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Title: Pacific islands
Post by: swamphen on June 27, 2007, 06:44:28 PM
Decided to work out precisely what goes where (a big help when you're shooting around the islandsĀ  ;D ) using this map (http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/australia/oceania_pol01.jpg).

By my calculation, this is how things shake out at the moment:

Nipponese Empire
Ryuku Islands
Daito-shoto
Okino-tori-shima


Deutsches Kaiserreich Brandenburg
Neue Guinea:
Bismarck Islands
D'Entrecasteaux Islands

Deutsch Polynesia:
Solomon Islands
Santa Cruz Islands
Vanuatu
New Calendonia
Fiji
Tonga
Samoa
Wallis and Futuna
Niue
Polynesia
Norfolk Island
Kermadec Islands
Pitcairn Islands
Easter Island


United States of New Switzerland
Australia:
Louisiade Islands
Coral Sea Islands
Lord Howe Island

Swiss Micronesia:
Palau
Bonin Islands
Volcano Islands
Marcus Island
Marianas Islands
Guam
Caroline Islands
Marshall Islands

Hawai'i:
Hawai'ian Islands
Midway Islands
Johnston Atoll

Swiss Polynesia:
Kingman Reef
Palmyra Atoll
Kirimati Island
Jarvis Island
Tuvalu
Tokelau
Howland Island
Baker Island
Phoenix Islands
Gilbert Islands
Line Islands
American Samoa (Swiss Samoa)
Isles Marquises


Gran Colombia
Cook Islands


Glorious France
French Polynesia:
Society Islands
Tahiti
Isles Tubuai
Rapa
Tuamotu Islands
Mururoa
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Desertfox on June 29, 2007, 08:48:13 AM
Looks right.

As for the Cooks, even the French might have had a finger in that pie. No wonder the Germans sold them. Swiss to the North, Germans to the West, French to the East, and nothing, absolutely nothing to the South. Why the Columbians would want those islands is a mystery. :P
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on June 29, 2007, 08:57:11 AM
For the pearls, of course.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: swamphen on July 13, 2007, 09:37:20 AM
Start of 1908 after Treaty of Manila...

OTL map (http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/australia/oceania_pol01.jpg).

Nipponese Empire
Ryuku Islands
Daito-shoto
Okino-tori-shima
Samoa-jima (Swiss Samoa)


Deutsches Kaiserreich Brandenburg
Neue Guinea:
Bismarck Islands
D'Entrecasteaux Islands

Deutsch Polynesia:
Solomon Islands
Santa Cruz Islands
Vanuatu
New Calendonia
Fiji
Tonga
Deutsch Samoa
Wallis and Futuna
Niue
Polynesia
Norfolk Island
Kermadec Islands
Pitcairn Islands
Easter Island


United States of New Switzerland
Australia:
Louisiade Islands
Coral Sea Islands
Lord Howe Island

Swiss Micronesia:
Saipan
Tinian
Aquijan
Caroline Islands (ex. Yap Islands)
Marshall Islands

Hawai'i:
Hawai'ian Islands
Midway Islands
Johnston Atoll

Swiss Polynesia:
Kingman Reef
Palmyra Atoll
Kirimati Island
Jarvis Island
Tuvalu
Tokelau
Howland Island
Baker Island
Phoenix Islands
Gilbert Islands
Line Islands
Isles Marquises


Iberian Empire
Bonin Islands
Volcano Islands
Marcus Island
Palau
Marianas Islands (ex. those listed above as Swiss)
Guam
Yap Islands


Gran Colombia
Cook Islands


Glorious France
French Polynesia:
Society Islands
Tahiti
Isles Tubuai
Rapa
Tuamotu Islands
Mururoa
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on July 13, 2007, 10:17:32 AM
Any chance that map's available as a .png file?  It would be fairly easy to re-color the boundaries to fit the nations, whereas a .jpg isn't so handy.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: P3D on July 13, 2007, 10:33:30 AM
This is a PDF, with better colors:

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/islands_oceans_poles/oceania_pol97.pdf

you have to cut the necessary parts and put them together in Paint.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on July 13, 2007, 10:47:50 AM
What's the status of the various islands between Easter Island and the South American mainland?
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Borys on July 13, 2007, 10:58:23 AM
There are some?
Borys
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Ithekro on July 13, 2007, 11:11:26 AM
Either they are with Argentina, or they have been abandoned.  Possible takes would be DBK or Rohan, as they seem to have come into the Chilean territories.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: swamphen on July 13, 2007, 04:24:21 PM
Well, the DKB doesn't have them...  ;)
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Walter on July 13, 2007, 04:37:08 PM
*Places Japanese flags on numerous islands*
Hey! No touching my islands. ;D

Argentina? Don't see no Argentina on the Navalism map... Possible suspects I would think are (with the DKB no longer in the race) Rohan, Gran Columbia and Peru. Looking at the capabilities of those nations, I would say either Rohan or Gran Columbia.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Ithekro on July 13, 2007, 05:11:31 PM
Makes for a nice excuse to have warships in the South Pacific.  That also reminds me that I'm going to need to develop the area a little.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on September 11, 2007, 09:14:27 AM
I'm tinkering with the map Swampy cited, in order to display current ownership.  Can Desertfox or somebody else clarify whether the Swiss Home Islands are a larger version of Hawaii, or some other fictional land mass - and if the latter, where they are.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Korpen on September 11, 2007, 09:22:00 AM
Quote from: The Rock Doctor on September 11, 2007, 09:14:27 AM
I'm tinkering with the map Swampy cited, in order to display current ownership.  Can Desertfox or somebody else clarify whether the Swiss Home Islands are a larger version of Hawaii, or some other fictional land mass - and if the latter, where they are.
Preferably with cities and major infrastruce marked, as well a suitable landing beaches, the later will be relevant very soon...
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Desertfox on September 11, 2007, 09:26:00 AM
The Swiss Home Islands are a separate island group between the Hawaiian and Marshall Islands.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Borys on September 11, 2007, 09:29:09 AM
Ahoj!
The Swiss Home Islands are a fictional landmass.

