80 m, 10.66 ft / 3.25 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 10.66 ft / 3.25 m, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
- Average freeboard: 9.47 ft / 2.89 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 195.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 108.4 %
Waterplane Area: 3 608 Square feet or 335 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 23 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 22 lbs/sq ft or 105 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.36
- Overall: 0.55
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
2.4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 2.4t for 4 reloads
8 mines
Trial speed: 28kts
Bonus: 2.85
Testing a kind of Contre-Torpilleur
CP1905, France scout cruiser laid down 1906 (Engine 1905)
Displacement:
2 769 t light; 2 875 t standard; 3 272 t normal; 3 590 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(393.70 ft / 393.70 ft) x 39.37 ft x (14.78 / 15.85 ft)
(120.00 m / 120.00 m) x 12.00 m x (4.50 / 4.83 m)
Armament:
4 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 180 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1906 Model
4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 220 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 390 lbs / 177 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
5th: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 20 000 shp / 14 920 Kw = 25.50 kts
Range 5 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 715 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
216 - 281
Cost:
£0.353 million / $1.412 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 99 tons, 3.0 %
- Guns: 99 tons, 3.0 %
Armour: 21 tons, 0.6 %
- Armament: 21 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 1 582 tons, 48.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 021 tons, 31.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 503 tons, 15.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 47 tons, 1.4 %
- On freeboard deck: 22 tons
- Above deck: 25 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1 383 lbs / 627 Kg = 16.5 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.28
Metacentric height 1.9 ft / 0.6 m
Roll period: 11.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.36
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.09
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.511
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 15.09 ft / 4.60 m, 12.47 ft / 3.80 m
- Forward deck: 32.00 %, 12.47 ft / 3.80 m, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
- Aft deck: 33.00 %, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00 %, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
- Average freeboard: 12.26 ft / 3.74 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 166.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 109.0 %
Waterplane Area: 10 327 Square feet or 959 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 88 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 64 lbs/sq ft or 314 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.23
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Very nice, if protection is a bit on the thin side. ::)
I'm guessing miscellaneous weight includes a wireless set and torpedo tubes?
CP6 class, France Scout Cruiser laid down 1906 (Engine 1905)
Displacement:
3 680 t light; 3 815 t standard; 4 471 t normal; 4 996 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(393.70 ft / 393.70 ft) x 43.73 ft x (17.65 / 19.23 ft)
(120.00 m / 120.00 m) x 13.33 m x (5.38 / 5.86 m)
Armament:
4 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 160 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1906 Model
4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 230 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1906 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1906 Model
4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 461 lbs / 209 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 331.36 ft / 101.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 129 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.18" / 30 mm - 1.57" / 40 mm
2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm - 1.57" / 40 mm
3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1.97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 1.97" / 50 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 20 000 shp / 14 920 Kw = 24.18 kts
Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 180 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
273 - 355
Cost:
£0.404 million / $1.615 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 125 tons, 2.8 %
- Guns: 125 tons, 2.8 %
Armour: 605 tons, 13.5 %
- Belts: 207 tons, 4.6 %
- Armament: 38 tons, 0.9 %
- Armour Deck: 348 tons, 7.8 %
- Conning Tower: 12 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 1 650 tons, 36.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 232 tons, 27.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 791 tons, 17.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 69 tons, 1.5 %
- On freeboard deck: 44 tons
- Above deck: 25 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
2 905 lbs / 1 318 Kg = 34.7 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 0.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.25
Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 12.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 79 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.28
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.515 / 0.528
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 18.37 ft / 5.60 m, 15.09 ft / 4.60 m
- Forward deck: 35.00 %, 15.09 ft / 4.60 m, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00 %, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m, 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
- Average freeboard: 13.30 ft / 4.06 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 129.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103.0 %
Waterplane Area: 11 631 Square feet or 1 081 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 102 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 68 lbs/sq ft or 333 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.45
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Misc weight:
25t - short wireless
4t - torpedoes
40t - mines
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armor 605t
machinery 1650t
Following the battle of Gran Manan and damages caused by torpedoes on the battleships line.
"Ministère de la Guerre" ask to add torpedoes protection to the new 17650t battleships LD in 1905,
a 25mm bulkhead protection is add in the hull.
République & Démocratie, France BB6 class laid down 1905 (Engine 1902)
Displacement:
17 650 t light; 18 636 t standard; 20 155 t normal; 21 370 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(551.18 ft / 551.18 ft) x 72.18 ft (Bulges 78.74 ft) x (25.96 / 27.39 ft)
(168.00 m / 168.00 m) x 22.00 m (Bulges 24.00 m) x (7.91 / 8.35 m)
Armament:
4 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.08lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.08lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Twin mounts on sides amidships
12 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 200 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
12 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 raised mounts
8 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 8 490 lbs / 3 851 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 364.17 ft / 111.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 4.72" / 120 mm 164.04 ft / 50.00 m 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
22.97 ft / 7.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 364.17 ft / 111.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
0.98" / 25 mm 364.17 ft / 111.00 m 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72.18 ft / 22.00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 10.6" / 270 mm
2nd: 11.8" / 300 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 10.6" / 270 mm
3rd: 2.76" / 70 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 2.76" / 70 mm
4th: 0.98" / 25 mm - 0.98" / 25 mm
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2.76" / 70 mm
Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10.63" / 270 mm, Aft 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 28 000 ihp / 20 888 Kw = 21.03 kts
Range 7 500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 734 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
845 - 1 099
Cost:
£1.930 million / $7.719 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 482 tons, 7.4 %
- Guns: 1 482 tons, 7.4 %
Armour: 6 084 tons, 30.2 %
- Belts: 2 746 tons, 13.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 348 tons, 1.7 %
- Armament: 1 327 tons, 6.6 %
- Armour Deck: 1 381 tons, 6.9 %
- Conning Towers: 283 tons, 1.4 %
Machinery: 4 200 tons, 20.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 583 tons, 27.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 505 tons, 12.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.5 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 25 tons
- Above deck: 250 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18 387 lbs / 8 340 Kg = 21.2 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
Metacentric height 4.6 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.56
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.45
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.626 / 0.629
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.48 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 24.93 ft / 7.60 m, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Forward deck: 20.00 %, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m, 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Aft deck: 40.00 %, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard: 16.59 ft / 5.06 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 105.8 %
Waterplane Area: 29 810 Square feet or 2 769 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 93 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 147 lbs/sq ft or 719 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.34
- Overall: 1.00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
25t for extra pumps installation
Any form of TDS requires the 1905 BB/AC Architecture tech.
HA that was what I was about to post... although my post was much more involved and (shockingly) diplomatic.
Quote from: snip on June 30, 2016, 05:39:56 PM
Any form of TDS requires the 1905 BB/AC Architecture tech.
Quote1905 (Engine 1902)
This is also quite strange. There is no tech that gives engine year 1902, only 1900 or 1905.
République & Démocratie, France BB6 class laid down 1905
Displacement:
17 700 t light; 18 686 t standard; 20 143 t normal; 21 309 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(551.18 ft / 551.18 ft) x 72.18 ft (Bulges 78.74 ft) x (25.34 / 26.69 ft)
(168.00 m / 168.00 m) x 22.00 m (Bulges 24.00 m) x (7.72 / 8.14 m)
Armament:
8 - 12.01" / 305 mm 45.0 cal guns - 873.07lbs / 396.02kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 raised mount fore - superfiring
12 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 200 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1905 Model
16 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
16 raised mounts
8 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 8 490 lbs / 3 851 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 357.61 ft / 109.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: 4.72" / 120 mm 183.73 ft / 56.00 m 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
9.84 ft / 3.00 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 357.61 ft / 109.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11.8" / 300 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 10.6" / 270 mm
3rd: 2.76" / 70 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 2.76" / 70 mm
4th: 0.98" / 25 mm - 0.98" / 25 mm
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2.76" / 70 mm
Forecastle: 1.57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1.57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 10.63" / 270 mm, Aft 7.09" / 180 mm
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 28 000 ihp / 20 888 Kw = 21.00 kts
Range 7 500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 623 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
845 - 1 099
Cost:
£1.906 million / $7.624 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 482 tons, 7.4 %
- Guns: 1 482 tons, 7.4 %
Armour: 5 893 tons, 29.3 %
- Belts: 2 744 tons, 13.6 %
- Armament: 1 466 tons, 7.3 %
- Armour Deck: 1 400 tons, 6.9 %
- Conning Towers: 283 tons, 1.4 %
Machinery: 4 018 tons, 19.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 007 tons, 29.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 443 tons, 12.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 1.5 %
- Hull below water: 25 tons
- Hull above water: 25 tons
- Above deck: 250 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19 309 lbs / 8 758 Kg = 22.3 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 4.2 ft / 1.3 m
Roll period: 16.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.73
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.50
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.641 / 0.644
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.48 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 22.97 ft / 7.00 m, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 19.69 ft / 6.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 17.81 ft / 5.43 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 98.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 117.4 %
Waterplane Area: 30 225 Square feet or 2 808 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 146 lbs/sq ft or 715 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.34
- Overall: 1.00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
25t for extra pumps installation
An additionnal 280t gunboat class made to protect colonies
She use the same engines as the 333t Patrol boat nearly finish
Note the short draught for coastal & estuaries operations
P13-P24, France Patrouilleur 280t laid down 1905
Displacement:
280 t light; 292 t standard; 316 t normal; 335 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(144.36 ft / 144.36 ft) x 21.06 ft x (5.91 / 6.20 ft)
(44.00 m / 44.00 m) x 6.42 m x (1.80 / 1.89 m)
Armament:
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 400 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 26 lbs / 12 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0.24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 930 ihp / 694 Kw = 14.98 kts
Range 1 400nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 43 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
36 - 48
Cost:
£0.029 million / $0.115 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 5 tons, 1.7 %
- Guns: 5 tons, 1.7 %
Armour: 6 tons, 2.0 %
- Armament: 6 tons, 2.0 %
Machinery: 124 tons, 39.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 89 tons, 28.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 36 tons, 11.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 55 tons, 17.4 %
- On freeboard deck: 55 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
234 lbs / 106 Kg = 18.2 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.24
Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 10.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.08
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.12
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.616 / 0.622
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.85 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.01 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25.00 %, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Forward deck: 25.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Aft deck: 25.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Quarter deck: 25.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 5.91 ft / 1.80 m
- Average freeboard: 6.92 ft / 2.11 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 133.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 80.0 %
Waterplane Area: 2 257 Square feet or 210 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 92 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 27 lbs/sq ft or 133 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 1.96
- Overall: 1.00
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Misc weight 55t:
10t for short wireless
2T for 2 TTx450
43t reserved
for minelayer
troop
material
additional coal for long cruise
Always for colonies work:
a kind of light 1905 DE
P2, France Torpedo Escort Craft laid down 1905
Displacement:
250 t light; 269 t standard; 291 t normal; 309 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(164.04 ft / 164.04 ft) x 22.97 ft x (5.15 / 5.39 ft)
(50.00 m / 50.00 m) x 7.00 m x (1.57 / 1.64 m)
Armament:
3 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 500 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.20lbs / 1.45kg shells, 600 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
Weight of broadside 45 lbs / 21 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.20" / 5 mm - -
2nd: 0.20" / 5 mm - -
3rd: 0.20" / 5 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 1 703 ihp / 1 271 Kw = 18.00 kts
Range 1 400nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 40 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
34 - 45
Cost:
£0.030 million / $0.122 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 9 tons, 3.1 %
- Guns: 9 tons, 3.1 %
Armour: 4 tons, 1.5 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 1.5 %
Machinery: 138 tons, 47.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 57 tons, 19.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 41 tons, 14.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 42 tons, 14.4 %
- On freeboard deck: 42 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
100 lbs / 45 Kg = 7.8 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.38
Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 9.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.532
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.14 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.81 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 11.15 ft / 3.40 m, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m, 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
- Average freeboard: 7.83 ft / 2.39 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 164.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 108.1 %
Waterplane Area: 2 569 Square feet or 239 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 52 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 16 lbs/sq ft or 80 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.14
- Overall: 0.55
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
misc weight 42t
2t for 2x450 torpedoes
40 t for different accomodations
troops
coal
mines
new guns
you need to make it 2 knots faster to qualify for TB/DD architecture.
