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Title: Avisos Torpilleurs
Post by: Jefgte on July 09, 2014, 05:36:31 PM
Avisos Torpilleur are built for colonial work.

AT1 to AT4, France AT1 laid down 1891 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   1 250 t light; 1 298 t standard; 1 428 t normal; 1 531 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 32.81 ft x (12.63 / 13.34 ft)
   (70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 10.00 m  x (3.85 / 4.07 m)

Armament:
      3 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1891 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      1 raised mount
      4 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 8.02lbs / 3.64kg shells, 500 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1891 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 124 lbs / 56 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 15.0" / 380 mm, 14.96 ft / 4.56 m torpedoes - 0.278 t each, 1.111 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 170 ihp / 4 603 Kw = 20.15 kts
   Range 2 500nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 233 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   115 - 150

Cost:
   £0.163 million / $0.652 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 22 tons, 1.6 %
      - Guns: 20 tons, 1.4 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 6 tons, 0.4 %
      - Armament: 6 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 810 tons, 56.7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 400 tons, 28.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 177 tons, 12.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 12 tons, 0.8 %
      - On freeboard deck: 12 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     524 lbs / 238 Kg = 17.2 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.66
   Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 9.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.08
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.533
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  9.09 ft / 2.77 m,  11.71 ft / 3.57 m
      - Forward deck:   8.00 %,  16.31 ft / 4.97 m,  16.31 ft / 4.97 m
      - Aft deck:   62.00 %,  9.09 ft / 2.77 m,  9.09 ft / 2.77 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.09 ft / 2.77 m,  9.09 ft / 2.77 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.90 ft / 3.02 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 187.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 81.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 5 137 Square feet or 477 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 58 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 50 lbs/sq ft or 243 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.11
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Title: Re: Avisos Torpilleurs
Post by: Jefgte on July 09, 2014, 05:37:41 PM
AT5 to AT8, France AT2 laid down 1894 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   1 275 t light; 1 323 t standard; 1 469 t normal; 1 586 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 33.73 ft x (12.64 / 13.42 ft)
   (70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 10.28 m  x (3.85 / 4.09 m)

Armament:
      3 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1894 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      1 raised mount
      4 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 8.02lbs / 3.64kg shells, 500 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1894 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 124 lbs / 56 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 15.0" / 380 mm, 14.96 ft / 4.56 m torpedoes - 0.311 t each, 1.246 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 334 ihp / 4 725 Kw = 20.17 kts
   Range 2 780nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 262 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   118 - 154

Cost:
   £0.168 million / $0.671 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 23 tons, 1.5 %
      - Guns: 20 tons, 1.4 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.2 %
   Armour: 6 tons, 0.4 %
      - Armament: 6 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 837 tons, 57.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 397 tons, 27.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 194 tons, 13.2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 12 tons, 0.8 %
      - On freeboard deck: 12 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     544 lbs / 247 Kg = 17.8 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.73
   Metacentric height 2.4 ft / 0.7 m
   Roll period: 9.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.07
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.534
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.81 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  9.06 ft / 2.76 m,  11.68 ft / 3.56 m
      - Forward deck:   8.00 %,  16.27 ft / 4.96 m,  16.27 ft / 4.96 m
      - Aft deck:   62.00 %,  9.06 ft / 2.76 m,  9.06 ft / 2.76 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.06 ft / 2.76 m,  9.06 ft / 2.76 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.87 ft / 3.01 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 188.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 81.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 5 281 Square feet or 491 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 58 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 49 lbs/sq ft or 238 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.10
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Title: Re: Avisos Torpilleurs
Post by: Jefgte on July 09, 2014, 05:38:20 PM
AT9 to AT12, France AT3 laid down 1896 (Engine 1890)

Displacement:
   1 300 t light; 1 350 t standard; 1 509 t normal; 1 636 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.66 ft / 229.66 ft) x 34.12 ft x (12.84 / 13.67 ft)
   (70.00 m / 70.00 m) x 10.40 m  x (3.91 / 4.17 m)

Armament:
      3 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      1 raised mount
      4 - 2.56" / 65.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 8.02lbs / 3.64kg shells, 500 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 124 lbs / 56 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 17.72 ft / 5.40 m torpedoes - 0.542 t each, 2.168 t total
   In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 6 443 ihp / 4 807 Kw = 20.16 kts
   Range 3 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 287 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   120 - 157

Cost:
   £0.172 million / $0.688 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 25 tons, 1.6 %
      - Guns: 20 tons, 1.3 %
      - Weapons: 4 tons, 0.3 %
   Armour: 6 tons, 0.4 %
      - Armament: 6 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 861 tons, 57.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 397 tons, 26.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 209 tons, 13.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 12 tons, 0.8 %
      - On freeboard deck: 12 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     557 lbs / 253 Kg = 18.2 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.75
   Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 9.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.06
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.525 / 0.535
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6.73 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Forward deck:   8.00 %,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m
      - Aft deck:   62.00 %,  9.19 ft / 2.80 m,  9.19 ft / 2.80 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  9.19 ft / 2.80 m,  9.19 ft / 2.80 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.97 ft / 3.04 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 188.8 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 79.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 5 343 Square feet or 496 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 59 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 48 lbs/sq ft or 235 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.91
      - Longitudinal: 2.15
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Title: Re: Avisos Torpilleurs
Post by: Jefgte on July 09, 2014, 05:43:21 PM
"Ministère de la Guerre" decide to have 7000nm fleet range for Aviso Torpilleur.
Displacement increase to 3000t with about 30% reserved for the coal.

AT13 to AT20, France AT4 laid down 1899 (Engine 1900)

Displacement:
   3 000 t light; 3 108 t standard; 3 640 t normal; 4 066 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (393.70 ft / 393.70 ft) x 45.93 ft x (13.68 / 14.90 ft)
   (120.00 m / 120.00 m) x 14.00 m  x (4.17 / 4.54 m)

Armament:
      4 - 5.51" / 140 mm 45.0 cal guns - 84.44lbs / 38.30kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 200 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
      Weight of broadside 399 lbs / 181 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 15.75 ft / 4.80 m torpedoes - 0.538 t each, 1.076 t total
   submerged bow & stern tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 15.75 ft / 4.80 m torpedoes - 0.538 t each, 1.076 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 12 000 ihp / 8 952 Kw = 21.88 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 958 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   233 - 304

Cost:
   £0.380 million / $1.521 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 64 tons, 1.8 %
      - Guns: 61 tons, 1.7 %
      - Weapons: 3 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 10 tons, 0.3 %
      - Armament: 10 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 1 830 tons, 50.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 056 tons, 29.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 640 tons, 17.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 1.1 %
      - Hull above water: 4 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 18 tons
      - Above deck: 18 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1 853 lbs / 840 Kg = 22.1 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 2.00
   Metacentric height 4.7 ft / 1.4 m
   Roll period: 8.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.06
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.45

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.515 / 0.528
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.57 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m,  13.12 ft / 4.00 m
      - Forward deck:   8.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Aft deck:   62.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m,  10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.36 ft / 3.46 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 169.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 111.2 %
   Waterplane Area: 12 215 Square feet or 1 135 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 62 lbs/sq ft or 302 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 1.00
      - Longitudinal: 1.01
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily