To be laid down 1st HY 1918:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd42/Sachmle/SchlacktschiffenQ.jpg)
Schlacktschiffen "Q", Brandenburg Schlacktschiffen laid down 1918 (Engine 1916)
Displacement:
32,500 t light; 33,997 t standard; 35,806 t normal; 37,253 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
721.80 ft / 715.22 ft x 102.13 ft x 31.17 ft (normal load)
220.00 m / 218.00 m x 31.13 m x 9.50 m
Armament:
6 - 14.96" / 380 mm guns (3x2 guns), 1,675.51lbs / 760.00kg shells, 1918 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
2 - 14.96" / 380 mm guns (1x2 guns), 1,675.51lbs / 760.00kg shells, 1918 Model
Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
on centreline amidships
14 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99.21lbs / 45.00kg shells, 1908 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
14 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
8 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 35.27lbs / 16.00kg shells, 1905 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 1910 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 15,091 lbs / 6,845 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 90
5 - 19.7" / 500 mm submerged torpedo tubes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 465.06 ft / 141.75 m 16.01 ft / 4.88 m
Ends: 3.94" / 100 mm 234.15 ft / 71.37 m 10.01 ft / 3.05 m
16.01 ft / 4.88 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 314.96 ft / 96.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.77" / 45 mm 465.06 ft / 141.75 m 44.16 ft / 13.46 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 7.09" / 180 mm 12.2" / 310 mm
2nd: 13.8" / 350 mm 7.09" / 180 mm 12.2" / 310 mm
3rd: 5.91" / 150 mm 1.97" / 50 mm 3.94" / 100 mm
4th: 0.98" / 25 mm - -
- Armour deck: 2.95" / 75 mm, Conning tower: 13.78" / 350 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 108,340 shp / 80,822 Kw = 28.00 kts
Range 8,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,256 tons
Complement:
1,300 - 1,691
Cost:
£6.583 million / $26.333 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,892 tons, 5.3 %
Armour: 12,680 tons, 35.4 %
- Belts: 5,477 tons, 15.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,346 tons, 3.8 %
- Armament: 2,748 tons, 7.7 %
- Armour Deck: 2,786 tons, 7.8 %
- Conning Tower: 323 tons, 0.9 %
Machinery: 4,037 tons, 11.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 13,492 tons, 37.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,306 tons, 9.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 400 tons, 1.1 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
41,829 lbs / 18,973 Kg = 25.0 x 15.0 " / 380 mm shells or 6.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 6.2 ft / 1.9 m
Roll period: 17.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.52
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.03
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.74 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.33 degrees
Stern overhang: -4.10 ft / -1.25 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 23.98 ft / 7.31 m
- Forecastle (21 %): 19.98 ft / 6.09 m
- Mid (77 %): 19.98 ft / 6.09 m (12.99 ft / 3.96 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (17 %): 12.99 ft / 3.96 m
- Stern: 16.99 ft / 5.18 m
- Average freeboard: 19.06 ft / 5.81 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 144.4 %
Waterplane Area: 51,000 Square feet or 4,738 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 193 lbs/sq ft or 944 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.23
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
250t 1908 Fire Control Installation
25t Long Range Markoni Installation
25t 1905 Sehendes Auge Installation
25t 25 1908 50cm Torpedoes, 5 per tube
25t Admirals Quaters
50t Construction Reserve Weight
"Soon as we find that German battleship that's makin' such a fuss,
We gotta sink the", *singing very rapidly*, "Schlactshiffen Q 'cause the world depends on us!"
Looks good, but what's sitting immediately aft of turret Caesar?
Looks like a low set range finder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KecIdlEAKhU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KecIdlEAKhU)
;D
I mean that long, linear dark grey thing. Looks like a catapult, but it's an odd place for it if so.
Hm, as it could be catapult we have a few problems.
Where's the crane to load the plane unto it?
Fun cleaning up the mess if the guns fire abaft, a catapult wasn't the most blast proof structure on a BB.
I don't think it is a catapult, his Misc. Weights don't include an airplane.
Quote50t Construction Reserve Weight
50 tons is a lot of WW I vintage aircraft.
Doubt it, they don't even have the 1910 Seaplane tech, so I doubt they would have catapult.
Quote from: The Rock Doctor on August 09, 2009, 07:09:46 PM
"Soon as we find that German battleship that's makin' such a fuss,
We gotta sink the", *singing very rapidly*, "Schlactshiffen Q 'cause the world depends on us!"