QuoteDestroyer and TB architecture - Top speed no less than 20kts, cross-sectional hull strength > 0.49
P2, France 20kts Torpedo Boat laid down 1905
Speed could be update to 21kts
Displacement:
300 t light; 314 t standard; 338 t normal; 357 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(164.04 ft / 164.04 ft) x 21.87 ft (Bulges 21.88 ft) x (6.94 / 7.22 ft)
(50.00 m / 50.00 m) x 6.67 m (Bulges 6.67 m) x (2.12 / 2.20 m)
Armament:
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 400 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.20lbs / 1.45kg shells, 500 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 5 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 32 lbs / 15 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2 775 ihp / 2 070 Kw = 20.00 kts
Range 1 400nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 43 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
39 - 51
Cost:
£0.037 million / $0.146 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 7 tons, 1.9 %
- Guns: 7 tons, 1.9 %
Armour: 2 tons, 0.5 %
- Armament: 2 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 173 tons, 51.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 63 tons, 18.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 38 tons, 11.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 55 tons, 16.3 %
- On freeboard deck: 35 tons
- Above deck: 20 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
88 lbs / 40 Kg = 6.9 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
Metacentric height 0.7 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 11.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.475 / 0.482
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.81 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25.00 %, 11.15 ft / 3.40 m, 8.69 ft / 2.65 m
- Forward deck: 25.00 %, 8.69 ft / 2.65 m, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
- Aft deck: 25.00 %, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Quarter deck: 25.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Average freeboard: 8.18 ft / 2.49 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 172.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 90.4 %
Waterplane Area: 2 337 Square feet or 217 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 39 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 17 lbs/sq ft or 82 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.64
- Overall: 0.56
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
misc weight 55t
2t for 2x450 torpedoes
53 t for different accomodations
troops
coal
mines
new guns
TB113 to TB124, France TB6 colonial-325t laid down 1905
Displacement:
325 t light; 339 t standard; 363 t normal; 383 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(183.73 ft / 183.73 ft) x 22.97 ft x (6.41 / 6.67 ft)
(56.00 m / 56.00 m) x 7.00 m x (1.96 / 2.03 m)
Armament:
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 350 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.19lbs / 1.45kg shells, 450 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 500 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
Weight of broadside 32 lbs / 15 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
2nd: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
3rd: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3 320 ihp / 2 477 Kw = 21.00 kts
Range 1 400nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 44 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
41 - 54
Cost:
£0.040 million / $0.160 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 7 tons, 1.8 %
- Guns: 7 tons, 1.8 %
Armour: 6 tons, 1.7 %
- Armament: 6 tons, 1.7 %
Machinery: 192 tons, 52.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 74 tons, 20.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 39 tons, 10.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 46 tons, 12.7 %
- On freeboard deck: 26 tons
- Above deck: 20 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
100 lbs / 45 Kg = 7.8 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.26
Metacentric height 0.8 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 10.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.09
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.470 / 0.477
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 13.55 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25.00 %, 11.15 ft / 3.40 m, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
- Forward deck: 25.00 %, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Aft deck: 25.00 %, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Quarter deck: 25.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Average freeboard: 8.40 ft / 2.56 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 176.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103.8 %
Waterplane Area: 2 737 Square feet or 254 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 36 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 17 lbs/sq ft or 85 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.33
- Overall: 0.55
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Trial speed: 24.5kts
Bonus: 3.5
Misc weight 46t:
2t for 2x450mm torpedoes
44t for different accomodations:
TT reloads
materials
troops
coal
mines
new guns
...
Rework the 325t DD for escort work
TB113 to TB124, France TB6 escort-325t laid down 1905
Displacement:
325 t light; 343 t standard; 387 t normal; 422 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(196.85 ft / 196.85 ft) x 21.87 ft x (6.53 / 6.97 ft)
(60.00 m / 60.00 m) x 6.67 m x (1.99 / 2.12 m)
Armament:
3 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 400 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.20lbs / 1.45kg shells, 450 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
Weight of broadside 45 lbs / 21 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
2nd: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
3rd: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3 400 ihp / 2 536 Kw = 21.17 kts
Range 2 500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 80 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
43 - 56
Cost:
£0.043 million / $0.171 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 9 tons, 2.3 %
- Guns: 9 tons, 2.3 %
Armour: 7 tons, 1.8 %
- Armament: 7 tons, 1.8 %
Machinery: 206 tons, 53.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 78 tons, 20.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 62 tons, 16.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 24 tons, 6.2 %
- On freeboard deck: 24 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
105 lbs / 48 Kg = 8.2 x 3.0 " / 75 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.42
Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 9.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 77 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.16
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.16
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.482 / 0.493
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14.03 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25.00 %, 11.15 ft / 3.40 m, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
- Forward deck: 25.00 %, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Aft deck: 25.00 %, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Quarter deck: 25.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Average freeboard: 8.40 ft / 2.56 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 180.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 102.1 %
Waterplane Area: 2 822 Square feet or 262 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 38 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 17 lbs/sq ft or 85 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.24
- Overall: 0.55
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Trial speed: 24.5kts
Bonus: 3.5
Misc weight 24t
2t for 2x450mm torpedoes
22t for different accomodations
TT reloads
materials
troops
coal
mines
new guns
...
