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Title: Croiseurs Protégés - Protected Cruisers
Post by: Jefgte on July 08, 2014, 05:16:58 PM
After the 1960t cruisers of the Troude class (Troude, Cosmao, Lalande) , a bigger type was choosed to work near the battleline.

Danjoult class, France CP1 laid down 1891 (Engine 1890)

6 cruisers in the class:
Danjoult-Dufort
Duvalles-Dassonville
Dentraigues-Duvillars


Displacement:
   3 600 t light; 3 731 t standard; 4 329 t normal; 4 807 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (372.45 ft / 367.45 ft) x 42.65 ft (Bulges 49.21 ft) x (15.23 / 16.76 ft)
   (113.52 m / 112.00 m) x 13.00 m (Bulges 15.00 m)  x (4.64 / 5.11 m)

Armament:
      2 - 5.51" / 140 mm 40.0 cal guns - 80.25lbs / 36.40kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1891 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 5.51" / 140 mm 40.0 cal guns - 80.25lbs / 36.40kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1891 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      4 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 220 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1891 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.20lbs / 1.45kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1891 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1891 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 457 lbs / 207 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 15.0" / 380 mm, 14.96 ft / 4.56 m torpedoes - 0.278 t each, 0.556 t total
   submerged bow & stern tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 15.0" / 380 mm, 14.96 ft / 4.56 m torpedoes - 0.278 t each, 0.556 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.18" / 30 mm         -         1.57" / 40 mm
   2nd:   1.18" / 30 mm         -         1.57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.18" / 30 mm
   Forecastle: 0.79" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0.79" / 20 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.38" / 35 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10 200 ihp / 7 609 Kw = 20.16 kts
   Range 6 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 076 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   266 - 346

Cost:
   £0.435 million / $1.741 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 100 tons, 2.3 %
      - Guns: 98 tons, 2.3 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 257 tons, 5.9 %
      - Armament: 21 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 229 tons, 5.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 8 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 1 967 tons, 45.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 260 tons, 29.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 729 tons, 16.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 16 tons, 0.4 %
      - Hull below water: 4 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 12 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2 301 lbs / 1 044 Kg = 27.5 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 2.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.87
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 10.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.55

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.555
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.47 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.17 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m
      - Forward deck:   8.00 %,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m,  15.09 ft / 4.60 m
      - Aft deck:   62.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.25 ft / 3.73 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 155.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 10 938 Square feet or 1 016 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 95 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 75 lbs/sq ft or 366 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.27
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Title: Re: Croiseurs Protégé - Protected Cruisers
Post by: Jefgte on July 08, 2014, 05:20:11 PM
Nearly identical to the Danjoult class:

Carmelia class, France CP2 laid down 1893 (Engine 1890)

6 cruisers in the class:
Carmelia-Cerres
Courseau-Caliste
Cassandra-Courtillon


Displacement:
   3 800 t light; 3 935 t standard; 4 558 t normal; 5 056 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (392.14 ft / 387.14 ft) x 42.65 ft (Bulges 49.21 ft) x (14.82 / 16.31 ft)
   (119.52 m / 118.00 m) x 13.00 m (Bulges 15.00 m)  x (4.52 / 4.97 m)

Armament:
      2 - 5.51" / 140 mm 40.0 cal guns - 80.25lbs / 36.40kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1893 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 5.51" / 140 mm 40.0 cal guns - 80.25lbs / 36.40kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1893 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      4 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 220 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1893 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.20lbs / 1.45kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1893 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1893 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 457 lbs / 207 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 15.0" / 380 mm, 14.96 ft / 4.56 m torpedoes - 0.300 t each, 0.600 t total
   submerged bow & stern tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 15.0" / 380 mm, 14.96 ft / 4.56 m torpedoes - 0.300 t each, 0.600 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.18" / 30 mm         -         1.57" / 40 mm
   2nd:   1.18" / 30 mm         -         1.57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.18" / 30 mm
   Forecastle: 0.79" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0.79" / 20 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.38" / 35 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10 900 ihp / 8 131 Kw = 20.42 kts
   Range 6 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 121 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   276 - 360

Cost:
   £0.462 million / $1.846 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 100 tons, 2.2 %
      - Guns: 98 tons, 2.2 %
      - Weapons: 2 tons, 0.0 %
   Armour: 273 tons, 6.0 %
      - Armament: 21 tons, 0.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 244 tons, 5.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 8 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 2 105 tons, 46.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 305 tons, 28.6 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 758 tons, 16.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 16 tons, 0.4 %
      - Hull below water: 4 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 12 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2 375 lbs / 1 077 Kg = 28.4 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 2.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.87
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 10.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 78 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.10
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.57

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.565 / 0.569
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.87 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.68 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m
      - Forward deck:   8.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Aft deck:   62.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.30 ft / 3.75 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 157.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 98.6 %
   Waterplane Area: 11 687 Square feet or 1 086 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 73 lbs/sq ft or 357 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.12
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
Title: Re: Croiseurs Protégé - Protected Cruisers
Post by: Jefgte on July 08, 2014, 05:23:48 PM
Anélise class, France CP3 laid down 1896 (Engine 1890)

6 ships in the class -> 3 divisions
Anélise-Auriane
Armélisa-Andréana
Anélia-Aloane


Displacement:
   4 150 t light; 4 293 t standard; 4 947 t normal; 5 470 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (393.70 ft / 393.70 ft) x 42.65 ft (Bulges 49.21 ft) x (15.54 / 17.07 ft)
   (120.00 m / 120.00 m) x 13.00 m (Bulges 15.00 m)  x (4.74 / 5.20 m)

Armament:
      2 - 5.51" / 140 mm 40.0 cal guns - 80.25lbs / 36.40kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 5.51" / 140 mm 40.0 cal guns - 80.25lbs / 36.40kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1896 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      4 - 3.94" / 100.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 30.78lbs / 13.96kg shells, 220 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 3.20lbs / 1.45kg shells, 300 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      4 - 0.31" / 8.0 mm 76.0 cal guns - 0.02lbs / 0.01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1896 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 457 lbs / 207 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 17.72 ft / 5.40 m torpedoes - 0.542 t each, 1.084 t total
   submerged bow & stern tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      2 - 17.7" / 450 mm, 17.72 ft / 5.40 m torpedoes - 0.542 t each, 1.084 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.18" / 30 mm         -         1.57" / 40 mm
   2nd:   1.18" / 30 mm         -         1.57" / 40 mm
   3rd:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 1.18" / 30 mm
   Forecastle: 0.79" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0.79" / 20 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.38" / 35 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 13 000 ihp / 9 698 Kw = 21.12 kts
   Range 6 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 177 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   294 - 383

Cost:
   £0.516 million / $2.063 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 102 tons, 2.1 %
      - Guns: 98 tons, 2.0 %
      - Weapons: 4 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 280 tons, 5.7 %
      - Armament: 21 tons, 0.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 251 tons, 5.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 9 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 2 405 tons, 48.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 345 tons, 27.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 797 tons, 16.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 18 tons, 0.4 %
      - Hull below water: 6 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 12 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2 326 lbs / 1 055 Kg = 27.8 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.87
   Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 10.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 77 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.53

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.575 / 0.579
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.84 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  15.75 ft / 4.80 m,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m
      - Forward deck:   35.00 %,  13.78 ft / 4.20 m,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m,  12.47 ft / 3.80 m
      - Average freeboard:      13.01 ft / 3.97 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 165.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 99.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 11 997 Square feet or 1 115 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 72 lbs/sq ft or 350 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.18
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather