... Round I (2/3) quite a bit late after having messed around with the numbers for quite a few days, revising things a half a dozen times or so due to the limit of the budget (which ruined my motivation), splitting it into two parts (took my time to make a ~2/3 part and a ~1/3part) and trying to figure out some names for the ships (I used an online translator, so for all I know, there may be some bad words among those names; if that is the case, I appologize to those who can read the nonsense names :) ).
Round II (1/3) will follow at a slightly later date (unless the mods want me to do it now; we're already running a bit behind their schedule).
Budget: minimum of $667 of $1000
NAVY
Ports:
Location --------- Type ------ Size ----- Cost ---- upkeep ----
Qingdao (HQ) ----- Sea ------ 90,000t ---- $18 ----- $1.80 ----
Rizhao ----------- Sea ------ 90,000t ---- $18 ----- $1.80 ----
Tanggu Qu -------- Sea ------ 40,000t ----- $8 ----- $0.80 ----
Zhifu Qu --------- Sea ------ 40,000t ----- $8 ----- $0.80 ----
Longgang --------- Sea ------ 15,000t ----- $3 ----- $0.30 ----
Yangkou ---------- Sea ------ 15,000t ----- $3 ----- $0.30 ----
Shidao ----------- Sea ------ 15,000t ----- $3 ----- $0.30 ----
Beijing --------- River ----- 10,000t ----- $2 ----- $0.20 ----
Tianjin --------- River ------ 5,000t ----- $1 ----- $0.10 ----
Total ---------------------- 320,000t ---- $64 ----- $6.40 ----
Docks:
----------- individual ----------------- total ----
Size --------- cost ------- number ------ cost ---- upkeep ----
60x12x6 ------ $2.59 --------- 2 -------- $5.18 ---- $0.52 ----
70x14x6 ------ $3.53 --------- 8 ------- $28.22 ---- $2.82 ----
80x17x5 ------ $4.08 --------- 2 -------- $8.16 ---- $0.82 ----
90x15x8 ------ $6.48 --------- 3 ------- $19.44 ---- $1.94 ----
100x20x8.5 -- $10.20 --------- 1 ------- $10.20 ---- $1.02 ----
110x23x8.5 -- $12.90 --------- 2 ------- $25.81 ---- $2.58 ----
Total ----------------------- 18 ------- $97.01 ---- $9.70 ----
Slips:
--------- individual ----------------- total ----
Length ----- cost ------- number ------ cost ----
30m -------- $0.045 ------- 22 ------- $0.99 ----
40m -------- $0.107 ------- 12 ------- $1.28 ----
50m -------- $0.208 ------- 12 ------- $2.50 ----
60m -------- $0.360 -------- 8 ------- $2.88 ----
70m -------- $0.572 ------- 11 ------- $6.29 ----
80m -------- $0.853 ------- 11 ------- $9.39 ----
90m -------- $1.215 -------- 4 ------- $4.86 ----
100m ------- $1.667 -------- 5 ------- $8.33 ----
110m ------- $2.218 -------- 4 ------- $8.87 ----
120m ------- $2.880 -------- 4 ------ $11.52 ----
Total --------------------- 93 ------ $56.91 ----
Ships (all ships active)
-----------------------------------------------individual-- total ----------------
Class name ------ Type ------ year ---- ships -- tonnage -- cost ----- upkeep ----
We Ye ------- Armored Ship -- 1868 ------ 2 ----- 3500 ---- $3.50 ----- $0.35 ----
Zhu Quan ---- Armored Ship -- 1868 ------ 2 ----- 4400 ---- $4.40 ----- $0.44 ----
Xie --------- Armored Ship -- 1868 ------ 2 ----- 2675 ---- $2.67 ----- $0.27 ----
Jun Zhu ----- Armored Ship -- 1869 ------ 2 ----- 8000 ---- $8.00 ----- $0.80 ----