Identical with 3x100
TB113 to TB124, France TB6 escort-325t laid down 1905
Displacement:
325 t light; 350 t standard; 395 t normal; 431 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(196.85 ft / 196.85 ft) x 21.87 ft x (6.53 / 6.97 ft)
(60.00 m / 60.00 m) x 6.67 m x (1.99 / 2.12 m)
Armament:
3 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.20lbs / 1.45kg shells, 450 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
Weight of broadside 99 lbs / 45 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
3rd: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3 400 ihp / 2 536 Kw = 21.07 kts
Range 2 500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 81 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
43 - 57
Cost:
£0.045 million / $0.181 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 18 tons, 4.6 %
- Guns: 18 tons, 4.6 %
Armour: 8 tons, 1.9 %
- Armament: 8 tons, 1.9 %
Machinery: 207 tons, 52.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 78 tons, 19.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 70 tons, 17.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 14 tons, 3.5 %
- On freeboard deck: 14 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
102 lbs / 46 Kg = 3.4 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.44
Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 9.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.34
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.15
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.492 / 0.503
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14.03 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25.00 %, 11.15 ft / 3.40 m, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
- Forward deck: 25.00 %, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Aft deck: 25.00 %, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Quarter deck: 25.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Average freeboard: 8.40 ft / 2.56 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 184.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103.0 %
Waterplane Area: 2 848 Square feet or 265 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 38 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 18 lbs/sq ft or 90 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.28
- Overall: 0.55
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Trial speed: 24.5kts
Bonus: 3.5
Misc weight 14t
2t for 2x450mm torpedoes
12t for different accomodations
TT reloads
materials
troops
coal
mines
new guns
...
With the same 8000 shp engines used on the last TB5 & TB5-2,
TB6 had 4 x100 guns on a thinner hull
This class could be built in place of the obsolet 1892-125t TB
TB113 to TB124, France TB6 laid down 1905
Displacement:
500 t light; 521 t standard; 585 t normal; 636 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 22.97 ft x (9.15 / 9.69 ft)
(70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 7.00 m x (2.79 / 2.95 m)
Armament:
2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 140 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
1 raised mount
2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 130 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 123 lbs / 56 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 000 ihp / 5 968 Kw = 25.17 kts
Range 2 800nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 114 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
59 - 77
Cost:
£0.070 million / $0.281 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 3.8 %
- Guns: 22 tons, 3.8 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0.6 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 334 tons, 57.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 121 tons, 20.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 85 tons, 14.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 20 tons, 3.4 %
- On freeboard deck: 20 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
121 lbs / 55 Kg = 4.0 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33
Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 10.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.36
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.04
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.424 / 0.435
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25.00 %, 12.47 ft / 3.80 m, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
- Forward deck: 25.00 %, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m, 8.86 ft / 2.70 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 8.86 ft / 2.70 m, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m
- Average freeboard: 9.29 ft / 2.83 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 194.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.4 %
Waterplane Area: 3 298 Square feet or 306 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 25 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 104 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.51
- Overall: 0.55
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
1 division = 4 DDs
2.4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 2.4t for 4 reloads
- 16 mines for 2DDs
- 10t for short wireless for 2 DDs
Trial speed: 28kts
Bonus: 2.83
It seems a pretty good little vessel.
I'll confess it considerably outclasses the 350t Italian DD's I was considering, so if you go forward with it, I'll need to go with a 500t class as well.
I have a little concern with the 4x 100mm + 2x twin TT. Each of those guns has to be about 5m for clearance, you do have 1 superimposed, and then those TT will run 6-7m long and need some clearance at both ends to turn. So you need 30-35m of length just to clear your weapons. Then you need bow and stern clearance, room for superstructure, boats, and funnels.
The comparable vessel seems to be the RN's River class of 1904, but wiki only has pictures, no deckplan to see how things fit in.
Oh, and I'm puzzled by your torpedoes. 2.4tons for 4 mean... 0.6tons each?
our torpedo tech puts them either at 0.5 tons or 1 ton.
Torpedo Technologies
1890: 800m@26kts range, 50kg warhead (-1 dam.), compressed air 0.5t, 16" dia.
1890: 1200@26, 400@35, 100kg warhead (+0 dam.), compressed air 0.5t, 16"
1899: 3000@26, 1500@30, 100kg warhead(+0 dam.), early wet heater 1t, 18"
1905: 5000@26, 2200@35, 100kg warhead, imp. wet heater, 1t, 18"
I could use turbines techno for 1905H2. So, with TE, this class is just a study.
I prefer Torpedo / Escort /Patrol / colonial gunboat
1905 - 325t/356t - 21kts - TE - 2800nm - 3x100+2x75 - 4TTx450 (1t )
I like this one :)
P13 to P24, France TB Escort-356t laid down 1905
Displacement:
356 t light; 379 t standard; 432 t normal; 474 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(213.25 ft / 213.25 ft) x 22.97 ft x (6.25 / 6.71 ft)
(65.00 m / 65.00 m) x 7.00 m x (1.91 / 2.04 m)
Armament:
3 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.99lbs / 5.89kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
Weight of broadside 118 lbs / 54 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
3rd: 0.31" / 8 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 3 400 ihp / 2 536 Kw = 20.99 kts
Range 2 800nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 95 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
46 - 61
Cost:
£0.049 million / $0.197 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 5.0 %
- Guns: 22 tons, 5.0 %
Armour: 8 tons, 1.8 %
- Armament: 8 tons, 1.8 %
Machinery: 222 tons, 51.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 85 tons, 19.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 76 tons, 17.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 20 tons, 4.6 %
- On freeboard deck: 20 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
117 lbs / 53 Kg = 3.8 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.43
Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 9.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.34
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.15
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.494 / 0.506
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.29 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14.60 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25.00 %, 11.15 ft / 3.40 m, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
- Forward deck: 25.00 %, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Aft deck: 25.00 %, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Quarter deck: 25.00 %, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m, 7.22 ft / 2.20 m
- Average freeboard: 8.40 ft / 2.56 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 180.5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 109.8 %
Waterplane Area: 3 245 Square feet or 302 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 41 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 19 lbs/sq ft or 92 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.00
- Overall: 0.53
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Trial speed: 24.5kts
Bonus: 3.49
Misc weight 20t
4t for 4x450mm torpedoes
16t for different accomodations
TT reloads
materials
troops
coal
mines
new guns
...
