As of 21/2 the Bureau offers this design for sale/building:
QuoteEnter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1921
Displacement:
40.229 t light; 42.066 t standard; 45.794 t normal; 48.777 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
824,34 ft / 820,21 ft x 127,95 ft x 28,71 ft (normal load)
251,26 m / 250,00 m x 39,00 m x 8,75 m
Armament:
6 - 17,91" / 455 mm guns (3x2 guns), 2.874,11lbs / 1.303,67kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 4,92" / 125 mm guns in single mounts, 59,59lbs / 27,03kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
10 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1921 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 18.218 lbs / 8.263 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 90
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 378,94 ft / 115,50 m 16,67 ft / 5,08 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 4,72" / 120 mm 378,94 ft / 115,50 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 71 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,97" / 50 mm 378,94 ft / 115,50 m 27,10 ft / 8,26 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 9,84" / 250 mm 13,8" / 350 mm
2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,39" / 10 mm -
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
- Armour deck: 4,72" / 120 mm, Conning tower: 13,78" / 350 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 79.804 shp / 59.534 Kw = 25,00 kts
Range 12.000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 6.711 tons
Complement:
1.564 - 2.034
Cost:
£9,432 million / $37,730 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2.277 tons, 5,0 %
Armour: 14.856 tons, 32,4 %
- Belts: 4.806 tons, 10,5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 748 tons, 1,6 %
- Armament: 2.628 tons, 5,7 %
- Armour Deck: 6.295 tons, 13,7 %
- Conning Tower: 380 tons, 0,8 %
Machinery: 2.748 tons, 6,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 19.847 tons, 43,3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5.566 tons, 12,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1,1 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
74.736 lbs / 33.900 Kg = 26,0 x 17,9 " / 455 mm shells or 14,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18
Metacentric height 9,8 ft / 3,0 m
Roll period: 17,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,27
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0,532
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,41 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28,64 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1,15 ft / 0,35 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Forecastle (0 %): 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Mid (50 %): 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Stern: 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Average freeboard: 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 148,2 %
Waterplane Area: 72.020 Square feet or 6.691 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 227 lbs/sq ft or 1.110 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1,11
- Longitudinal: 0,97
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Or for the "nitpicks": :D :D :D :D
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Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1921
Displacement:
39.995 t light; 41.827 t standard; 45.538 t normal; 48.507 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
807,93 ft / 803,81 ft x 127,95 ft x 28,71 ft (normal load)
246,26 m / 245,00 m x 39,00 m x 8,75 m
Armament:
6 - 17,91" / 455 mm guns (3x2 guns), 2.874,11lbs / 1.303,67kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 4,92" / 125 mm guns in single mounts, 59,59lbs / 27,03kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
10 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1921 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 18.218 lbs / 8.263 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 90
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 378,94 ft / 115,50 m 16,67 ft / 5,08 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 5,91" / 150 mm 378,94 ft / 115,50 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 73 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,97" / 50 mm 378,94 ft / 115,50 m 27,10 ft / 8,26 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 9,84" / 250 mm 13,8" / 350 mm
2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,39" / 10 mm -
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
- Armour deck: 5,12" / 130 mm, Conning tower: 13,78" / 350 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 80.272 shp / 59.883 Kw = 25,00 kts
Range 12.000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 6.680 tons
Complement:
1.558 - 2.026
Cost:
£9,417 million / $37,669 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2.277 tons, 5,0 %
Armour: 15.455 tons, 33,9 %
- Belts: 4.969 tons, 10,9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 748 tons, 1,6 %
- Armament: 2.628 tons, 5,8 %
- Armour Deck: 6.732 tons, 14,8 %
- Conning Tower: 379 tons, 0,8 %
Machinery: 2.764 tons, 6,1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 18.998 tons, 41,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5.543 tons, 12,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1,1 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
73.191 lbs / 33.199 Kg = 25,5 x 17,9 " / 455 mm shells or 14,0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,17
Metacentric height 9,7 ft / 3,0 m
Roll period: 17,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,28
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0,540
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,28 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28,35 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1,15 ft / 0,35 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Forecastle (0 %): 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Mid (50 %): 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Stern: 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Average freeboard: 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146,9 %
Waterplane Area: 71.097 Square feet or 6.605 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 115 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 220 lbs/sq ft or 1.077 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1,07
- Longitudinal: 0,97
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
In both designs, x-sectional strength is greater than the longitudinal so you could raise the freeboard a bit in order to gain more overall hull strength. Then you could alter it a bit more so the design actually is less than 40,000 tons. :)
... not that Japan cares about that. :D
It is just a "business" item ;D ;D ;D ;D
The CSA will prefer smaller ships that can be in more places at once, which fire more shells with a larger chance to hit.
An 18" gun looks nice on paper... but we'll stick to something a bit more reasonable.
