Couldn't resist to test a short Dreadnought for Peru with the Study 5 disposition for the 4 side turrets:
side alterned superfiring.
Study5, Peru BB laid down 1909 (Engine 1910)
Displacement:
13 600 t light; 14 483 t standard; 14 874 t normal; 15 187 t full load
Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
553.48 ft / 553.48 ft x 79.07 ft x 21.83 ft (normal load)
168.70 m / 168.70 m x 24.10 m x 6.65 m
Armament:
4 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (2x2 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1909 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, evenly spread
8 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (4x2 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1909 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on side alterned superfiring
6 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1909 Model
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
4 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in all but light seas
8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1909 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1909 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 10 793 lbs / 4 895 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 92
4 - 17.7" / 450 mm submerged torpedo tubes
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 10.6" / 270 mm 298.56 ft / 91.00 m 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
Ends: 1.57" / 40 mm 98.43 ft / 30.00 m 9.19 ft / 2.80 m
156.50 ft / 47.70 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 83 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9.06" / 230 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 7.99" / 203 mm
2nd: 9.06" / 230 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 7.99" / 203 mm
- Armour deck: 2.76" / 70 mm, Conning tower: 7.99" / 203 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 13 219 shp / 9 862 Kw = 18.10 kts
Range 3 000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 703 tons
Complement:
673 - 875
Cost:
£1.686 million / $6.743 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 349 tons, 9.1 %
Armour: 4 523 tons, 30.4 %
- Belts: 1 365 tons, 9.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1 505 tons, 10.1 %
- Armour Deck: 1 550 tons, 10.4 %
- Conning Tower: 104 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 546 tons, 3.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 7 156 tons, 48.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 275 tons, 8.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 25 tons, 0.2 %
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
17 769 lbs / 8 060 Kg = 20.6 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 2.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.05
Metacentric height 3.9 ft / 1.2 m
Roll period: 16.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.96
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.26
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.545
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.53 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 34 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.93 ft / 7.60 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 19.82 ft / 6.04 m
- Mid (50 %): 19.82 ft / 6.04 m (11.81 ft / 3.60 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
- Stern: 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
- Average freeboard: 16.18 ft / 4.93 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 136.1 %
Waterplane Area: 30 399 Square feet or 2 824 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 173 lbs/sq ft or 844 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.46
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Jef ;)
Ahoj!
I think it would be a good idea to link to a picture of your signature "side alterned superfiring". It is difficult to explain, and I finally understood the scheme when you put up one of your scratchbuilds.
BTW - isn't en echelon simpler?
Borys
On others Warships Forums, Study 5 topic is over... too old.
Just 2 pics for the disposition of the side turrets
From the stern
(http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/9290/study5photo024qa2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
A turret, the tower & the side alterned superfiring 8" turrets
(http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5053/study5photo023lf7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Jef ;)
Isn't that a little light on the tonnage verse what is more or less a lengthened Settsu.
Ahoj!
It practically has no belt ...
Borys
While it seems that the aft mounts would have no trouble firing both to port, the fore port mount doesn't appear to have enough clearance to swing to starboard.
Sachmle wrote:
"...the fore port mount doesn't appear to have enough clearance to swing to starboard...."
60° to the opposite side
Jef ;)
Very good. I've taken a fourth look and now see the shortness of the barrels allow it to swing to starboard w/o hitting the superstructure. Nice work Jef.
The 3000@10 range is abysmal IMHO. A mere 12 day range. Especially for oil firing. I'd call it a 'harbor defense battleship'.
Without upper belt and casemate armor, the ship could be defeated by cruisers/destroyers firing 4-6" guns at all the unarmed freeboard.
Ahoj!
Peruvian dreadnaughts ARE 'harbor defense battleships'.
:)
As to the second part - IF the enemy cruisers/destroyers get close enough.
But true - smaller navies cannot rely on numbers, but quality, so maybe a 4" Upper Belt?
As this ship is Espana sized, at 4x2x12" it would make a nice little package.
Borys
Borys wrote:
"...Peruvian dreadnaughts ARE 'harbor defense battleships'..."
hmmm... Oceanic operations with other allied countries are possible.
Jef ;)
"Possible", but not recommended.
Quote from: Ithekro on April 06, 2008, 01:53:15 PM
"Possible", but not recommended.
I believe that is Ithekro's way of saying "Play in your own sandbox." ;D
Actaully I was agreeing with Borys and P3D on the range and armor issues of this being an ocean going combat battleship. But keeping away from hostile operating areas is fine too. You only have a 1,500 nm operating radius at best, and more likely only 1,000 plus time on station.
Ahoj!
Example - it is about 2600 nm from Callao (your main port) to Punta Arenas, the nearest Austrian bse in the Magalhaes Strait.
Borys