Wu Wei ------ Armored Ship -- 1874 ------ 2 ----- 9000 --- $13.50 ----- $0.90 ----
Dai Ban ----- Armored Ship -- 1874 ------ 1 ---- 11725 ---- $8.79 ----- $0.59 ----
Jue Shan ------- Monitor ---- 1874 ------ 8 ----- 3795 --- $22.77 ----- $1.52 ----
Ma Yi ---------- Gunboat ---- 1873 ----- 36 ------ 170 ---- $4.59 ----- $0.30 ----
Sha Long ------- Gunboat ---- 1874 ----- 21 ------ 393 ---- $6.19 ----- $0.41 ----
Tu Ying -------- Gunboat ---- 1878 ------ 4 ------ 750 ---- $3.00 ----- $0.15 ----
Zi Jing ------- Corvette ---- 1873 ----- 16 ----- 2100 --- $25.20 ----- $1.68 ----
Lu Hu --------- Corvette ---- 1874 ------ 1 ----- 3000 ---- $2.25 ----- $0.15 ----
Bei Chen ------ Corvette ---- 1878 ------ 3 ----- 4140 --- $12.42 ----- $0.62 ----
Lian He Mu ---- Corvette ---- 1878 ----- 26 ----- 2000 --- $52.00 ----- $2.60 ----
Ya Ma Xun ------ Sloop ------ 1868 ------ 4 ----- 1500 ---- $3.00 ----- $0.30 ----
Ri Shi --------- Sloop ------ 1869 ------ 7 ----- 1700 ---- $5.95 ----- $0.60 ----
Mei Ying ------- Sloop ------ 1873 ------ 6 ------ 900 ---- $4.05 ----- $0.27 ----
Yu Ying -------- Sloop ------ 1874 ----- 20 ------ 990 --- $14.85 ----- $0.99 ----
He ------------- Patrol ----- 1869 ----- 85 ------- 80 ---- $3.40 ----- $0.34 ----
Shi ------------ Gunboat ---- 1868 ----- 31 ------ 650 --- $10.08 ----- $1.00 ----
Xian Shi Qi ---- Monitor ---- 1868 ----- 20 ------ 950 ---- $9.50 ----- $0.95 ---- (*)
Total---------------------------------- 299 ------------- $220.11 ---- $15.23 ----
Total tonnage: 304678t
ARMY
Name ------------ Type ----- cost ------ status ----- upkeep ---
I Corps --------- Inf ------- $20 ----- conscript ---- $4.00 ---
II Corps -------- Inf ------- $20 ----- conscript ---- $4.00 ---
III Corps ------- Inf ------- $20 ----- conscript ---- $4.00 ---
IV Corps -------- Inf ------- $20 ------ reserve ----- $1.00 ---
V Corps --------- Spc ------- $20 ----- conscript ---- $4.00 ---
VI Corps -------- Cav ------- $20 ----- conscript ---- $4.00 ---
Border Guards --- Spc ------- $10 ----- conscript ---- $2.00 ---
Customs --------- Spc ------- $10 ----- conscript ---- $2.00 ---
TMTG Division --- Spc ------- $10 ------ regular ----- $4.50 ---
1 TMTG Brigade -- Spc -------- $2 ------ regular ----- $0.90 ---
2 TMTG Brigade -- Spc -------- $2 ------ regular ----- $0.90 ---
3 TMTG Brigade -- Spc -------- $2 ------ regular ----- $0.90 ---
Palace Guards --- Spc -------- $2 ------ regular ----- $0.90 ---
1 Depot Brigade - Dep -------- $8 ------ reserve ----- $0.40 ---
2 Depot Brigade - Dep -------- $8 ------ reserve ----- $0.40 ---
1 Engineers ----- Eng -------- $8 ------ reserve ----- $0.40 ---
2 Engineers ----- Eng -------- $8 ------ reserve ----- $0.40 ---
1 Siege Brigade - Sge -------- $2 ------ reserve ----- $0.10 ---
2 Siege Brigade - Sge -------- $2 ------ reserve ----- $0.10 ---
3 Siege Brigade - Sge -------- $2 ------ reserve ----- $0.10 ---
4 Siege Brigade - Sge -------- $2 ------ reserve ----- $0.10 ---
1 Constables ---- Con -------- $2 ----- conscript ---- $0.40 ---
2 Constables ---- Con -------- $2 ----- conscript ---- $0.40 ---