QuoteEnter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1921
Displacement:
39.522 t light; 41.344 t standard; 45.034 t normal; 47.986 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
775,18 ft / 771,00 ft x 127,95 ft x 28,38 ft (normal load)
236,28 m / 235,00 m x 39,00 m x 8,65 m
Armament:
6 - 17,91" / 455 mm guns (3x2 guns), 2.874,11lbs / 1.303,67kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 4,92" / 125 mm guns in single mounts, 59,59lbs / 27,03kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
10 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1921 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 18.218 lbs / 8.263 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 90
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 444,55 ft / 135,50 m 16,67 ft / 5,08 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 5,91" / 150 mm 444,55 ft / 135,50 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 89 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,97" / 50 mm 444,55 ft / 135,50 m 27,10 ft / 8,26 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 9,84" / 250 mm 13,8" / 350 mm
2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,39" / 10 mm -
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
- Armour deck: 5,12" / 130 mm, Conning tower: 13,78" / 350 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 81.703 shp / 60.951 Kw = 25,00 kts
Range 12.000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 6.642 tons
Complement:
1.545 - 2.009
Cost:
£9,393 million / $37,571 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2.277 tons, 5,1 %
Armour: 16.083 tons, 35,7 %
- Belts: 5.573 tons, 12,4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 877 tons, 1,9 %
- Armament: 2.658 tons, 5,9 %
- Armour Deck: 6.599 tons, 14,7 %
- Conning Tower: 376 tons, 0,8 %
Machinery: 2.813 tons, 6,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 17.849 tons, 39,6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5.512 tons, 12,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 1,1 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
72.802 lbs / 33.022 Kg = 25,3 x 17,9 " / 455 mm shells or 14,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21
Metacentric height 10,2 ft / 3,1 m
Roll period: 16,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,27
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,07
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0,563
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,03 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,77 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1,15 ft / 0,35 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 17,22 ft / 5,25 m
- Forecastle (0 %): 17,22 ft / 5,25 m
- Mid (50 %): 17,22 ft / 5,25 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 17,22 ft / 5,25 m
- Stern: 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Average freeboard: 17,20 ft / 5,24 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 70,9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 148,0 %
Waterplane Area: 69.692 Square feet or 6.475 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 212 lbs/sq ft or 1.033 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1,03
- Longitudinal: 1,00
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
;D ;D ;D :D :D 8) ;)
The CSA's next design s probably going to be some 10,000 tons lighter and carry more on the order of 5x2x15".
IMHO a ship with more 16" guns is a better deal, but I'm no Jackie Fisher.
Overarmored, undergunned and too slow... ;D
A treaty version:
QuoteEnter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1921
Displacement:
34.935 t light; 36.783 t standard; 39.603 t normal; 41.858 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
721,65 ft / 717,19 ft x 124,67 ft x 29,53 ft (normal load)
219,96 m / 218,60 m x 38,00 m x 9,00 m
Armament:
6 - 17,91" / 455 mm guns (2x3 guns), 2.874,11lbs / 1.303,67kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
20 - 0,00" / 0,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,00lbs / 0,00kg shells, 1921 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
10 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns in single mounts, 1,95lbs / 0,89kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 17.264 lbs / 7.831 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 110
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 410,11 ft / 125,00 m 16,67 ft / 5,08 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 5,91" / 150 mm 410,11 ft / 125,00 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,8" / 350 mm 9,84" / 250 mm 11,8" / 300 mm
2nd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,39" / 10 mm -
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
- Armour deck: 4,72" / 120 mm, Conning tower: 13,78" / 350 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric cruising motors plus geared drives, 4 shafts, 88.092 shp / 65.717 Kw = 26,00 kts
Range 10.000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5.075 tons
Complement:
1.403 - 1.824
Cost:
£8,808 million / $35,231 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2.158 tons, 5,4 %
Armour: 12.878 tons, 32,5 %
- Belts: 5.166 tons, 13,0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0,0 %
- Armament: 2.039 tons, 5,1 %
- Armour Deck: 5.328 tons, 13,5 %
- Conning Tower: 345 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 3.033 tons, 7,7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 16.215 tons, 40,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4.667 tons, 11,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 650 tons, 1,6 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
59.374 lbs / 26.932 Kg = 20,7 x 17,9 " / 455 mm shells or 5,7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21
Metacentric height 9,8 ft / 3,0 m
Roll period: 16,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,32
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,18
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0,525
Length to Beam Ratio: 5,75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,78 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,98 ft / 0,30 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 19,65 ft / 5,99 m
- Mid (50 %): 19,65 ft / 5,99 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 19,65 ft / 5,99 m
- Stern: 19,65 ft / 5,99 m
- Average freeboard: 19,65 ft / 5,99 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 68,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162,6 %
Waterplane Area: 60.961 Square feet or 5.663 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 211 lbs/sq ft or 1.030 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,43
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Armour inclined 10´dg
Armour:All Imp. KC types +10% as all Esc vessels laid down since 17/2!!
What do you intent to charge for one of those?
$ 70 paid in four rates
not to nitpick but the 20 0,00" / 0,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,00lbs / 0,00kg shells of the secondary battery arnt going to do much against a TB =P