... Or the last TB5-2 - 500t
=> to have 16 x 500t TB with 8000 shp TE
TB113 to TB116, France TB5-2 laid down 1905
Displacement:
500 t light; 518 t standard; 586 t normal; 640 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 25.52 ft x (8.74 / 9.27 ft)
(70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 7.78 m x (2.67 / 2.82 m)
Armament:
3 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 120 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 92 lbs / 42 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 000 ihp / 5 968 Kw = 25.17 kts
Range 3 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 122 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
59 - 77
Cost:
£0.069 million / $0.277 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 17 tons, 2.8 %
- Guns: 17 tons, 2.8 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0.5 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 337 tons, 57.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 126 tons, 21.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 85 tons, 14.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 18 tons, 3.1 %
- On freeboard deck: 18 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
138 lbs / 63 Kg = 4.5 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.46
Metacentric height 1.2 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 9.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.15
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.412
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 12.47 ft / 3.80 m, 10.83 ft / 3.30 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 10.83 ft / 3.30 m, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 9.19 ft / 2.80 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
- Average freeboard: 9.51 ft / 2.90 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 193.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 108.9 %
Waterplane Area: 3 608 Square feet or 335 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 25 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 22 lbs/sq ft or 105 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.38
- Overall: 0.55
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 4t for 4 reloads
10 mines
Trial speed: 28kts
Bonus: 2.85
TB113 to TB121, France TBE-490t laid down 1905
Displacement:
490 t light; 510 t standard; 574 t normal; 624 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 22.97 ft x (9.51 / 10.15 ft)
(70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 7.00 m x (2.90 / 3.09 m)
Armament:
3 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 120 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 118 lbs / 54 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 7 600 ihp / 5 670 Kw = 25.02 kts
Range 2 800nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 114 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
58 - 76
Cost:
£0.069 million / $0.275 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 3.8 %
- Guns: 22 tons, 3.8 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.8 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0.8 %
Machinery: 327 tons, 57.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 123 tons, 21.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 84 tons, 14.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 14 tons, 2.4 %
- On freeboard deck: 14 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
125 lbs / 57 Kg = 4.1 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.40
Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 9.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.33
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.12
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.408
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25.00 %, 12.47 ft / 3.80 m, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m
- Forward deck: 25.00 %, 10.50 ft / 3.20 m, 8.86 ft / 2.70 m
- Aft deck: 25.00 %, 8.86 ft / 2.70 m, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
- Quarter deck: 25.00 %, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m
- Average freeboard: 9.26 ft / 2.82 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 193.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 96.2 %
Waterplane Area: 3 247 Square feet or 302 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 25 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 22 lbs/sq ft or 106 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.63
- Overall: 0.57
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 4t for 4 reloads
10 mines
Trial speed: 27.5kts
Bonus: 2.48
First Contre Torpilleurs built by France
This class is made to protect the battleline vs TBs attack
with 4x100 & 4TT & 3000nm range.
They use the French classic 4x2000shp TE engines developed since 1902
These engines are reliable & efficient.
They are used on TB5 class, TB5-2 & now CT1
CT1-CT8, France CT1 class laid down 1905H1
Displacement:
495 t light; 515 t standard; 583 t normal; 638 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 22.97 ft x (9.68 / 10.27 ft)
(70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 7.00 m x (2.95 / 3.13 m)
Armament:
4 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 120 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 raised mount fore- superfiring
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
Weight of broadside 123 lbs / 56 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 000 ihp / 5 968 Kw = 25.26 kts
Range 3 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 123 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
59 - 77
Cost:
£0.070 million / $0.281 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 3.8 %
- Guns: 22 tons, 3.8 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.6 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 334 tons, 57.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 119 tons, 20.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 88 tons, 15.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 18 tons, 2.7 %
- On freeboard deck: 8 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
112 lbs / 51 Kg = 3.7 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.30
Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 10.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.34
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.05
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.412
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25.00 %, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m, 12.47 ft / 3.80 m
- Forward deck: 25.00 %, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Aft deck: 25.00 %, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m
- Quarter deck: 25.00 %, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m
- Average freeboard: 9.09 ft / 2.77 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 194.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 84.3 %
Waterplane Area: 3 247 Square feet or 302 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 25 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 104 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.53
- Overall: 0.56
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 4t for 4 reloads
10t for short wireless
Trial speed: 28kts
Bonus: 2.74
Same CT built with turbines techno in 1905H2
With turbines, speed increase from 25.2 to 26.2Kts ... :-\
CT1-CT8, France CT1 laid down 1905
Displacement:
500 t light; 520 t standard; 605 t normal; 674 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(252.62 ft / 252.62 ft) x 25.26 ft x (8.30 / 8.91 ft)
(77.00 m / 77.00 m) x 7.70 m x (2.53 / 2.72 m)
Armament:
4 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 120 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
Weight of broadside 123 lbs / 56 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9 045 shp / 6 748 Kw = 26.20 kts
Range 3 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 154 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
60 - 79
Cost:
£0.069 million / $0.275 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 3.7 %
- Guns: 22 tons, 3.7 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.6 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0.6 %
Machinery: 323 tons, 53.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 133 tons, 22.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 106 tons, 17.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 18 tons, 3.0 %
- On freeboard deck: 8 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
146 lbs / 66 Kg = 4.8 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.36
Metacentric height 1.1 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 10.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.25