Looks good, but what's sitting immediately aft of turret Caesar?
Air intakes for the engine room directly under it.
Nice ship - plenty of everything - and pretty economical to boot
Have to be really picky to suggest anything - but here goes ;)
- Sbt Qlty is rather low - possible to raise Freeboard a little to improve that?
Esp - quarterdeck - rather low for heavy seas - you have some sheer at the stern - but does not solve the problem fully
Sweet. :D
I think using the "Centerline (distributed)" turret arrangement would work better than seperatly simming Q turret. :)
Decided that 28kts was a little fast for a BB when the rest of mine only do ~23kts..so I backed her down to almost 26kts...and added 2,000nm range, and 25mm deck armor, and 10mm barbette armor for a cost of 15mm of "other" armor on the turrets and 1 less TT. Used BR's idea on layout and saved 500t in the process. Same look so no new pic..
Schlacktschiffen "Q", Brandenburg Schlacktschiffen laid down 1918 (Engine 1916)
Displacement:
32,000 t light; 33,484 t standard; 35,696 t normal; 37,465 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
721.80 ft / 715.22 ft x 102.13 ft x 31.17 ft (normal load)
220.00 m / 218.00 m x 31.13 m x 9.50 m
Armament:
8 - 14.96" / 380 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1,675.51lbs / 760.00kg shells, 1918 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread, 1 raised mount
Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
14 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99.21lbs / 45.00kg shells, 1908 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
14 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
8 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 35.27lbs / 16.00kg shells, 1905 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
4 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.86lbs / 1.75kg shells, 1910 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 15,091 lbs / 6,845 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 90
4 - 19.7" / 500 mm submerged torpedo tubes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 465.06 ft / 141.75 m 16.01 ft / 4.88 m
Ends: 3.94" / 100 mm 234.15 ft / 71.37 m 10.01 ft / 3.05 m
16.01 ft / 4.88 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 5.91" / 150 mm 314.96 ft / 96.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.77" / 45 mm 465.06 ft / 141.75 m 44.16 ft / 13.46 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13.8" / 350 mm 6.50" / 165 mm 12.6" / 320 mm
2nd: 5.91" / 150 mm 1.97" / 50 mm 3.94" / 100 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm - -
- Armour deck: 3.94" / 100 mm, Conning tower: 13.78" / 350 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 4 shafts, 80,000 shp / 59,680 Kw = 25.92 kts
Range 10,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,981 tons
Complement:
1,298 - 1,688
Cost:
£6.253 million / $25.011 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,892 tons, 5.3 %
Armour: 13,737 tons, 38.5 %
- Belts: 5,476 tons, 15.3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,346 tons, 3.8 %
- Armament: 2,884 tons, 8.1 %
- Armour Deck: 3,709 tons, 10.4 %
- Conning Tower: 322 tons, 0.9 %
Machinery: 2,981 tons, 8.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 12,996 tons, 36.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,696 tons, 10.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 395 tons, 1.1 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
47,947 lbs / 21,749 Kg = 28.6 x 15.0 " / 380 mm shells or 8.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 6.2 ft / 1.9 m
Roll period: 17.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.55
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.23
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.549
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.74 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 47 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 57
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.33 degrees
Stern overhang: -4.10 ft / -1.25 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 23.98 ft / 7.31 m
- Forecastle (21 %): 19.98 ft / 6.09 m
- Mid (77 %): 19.98 ft / 6.09 m (12.99 ft / 3.96 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (17 %): 12.99 ft / 3.96 m
- Stern: 16.99 ft / 5.18 m
- Average freeboard: 19.06 ft / 5.81 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 144.4 %
Waterplane Area: 50,919 Square feet or 4,731 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 186 lbs/sq ft or 910 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.21
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
250t 1908 Fire Control Installation
25t Long Range Markoni Installation
25t 1905 Sehendes Auge Installation
25t Admiral's Cabin and Officers Mess
20t 20 1908 50cm Torpedoes, 5 per tube
50t Construction Reserve Weight
You could use the 20 tons for torpedoes to stow a launch with a torpedo tube... :)
A question about the picture; is not the turrets a bit too low? Going by the height of the hullbreak they seems to be just 2-2,5m high, looking at pictures of the IRL turrets on Baden I think about 3,5-4m would be closer to reality.
Nice picture otherwise. :)