3 Constables ---- Con -------- $2 ----- conscript ---- $0.40 ---
4 Constables ---- Con -------- $2 ----- conscript ---- $0.40 ---
Total ---------------------- $206 ------------------- $36.70 ---
Fortifications
Position ----------------- citadels -- cost ---- status ---- upkeep ----
Wanping Fortress --------------- 1 ---- $1 ----- active ---- $0.45 -----
Wanping Fortress --------------- 1 ---- $1 ----- reserve --- $0.05 -----
Tuan Cheng Fortress ------------ 1 ---- $1 ----- active ---- $0.45 -----
Tuan Cheng Fortress ------------ 1 ---- $1 ----- reserve --- $0.05 -----
Sishui Gate -------------------- 1 ---- $1 ----- active ---- $0.45 -----
Sishui Gate -------------------- 1 ---- $1 ----- reserve --- $0.05 -----
Hulao Gate --------------------- 1 ---- $1 ----- active ---- $0.45 -----
Hulao Gate --------------------- 1 ---- $1 ----- reserve --- $0.05 -----
Turtle Gate Fortress ----------- 1 ---- $1 ----- active ---- $0.45 -----
Turtle Gate Fortress ----------- 1 ---- $1 ----- reserve --- $0.05 -----
Phoenix Gate Fortress ---------- 1 ---- $1 ----- active ---- $0.45 -----
Phoenix Gate Fortress ---------- 1 ---- $1 ----- reserve --- $0.05 -----
Dragon Gate Fortress ----------- 1 ---- $1 ----- active ---- $0.45 -----
Dragon Gate Fortress ----------- 1 ---- $1 ----- reserve --- $0.05 -----
Tiger Gate Fortress ------------ 1 ---- $1 ----- active ---- $0.45 -----
Tiger Gate Fortress ------------ 1 ---- $1 ----- reserve --- $0.05 -----
Huailai Fort ------------------- 1 ---- $1 ----- active ---- $0.45 -----
Huailai Fort ------------------- 1 ---- $1 ----- reserve --- $0.05 -----
Dagu Forts --------------------- 2 ---- $2 ----- active ---- $0.90 -----
Dagu Forts --------------------- 1 ---- $1 ----- reserve --- $0.05 -----
Yao Cheng Bao Fortress --------- 2 ---- $2 ----- active ---- $0.90 -----
Yao Cheng Bao Fortress --------- 1 ---- $1 ----- reserve --- $0.05 -----
Jiaozhou Dao ------------------- 1 ---- $1 ----- active ---- $0.45 -----
Jiaozhou Dao ------------------- 1 ---- $1 ----- reserve --- $0.05 -----
Taihang Mountains Temple -----------------------------------------------
---------- Complex Guard House - 2 ---- $2 ----- active ---- $0.90 -----
Total ------------------------- 28 --- $28 ----- ----------- $7.80 -----
Total Navy costs: $438.03
Total Navy upkeep: $31.33
Total Army costs: $234.00
Total Army upkeep: $44.50
Total cost: $672.03
Total upkeep: $75.83
Round II budget: $329.97
(*) 'Xian Shi Qi' was the translation of 'Monitor'; it's actually a computer monitor but I thought it was good enough eventhough a computer monitor does not really fit into the late 19th century. ;D
QuoteTotal tonnage: 304678t
304 678t !!!
From 1860 to 1879...rules gives
120 000t Jef
We have a rules thread here...
http://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,5625.0.html
... and a newer one here....
http://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,5717.0.html
... and the spending spree thread here...
http://www.navalism.org/index.php/topic,5689.75.html
I do not see any fleet size limits in those threads, so the only limit there is is the limit of my budget, the naval bases and the upkeep.