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.02
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.415
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.89 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25.00 %, 13.78 ft / 4.20 m, 12.47 ft / 3.80 m
- Forward deck: 25.00 %, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Aft deck: 25.00 %, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Quarter deck: 25.00 %, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Average freeboard: 9.44 ft / 2.88 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 181.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 103.3 %
Waterplane Area: 3 928 Square feet or 365 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 39 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 22 lbs/sq ft or 105 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.14
- Overall: 0.54
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 4t for 4 reloads
10t for short wireless
Trial speed: 28.5kts
Bonus: 2.3
Based on the TB4 class (380t),
TB113 to TB120, France TB6-400t laid down 1905
Displacement:
400 t light; 417 t standard; 476 t normal; 522 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(223.10 ft / 223.10 ft) x 24.78 ft x (7.53 / 8.01 ft)
(68.00 m / 68.00 m) x 7.55 m x (2.30 / 2.44 m)
Armament:
2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.77lbs / 13.96kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 12.98lbs / 5.89kg shells, 179 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck forward
2 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 000 ihp / 4 476 Kw = 24.16 kts
Range 2 950nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 105 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
50 - 66
Cost:
£0.056 million / $0.225 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 16 tons, 3.4 %
- Guns: 16 tons, 3.4 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0.7 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 270 tons, 56.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 102 tons, 21.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 76 tons, 15.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 8 tons, 1.7 %
- On freeboard deck: 8 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
116 lbs / 52 Kg = 3.8 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.55
Metacentric height 1.3 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 9.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.14
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.400 / 0.413
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.01 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14.94 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 12.47 ft / 3.80 m, 11.32 ft / 3.45 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 8.53 ft / 2.60 m, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
- Aft deck: 30.00 %, 8.20 ft / 2.50 m, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m
- Quarter deck: 20.00 %, 7.87 ft / 2.40 m, 7.55 ft / 2.30 m
- Average freeboard: 8.82 ft / 2.69 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 192.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 93.0 %
Waterplane Area: 3 403 Square feet or 316 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 27 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 97 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 1.16
- Overall: 0.54
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Trial speed: 27.5kts
Bonus: 3.31
Misc weight: 8T => 4TTx450 + 4 reloads
for memory
12 DE x 356t or
10 DE x 428t or
8 DE x 495t + 326t
TB113 to TB124, France TB6 laid down 1905
Displacement:
425 t light; 448 t standard; 510 t normal; 560 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229,66 ft / 229,66 ft) x 22,97 ft x (8,46 / 9,00 ft)
(70,00 m / 70,00 m) x 7,00 m x (2,58 / 2,74 m)
Armament:
3 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,78lbs / 13,96kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,99lbs / 5,89kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck forward
2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 76,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 118 lbs / 54 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 000 ihp / 4 476 Kw = 24,07 kts
Range 3 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 113 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
53 - 69
Cost:
£0,060 million / $0,242 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 4,2 %
- Guns: 22 tons, 4,2 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,9 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 284 tons, 55,7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 98 tons, 19,3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 86 tons, 16,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 16 tons, 3,1 %
- On freeboard deck: 16 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
103 lbs / 47 Kg = 3,4 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,40
Metacentric height 1,0 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 9,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,30
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,413
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15,15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 19,00 %, 12,47 ft / 3,80 m, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m
- Forward deck: 25,00 %, 7,55 ft / 2,30 m, 7,55 ft / 2,30 m
- Aft deck: 31,00 %, 7,55 ft / 2,30 m, 7,22 ft / 2,20 m
- Quarter deck: 25,00 %, 7,22 ft / 2,20 m, 7,22 ft / 2,20 m
- Average freeboard: 8,20 ft / 2,50 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 191,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 87,0 %
Waterplane Area: 3 247 Square feet or 302 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 28 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 97 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,04
- Overall: 0,53
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 4t for 4 reloads
8 mines
Trial speed: 27kts
Bonus: 3.02
CT1-CT8, France CT1 laid down 1905
Displacement:
495 t light; 515 t standard; 583 t normal; 638 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229,66 ft / 229,66 ft) x 22,97 ft x (9,68 / 10,27 ft)
(70,00 m / 70,00 m) x 7,00 m x (2,95 / 3,13 m)
Armament:
3 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,78lbs / 13,96kg shells, 120 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,98lbs / 5,89kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 76,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
Weight of broadside 118 lbs / 54 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8 000 ihp / 5 968 Kw = 25,26 kts
Range 3 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 123 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
59 - 77
Cost:
£0,070 million / $0,280 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 3,7 %
- Guns: 22 tons, 3,7 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,8 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,8 %
Machinery: 334 tons, 57,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 117 tons, 20,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 89 tons, 15,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 18 tons, 3,1 %
- On freeboard deck: 8 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
110 lbs / 50 Kg = 3,6 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,30
Metacentric height 0,9 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 10,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,32
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,412
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15,15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25,00 %, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m
- Forward deck: 25,00 %, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 7,87 ft / 2,40 m
- Aft deck: 25,00 %, 7,87 ft / 2,40 m, 7,55 ft / 2,30 m
- Quarter deck: 25,00 %, 7,55 ft / 2,30 m, 7,55 ft / 2,30 m
- Average freeboard: 8,96 ft / 2,73 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 194,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 82,5 %
Waterplane Area: 3 247 Square feet or 302 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 25 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 103 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,45
- Overall: 0,56
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 4t for 4 reloads
10t for short wireless
Trial speed: 28kts
Bonus: 2.74
TorpedoGunBoat
TGB, France TGB laid down 1905
Displacement:
270 t light; 286 t standard; 334 t normal; 373 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(196,85 ft / 196,85 ft) x 20,77 ft x (7,15 / 7,69 ft)
