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Title: French Merchant Fleet
Post by: Jefgte on March 06, 2013, 04:33:00 AM
Affected to Mediterranean lines from French harbors to African harbors

Displacement:
   2 800 t light; 2 863 t standard; 3 172 t normal; 3 419 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (229.00 ft / 229.00 ft) x 45.27 ft x (16.48 / 17.58 ft)
   (69.80 m / 69.80 m) x 13.80 m  x (5.02 / 5.36 m)

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 1 850 ihp / 1 380 Kw = 12.89 kts
   Range 4 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 556 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   210 - 274

Cost:
   £0.146 million / $0.584 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 343 tons, 10.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 657 tons, 20.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 372 tons, 11.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1 800 tons, 56.7 %
      - Hull below water: 900 tons
      - Hull above water: 800 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3 592 lbs / 1 629 Kg = 33.3 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.46
   Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 11.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 100 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck ,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.650 / 0.657
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.06 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.13 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  16.72 ft / 5.10 m,  14.78 ft / 4.50 m
      - Forward deck:   35.00 %,  10.82 ft / 3.30 m,  10.82 ft / 3.30 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  10.82 ft / 3.30 m,  10.82 ft / 3.30 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  14.78 ft / 4.50 m,  14.78 ft / 4.50 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.12 ft / 3.70 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 76.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 7 830 Square feet or 727 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 128 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 55 lbs/sq ft or 271 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.89
      - Longitudinal: 2.61
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

50% of misc w is ore
Ore: 900t
Cargo: 800t
25 Passengers: 100t

Tunis-Bizerte-Alger-Oran-Casablanca-Libreville-Dakar-Abidjan
8 x 2800t = 22400t
Title: Re: French Merchant Fleet
Post by: KWorld on March 06, 2013, 05:09:15 AM
Ore?  Why ship raw ore across the sea?  Wouldn't it make more economic sense to smelt it before you ship it?
Title: Re: French Merchant Fleet
Post by: Jefgte on March 06, 2013, 05:27:03 AM
QuoteOre?  Why ship raw ore across the sea?  Wouldn't it make more economic sense to smelt it before you ship it?

Partialy, not fine smelt.
High smelt technos & productions are made in France.

Jef
Title: Re: French Merchant Fleet
Post by: Jefgte on March 06, 2013, 05:28:21 AM
Affected to the far east lines - Indian Ocean, Indochina & Pacific.

Ville de Diego Suarez, France Cargo laid down 1896

Displacement:
   8 000 t light; 8 183 t standard; 9 171 t normal; 9 961 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (393.00 ft / 393.00 ft) x 65.62 ft x (19.15 / 20.57 ft)
   (119.79 m / 119.79 m) x 20.00 m  x (5.84 / 6.27 m)

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, simple reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 4 998 ihp / 3 728 Kw = 14.63 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 777 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   468 - 609

Cost:
   £0.408 million / $1.634 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 917 tons, 10.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 083 tons, 22.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 171 tons, 12.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 5 000 tons, 54.5 %
      - Hull below water: 2 500 tons
      - Hull above water: 2 400 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11 349 lbs / 5 148 Kg = 105.1 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.60
   Metacentric height 5.9 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 11.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 97 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.94

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck ,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.650 / 0.657
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.99 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.82 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 36 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   15.00 %,  18.70 ft / 5.70 m,  16.72 ft / 5.10 m
      - Forward deck:   35.00 %,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m,  12.80 ft / 3.90 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  16.72 ft / 5.10 m,  16.72 ft / 5.10 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.09 ft / 4.30 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 101.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 19 479 Square feet or 1 810 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 134 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 78 lbs/sq ft or 379 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.33
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

ore: 2500t
Materials: 2500t
Possibility for 25 Passengers


LD in 1896-Diego Suarez-Tananarive-Djibouti-Mombasa
LD in 1897-Saigon- Kwan Tchéou-Nouméa-Tahiti
8 cargox8000t = 64000t
Title: Re: French Merchant Fleet
Post by: KWorld on March 06, 2013, 05:32:47 AM
Quote from: Jefgte on March 06, 2013, 05:27:03 AM
QuoteOre?  Why ship raw ore across the sea?  Wouldn't it make more economic sense to smelt it before you ship it?

Partialy, not fine smelt.
High smelt technos & productions are made in France.

Heh, the joys of colonies: can't let the locals get too much knowledge, they'll use it against you.  So instead you get to ship impurities across the sea.
Title: Re: French Merchant Fleet
Post by: KWorld on March 06, 2013, 05:39:30 AM
On both of these, the speed (both max and cruise) is very high for a period freighter, causing you to pay more for less.  For non-perishable cargo, the speed is unnecessary and expensive, and for perishable cargo, you're too slow.

As a cheaper alternative, that carries 50% more cargo, there this:

Large Freighter, Civillian Freighter laid down 1899

Displacement:
   9,729 t light; 9,934 t standard; 10,255 t normal; 10,512 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (380.00 ft / 380.00 ft) x 65.00 ft x (23.25 / 23.75 ft)
   (115.82 m / 115.82 m) x 19.81 m  x (7.09 / 7.24 m)

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 1 shaft, 1,006 ihp / 750 Kw = 9.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 6.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 578 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   509 - 662

Cost:
   £0.363 million / $1.451 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 160 tons, 1.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,969 tons, 19.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 526 tons, 5.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 7,600 tons, 74.1 %
      - Hull below water: 5,000 tons
      - Hull above water: 2,500 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     11,266 lbs / 5,110 Kg = 2,953.9 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.53
   Metacentric height 5.4 ft / 1.7 m
   Roll period: 11.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 90 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.80

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle, raised quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.625 / 0.627
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.85 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 18 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  21.00 ft / 6.40 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m,  17.00 ft / 5.18 m
      - Average freeboard:      12.77 ft / 3.89 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84.9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 67.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 18,160 Square feet or 1,687 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 129 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 76 lbs/sq ft or 369 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.45
      - Overall: 1.01
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

On-deck miscellaneous weight simulates loading/unloading cranes.

Below-decks miscellaneous weight (7500 tons) is cargo.