Once again Modos, Rules are everywhere...perfect to confuse Players
Could we have one locked thread named :"RULES"
With only rules inside
Thanks
... I'm getting tired of waiting so... Round II (1/3)... will post the complete spending list in the Wei encyclopedia after dinner and after I added the last minute additional ship to that list, followed by the sims of the ships. I still need to to a ton of names for the smaller ships which I will most likely edit in later...
Remaining budget after Round I: $329.97
NAVY
Ports:
Location --------- Type ------ Size ----- Cost ---- upkeep ----
Weihai ----------- Sea ------ 90,000t ---- $18 ----- $1.80 ----
Xuzhou ---------- River ------ 5,000t ----- $1 ----- $0.10 ----
Jining ---------- River ------ 5,000t ----- $1 ----- $0.10 ----
Liaocheng ------- River ------ 5,000t ----- $1 ----- $0.10 ----
Linqing --------- River ------ 5,000t ----- $1 ----- $0.10 ----
Hanshuang ------- River ------ 5,000t ----- $1 ----- $0.10 ----
Pizhou ---------- River ------ 5,000t ----- $1 ----- $0.10 ----
Dezhou ---------- River ------ 5,000t ----- $1 ----- $0.10 ----
Total ---------------------- 125,000t ---- $25 ----- $2.50 ----
Ships
-----------------------------------------------individual-- total ----------------
Class name ------ Type ------ year ---- ships -- tonnage -- cost ----- upkeep ----
Sha Luo Di Qia - Monitor ---- 1865 ------ 4 ----- 1850 ---- $3.70 ----- $0.37 ----
Ju Ren ------ Armored Ship -- 1879 ------ 2 ----- 8700 --- $17.40 ----- $0.87 ----
Mai Di Na ------ Gunboat ---- 1878 ----- 12 ------ 350 ---- $4.20 ----- $0.21 ----
Yuan Wei Hua -- Corvette ---- 1878 ------ 8 ----- 3400 --- $27.20 ----- $1.36 ----
Zuo San -------- Sloop ------ 1878 ----- 25 ------ 999 --- $24.98 ----- $1.24 ----
Total----------------------------------- 47 -------------- $77.48 ----- $4.06 ----
Total tonnage: 81175t
ARMY
Fortifications
Position ----------------- citadels -- cost ---- status ---- upkeep ----
Beijing Walls ----------------- 16 --- $16 ----- reserve --- $0.80 -----
Defence Line of Beijing ------- 50 --- $50 ----- reserve --- $2.50 -----
Total ------------------------- 66 --- $66 ----------------- $3.30 -----
Army
Name ------------ Type ----- cost ------ status ----- upkeep ---
VII Corps ------- Inf ------- $20 ----- conscript ---- $4.00 ---
VIII Corps ------ Inf ------- $20 ----- conscript ---- $4.00 ---
IX Corps -------- Spc ------- $20 ----- conscript ---- $4.00 ---
X Corps --------- Cav ------- $20 ------ reserve ----- $1.00 ---
Total ----------------------- $80 ------------------- $13.00 ---
Total Navy costs: $102.48
Total Navy upkeep: $6.56
Total Army costs: $146.00
Total Army upkeep: $16.30
Total cost: $248.48
Total upkeep: $22.86
Round I Total cost: $672.03
Round I Total upkeep: $75.83
Sub Total cost: $920.51
Sub Total upkeep: $98.69
On the Bank: $79.49
Bank Limit: $166.65
Go with the text in the Rules (FINAL COMMENTS)
Michael
... which is the second link I gave. It is also the one I used to set everything up as that was the most recent post regarding rules.
I've di-stickied the draft and stickied the most recent topic regarding the rules. I hope that helps. My intention is to print that out, take a red pen to it, and then post to a 'real' rules forum, possibly as soon as tonight, wife and children dependent.