(60,00 m / 60,00 m) x 6,33 m x (2,18 / 2,34 m)
Armament:
2 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,98lbs / 5,89kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 76,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,20" / 5 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 2 843 ihp / 2 121 Kw = 21,00 kts
Range 3 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 86 tons (90% coal)
Complement:
38 - 50
Cost:
£0,039 million / $0,154 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 16 tons, 4,8 %
- Guns: 16 tons, 4,8 %
Armour: 1 tons, 0,3 %
- Armament: 1 tons, 0,3 %
Machinery: 177 tons, 52,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 70 tons, 20,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 64 tons, 19,3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 6 tons, 1,8 %
- On freeboard deck: 6 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
85 lbs / 39 Kg = 2,8 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,42
Metacentric height 0,9 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 9,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,35
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,42
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,415
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,48 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14,03 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25,00 %, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
- Forward deck: 25,00 %, 7,87 ft / 2,40 m, 7,55 ft / 2,30 m
- Aft deck: 25,00 %, 7,55 ft / 2,30 m, 7,22 ft / 2,20 m
- Quarter deck: 25,00 %, 7,22 ft / 2,20 m, 6,89 ft / 2,10 m
- Average freeboard: 8,13 ft / 2,48 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 184,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 94,8 %
Waterplane Area: 2 516 Square feet or 234 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 39 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 18 lbs/sq ft or 86 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,48
- Overall: 0,56
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Trial speed: 25.5kts
Bonus: 4.5
470t is the typical displacement alowed in my 1905H1 report for 4 DE
I use 3/4 of the 8000shp TE of the last 500t class
TB113 to TB124, France TB5 laid down 1905
Displacement:
470 t light; 495 t standard; 561 t normal; 614 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229,66 ft / 229,66 ft) x 22,97 ft x (8,78 / 9,34 ft)
(70,00 m / 70,00 m) x 7,00 m x (2,68 / 2,85 m)
Armament:
3 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,78lbs / 13,96kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,98lbs / 5,89kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, aft deck forward
2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 76,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 118 lbs / 54 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 000 ihp / 4 476 Kw = 23,65 kts
Range 3 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 119 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
56 - 74
Cost:
£0,065 million / $0,262 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 3,8 %
- Guns: 22 tons, 3,8 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,8 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,8 %
Machinery: 308 tons, 55,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 115 tons, 20,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 91 tons, 16,3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 20 tons, 3,6 %
- On freeboard deck: 20 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
126 lbs / 57 Kg = 4,1 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,33
Metacentric height 0,9 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 10,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 86 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,40
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,25
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,424 / 0,436
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15,15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25,00 %, 12,47 ft / 3,80 m, 10,50 ft / 3,20 m
- Forward deck: 25,00 %, 10,50 ft / 3,20 m, 8,86 ft / 2,70 m
- Aft deck: 30,00 %, 8,86 ft / 2,70 m, 7,87 ft / 2,40 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 7,87 ft / 2,40 m, 7,55 ft / 2,30 m
- Average freeboard: 9,29 ft / 2,83 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 188,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 100,5 %
Waterplane Area: 3 298 Square feet or 306 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 31 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 100 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,48
- Overall: 0,55
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Misc weight: 20t
4t for 4 TT x 450
4t for 4 TT reloads
12t for:
coal
materials
mines
...
Trial speed: 26.5kts
Bonus: 2.85
Built to be used in european waters...
TB113 to TB120, France TB6-400t laid down 1905
Displacement:
400 t light; 419 t standard; 459 t normal; 490 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(216,54 ft / 216,54 ft) x 24,05 ft x (7,71 / 8,06 ft)
(66,00 m / 66,00 m) x 7,33 m x (2,35 / 2,46 m)
Armament:
2 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,77lbs / 13,96kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,98lbs / 5,89kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 76,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 000 ihp / 4 476 Kw = 24,20 kts
Range 2 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 71 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
49 - 64
Cost:
£0,055 million / $0,219 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 16 tons, 3,5 %
- Guns: 16 tons, 3,5 %
Armour: 6 tons, 1,2 %
- Armament: 6 tons, 1,2 %
Machinery: 260 tons, 56,7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 100 tons, 21,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 59 tons, 12,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 18 tons, 3,9 %
- On freeboard deck: 18 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
108 lbs / 49 Kg = 3,5 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,42
Metacentric height 1,1 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 9,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,18
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,409
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 14,72 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25,00 %, 10,66 ft / 3,25 m, 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 8,69 ft / 2,65 m, 8,37 ft / 2,55 m
- Aft deck: 20,00 %, 8,37 ft / 2,55 m, 8,04 ft / 2,45 m
- Quarter deck: 25,00 %, 8,04 ft / 2,45 m, 7,71 ft / 2,35 m
- Average freeboard: 8,83 ft / 2,69 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 193,2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 104,3 %
Waterplane Area: 3 205 Square feet or 298 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 26 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 98 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,33
- Overall: 0,55
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Trial speed: 27.5kts
Bonus: 3.3
Misc Weight: 18t
4t for 4 TTx450
4t for 4 TT reload
10t for 10 mines
TB113 to TB124, France TB6 laid down 1905
Displacement:
440 t light; 462 t standard; 525 t normal; 576 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229,66 ft / 229,66 ft) x 23,43 ft x (8,55 / 9,08 ft)
(70,00 m / 70,00 m) x 7,14 m x (2,61 / 2,77 m)
Armament:
2 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,78lbs / 13,96kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,99lbs / 5,89kg shells, 300 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 76,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 88 lbs / 40 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 000 ihp / 4 476 Kw = 23,95 kts
Range 3 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 114 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
54 - 71
Cost:
£0,061 million / $0,243 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 16 tons, 3,1 %
- Guns: 16 tons, 3,1 %
Armour: 6 tons, 1,1 %
- Armament: 6 tons, 1,1 %
Machinery: 292 tons, 55,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 100 tons, 19,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 85 tons, 16,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 26 tons, 4,9 %
- On freeboard deck: 16 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
111 lbs / 51 Kg = 3,7 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,38
Metacentric height 1,0 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 9,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,17
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,413