What I found on the subject:
QuoteNew Switzerland is the cluster of large Islands between the Marshals and Hawaii.
and
QuoteHm, it's somewhere around Palmyra/Johnston then.

I have a very hazy idea as to where the mentioned locations are. They may - or not be - one and the same - I dunno ...

Borys
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on September 11, 2007, 09:30:29 AM
Thank you.  They have a shape on the itty-bitty Navalism maps we have - has this been borrowed from a historical land mass somewhere?

QuotePreferably with cities and major infrastruce marked, as well a suitable landing beaches

One thing at a time...
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Borys on September 11, 2007, 09:33:06 AM
Ahoj!
Looks a bit like Spitzbergen (Svalbard).
Borys
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Carthaginian on September 11, 2007, 10:41:47 AM
Would be nice to know about where everything is on those islands...
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Borys on September 11, 2007, 11:07:52 AM
Hopefully DF will get 'round to it someday ....

Borys
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Desertfox on September 11, 2007, 12:14:53 PM
I would be happy too, if someone could get me a decent map...
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on September 11, 2007, 12:17:48 PM
Gimme a sense of how big the Home Islands are supposed to be, and what you envision them to be like, and I'll sketch something onto the map in question.  You can tinker with it after that.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Ithekro on September 11, 2007, 12:35:37 PM
For a base I used Numanor and then cut it down into islands, so you might be able to use that fictional landmass for scale.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on September 11, 2007, 12:37:19 PM
Can you link me to a map?
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Borys on September 11, 2007, 12:41:09 PM
http://www.glyphweb.com/ARDA/n/numenor.html
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Ithekro on September 11, 2007, 12:42:34 PM
http://www.legolas.org/gallery/fantasymaps/album19/aae.jpg.html (http://www.legolas.org/gallery/fantasymaps/album19/aae.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Borys on September 11, 2007, 12:44:39 PM
Here be Elves ...


Wow! That link exploded the view to three screen widths!
Borys
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Ithekro on September 11, 2007, 12:46:55 PM
Oddly it is bigger but no more detailed.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Borys on September 11, 2007, 12:48:48 PM
Must be some trickery of Saruman the Off-White...
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Desertfox on September 11, 2007, 01:36:35 PM
Friggin Network Problems, this is the third time I try to respond.

Looking at the map the Swiss Home Islands seem to be around the size of Celebes/Phillipines/Britain.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Borys on September 11, 2007, 01:46:11 PM
c. 250-300,000 square km
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on September 12, 2007, 06:44:55 AM
Next question - is it technically possible to post a .png file larger than 750 pixels?  My previous efforts have been re-sized, and end up looking like crap.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: miketr on September 12, 2007, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: The Rock Doctor on September 12, 2007, 06:44:55 AM
Next question - is it technically possible to post a .png file larger than 750 pixels?  My previous efforts have been re-sized, and end up looking like crap.

Yes but its a forum setting that the owner has to change.  Right now all users can do is when they try to post an image is...

[img width= X height= Y][/img]

And if X and or Y are greater than the Maximum image dimensions setting the software resizes to match.  It should be a simple matter of going into the forum software and changing this setting.  It should be in the user documentation for the php software some place.

If this is like the current build of PHP the admin needs to go to...

-> Administration Control Panel
-> Posting Tab
-> Image Category Settings
-> Maximum image dimensions

Michael
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Borys on September 12, 2007, 11:10:14 AM
Ahoj!
Maybe post to photobucket and link?
Borys
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on September 12, 2007, 11:56:39 AM
That remains an option, though I'd rather simply post the image.  In a pinch, I might be able to find convenient chunks to cut the image into.

Anyway, that's a few days away from being an issue.  I've only done Tonga and eastward, which leaves plenty to go.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on October 20, 2007, 08:06:47 PM
This will no doubt be severly compressed as the original pic is about 2000 pixels wide; it's my understanding of Pacific ownership as of 1 July 1908.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/sharpj/oceania_Nav1.png)
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Walter on October 21, 2007, 06:10:34 AM
When I look at the main map, I get the impression that the Swiss Homeland should be much further to the East.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on October 21, 2007, 04:43:24 PM
How far?  "Between the Marshalls and Hawaii" was a bit vague...
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: Desertfox on October 21, 2007, 06:15:22 PM
Say 400 miles South East.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on October 21, 2007, 06:35:07 PM
More like this?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/sharpj/oceania_Nav3.png)

Three cheers for plate tectonics.
Title: Re: Pacific islands
Post by: The Rock Doctor on June 10, 2009, 07:46:20 PM
Bump, for Mike's benefit.