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,80 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15,15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25,00 %, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m, 10,17 ft / 3,10 m
- Forward deck: 25,00 %, 8,20 ft / 2,50 m, 7,87 ft / 2,40 m
- Aft deck: 25,00 %, 7,87 ft / 2,40 m, 7,22 ft / 2,20 m
- Quarter deck: 25,00 %, 7,22 ft / 2,20 m, 6,89 ft / 2,10 m
- Average freeboard: 8,30 ft / 2,53 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 188,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 91,0 %
Waterplane Area: 3 312 Square feet or 308 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 29 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 19 lbs/sq ft or 95 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,03
- Overall: 0,53
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
misc weight: 26t
10t for short wireless
4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 4t for 4 reloads
8 mines
Trial speed: 27kts
Bonus: 3.05
TB113 to TB120, France TB5 laid down 1905
Displacement:
425 t light; 448 t standard; 511 t normal; 561 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229,66 ft / 229,66 ft) x 22,97 ft x (8,47 / 9,01 ft)
(70,00 m / 70,00 m) x 7,00 m x (2,58 / 2,75 m)
Armament:
3 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,78lbs / 13,96kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,99lbs / 5,89kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, forward deck aft
2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 76,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 118 lbs / 54 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 000 ihp / 4 476 Kw = 24,07 kts
Range 3 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 113 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
53 - 69
Cost:
£0,061 million / $0,242 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 4,2 %
- Guns: 22 tons, 4,2 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,9 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 284 tons, 55,7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 98 tons, 19,3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 86 tons, 16,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 16 tons, 3,1 %
- On freeboard deck: 16 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
103 lbs / 47 Kg = 3,4 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,40
Metacentric height 1,0 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 9,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,30
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,413
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15,15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 19,00 %, 12,47 ft / 3,80 m, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m
- Forward deck: 25,00 %, 7,55 ft / 2,30 m, 7,55 ft / 2,30 m
- Aft deck: 31,00 %, 7,55 ft / 2,30 m, 7,22 ft / 2,20 m
- Quarter deck: 25,00 %, 7,22 ft / 2,20 m, 7,22 ft / 2,20 m
- Average freeboard: 8,20 ft / 2,50 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 191,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 87,0 %
Waterplane Area: 3 247 Square feet or 302 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 28 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 20 lbs/sq ft or 97 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,04
- Overall: 0,53
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 4t for 4 reloads
8 mines
Trial speed: 27kts
Bonus: 3.02
Testing a 27kts DD for Channel work
TB121 to TB124, France TB7 - Channel class laid down 1905
Displacement:
460 t light; 483 t standard; 511 t normal; 532 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(229,66 ft / 229,66 ft) x 22,97 ft x (8,47 / 8,71 ft)
(70,00 m / 70,00 m) x 7,00 m x (2,58 / 2,65 m)
Armament:
3 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,78lbs / 13,96kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 12,99lbs / 5,89kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, forward deck aft
2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 76,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 118 lbs / 54 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 9 800 shp / 7 311 Kw = 27,05 kts
Range 1 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 49 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
53 - 69
Cost:
£0,061 million / $0,245 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 22 tons, 4,2 %
- Guns: 22 tons, 4,2 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,9 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 281 tons, 55,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 131 tons, 25,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 50 tons, 9,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 22 tons, 4,3 %
- On freeboard deck: 12 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
122 lbs / 55 Kg = 4,0 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15
Metacentric height 0,7 ft / 0,2 m
Roll period: 11,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,44
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,406
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15,15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 19,00 %, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m
- Forward deck: 25,00 %, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
- Aft deck: 31,00 %, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 8,53 ft / 2,60 m
- Quarter deck: 25,00 %, 8,53 ft / 2,60 m, 8,53 ft / 2,60 m
- Average freeboard: 9,87 ft / 3,01 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 189,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 114,0 %
Waterplane Area: 3 247 Square feet or 302 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 30 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 23 lbs/sq ft or 110 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 2,04
- Overall: 0,57
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Adequate accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
10t for short wireless
4 tons for 4 torpedoes
8 mines
Trial speed: 30kts
Bonus: 2.95
Testing a 500t class - 27kts
TB124 to TB131, France TB7 - Mediterranée class laid down 1905
Displacement:
500 t light; 521 t standard; 577 t normal; 622 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(255,91 ft / 255,91 ft) x 25,59 ft x (7,71 / 8,10 ft)
(78,00 m / 78,00 m) x 7,80 m x (2,35 / 2,47 m)
Armament:
3 - 3,94" / 100 mm 45,0 cal guns - 30,78lbs / 13,96kg shells, 180 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 76,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1905 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck centre
Weight of broadside 92 lbs / 42 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10 000 shp / 7 460 Kw = 27,07 kts
Range 2 000nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 101 tons (90% coal)
Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery
Complement:
58 - 76
Cost:
£0,066 million / $0,265 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 17 tons, 2,9 %
- Guns: 17 tons, 2,9 %
Armour: 3 tons, 0,5 %
- Armament: 3 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 317 tons, 54,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 146 tons, 25,3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 77 tons, 13,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 18 tons, 3,1 %
- On freeboard deck: 8 tons
- Above deck: 10 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
154 lbs / 70 Kg = 5,1 x 3,9 " / 100 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,31
Metacentric height 1,0 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 10,5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,23
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,410
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 16,00 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 19,00 %, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m
- Forward deck: 25,00 %, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
- Aft deck: 31,00 %, 9,84 ft / 3,00 m, 8,53 ft / 2,60 m
- Quarter deck: 25,00 %, 8,53 ft / 2,60 m, 8,53 ft / 2,60 m
- Average freeboard: 9,87 ft / 3,01 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 185,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 129,4 %
Waterplane Area: 4 031 Square feet or 375 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 34 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 22 lbs/sq ft or 108 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,28
- Overall: 0,54
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
10t for short wireless
4 tons for 4 torpedoes + 4 tons for 4 reloads
Trial speed: 29.5kts
Bonus: 2.43