I've really got nothing else to do in 1907 except react to other people's news...Korpen, Foxy, Maddox: are you guys going to be a while still?
Actually I'll be starting a war in a few days. Doubt it'll affect GC much, that is unless GC decides it wants a piece of the pie... ;) (hint, hint)
Mmm...pie...
Quote from: The Rock Doctor on June 06, 2007, 08:35:25 AM
I've really got nothing else to do in 1907 except react to other people's news...Korpen, Foxy, Maddox: are you guys going to be a while still?
That's life. Sometimes you do it, sometimes you have it done to you ...
Borys
That's why i was advocating having say 2-3 years of fast play without international incidents which stretch time as it were dough.
Do we fast forward 1908&1909?
Borys
Depends on the actions of late 1907 (and the actions of March 1907 directly). One thinks he is about to start a war. Some image that there will be no war, just a lot a peeved countries to get the one to not go to war. Or something to that effect.
This whole mess is happening in September.
It's gonna be a LONG winter... ;)
Changes the position of the moon, but that might help the situation a bit.
I think we are ready to get to 1908 now.
I'm going to post my H2 report tonight.
Not too early? We are in February, I think.
Borys
I posted my H1 report a full month ago. If you guys are only in February, then I think you need to pick it up a little.
It has proved difficult to wade through a war involving at least six players when there are at least six fronts and multiple potential naval engagements. A lot of the engagements and news has not been release (I think), but there is fighting in Tasmania, New Guinea, Taiwan, Hainam, some of the islands of the East Indies, and some Pacific Islands, along with a probable border conflict in Australia and multiple raiders and invasion forces in motion across the Pacific and Indian Oceans. Plan have been changed monthly due to the rather fluid nature of the conflict. I expect things to get even worse in March and April unless the war ends in some fashion. (Some things in February are completed, other things have not been stated.)
And no, I will not use "Rock falls, everyone dies." That is way too easy, and the fallout will endanger Rohan and Columbia.
I recentlky suggested writing out orders up to June or July if possible, but just the nature of this war is making that very difficult.
(This is also why I like scripped conflicts.)
Quote from: Ithekro on August 12, 2007, 12:33:44 PM
It has proved difficult to wade through a war involving at least six players when there are at least six fronts and multiple potential naval engagements. A lot of the engagements and news has not been release (I think), but there is fighting in Tasmania, New Guinea, Taiwan, Hainam, some of the islands of the East Indies, and some Pacific Islands, along with a probable border conflict in Australia and multiple raiders and invasion forces in motion across the Pacific and Indian Oceans. Plan have been changed monthly due to the rather fluid nature of the conflict. I expect things to get even worse in March and April unless the war ends in some fashion. (Some things in February are completed, other things have not been stated.)
And no, I will not use "Rock falls, everyone dies." That is way too easy, and the fallout will endanger Rohan and Columbia.
I recentlky suggested writing out orders up to June or July if possible, but just the nature of this war is making that very difficult.
(This is also why I like scripped conflicts.)
What could (and should) we, the players, do to make things as easy and swift for You, the mods, as possible?
I can respect the fact that this is a complicated war and that you mods are quite busy with it. It is, however, very frustrating for me to see this unfold in real-time - especially when so little is being publically reported.
At the same time, I think you are all rushing to pack too many events into a given period of sim-time. There have been more major engagements, and arguably more surface vessels lost, in four months of this war than in all of WW1. You guys are fighting a hyper-war in an era of primitive wireless communication.
There needs to be some pacing, some limitation on operational tempo - neither the machines nor the people should be able to maintain this kind of pace. One or two major fleet actions per half-year. Mandatory rest/maintenance periods after major operations (or penalties to capability if ignored).
(Us neutrals can help, I think, by not selling heaps of ships to the belligerents - if they have to actually repair their damaged vessels, rather than ignore them and throw their new acquisitions into action, they may have to slow down to a reasonable pace.)
I agree with some of that.
As for how to correct that, well that is a little more problematic. With the majority of the players, they have a relatively small area to deal with in terms of forces and campaigns. The Swiss have to deal with all of them. Thus a dilema for when new fronts open up and one campaign stalls (or is successful quicker then expected) then making new troop or ship movement orders required either to counter a threat, or take advantage of a change in conditions. Of course all this reacting and acting is going to ware out the Swiss military in fairly short order if this keeps up for much longer. I mean they may be able to hold, but their striking ability will likely be shot in the shorts. And that is before we deal with what the Japanese have in mind.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Pinatubo_ash_plume_910612.jpg)
Rearranging the landscape a bit. That's what the Japanese have in mind. ;D
Walter, Iberia will NOT be amused. ;) ;D
Well don't blame me, this war would have been over by now had not everyone and their brother decided to join the party. ;) Doing my best to get the Febuary orders finished but like Ithekro said I have to deal with every Theater unlike everyone else, on top of real life.
I hope to have a few months' worth of orders ready soon - got delayed a bit.
QuoteWalter, Iberia will NOT be amused.
Well, it is not my fault that they own a ticking timebomb. :D
Ahoj!
Rock, I understand that you are bored. But so was I - and I will be again - when there are conflicts where I am not directly involved.
As to the multitude of engagments - it is a multi-front war, with huge fleets, waging independent operations. The is no issue of hyper-commmunications. If my Schlachtgeshwader is off Tasmania in January, it may be in the NOI in March - no sooner. The thing is - I repeat - that there are so many separate Squadrons out there.
To make it less boring for yopu and other neutrals I will be less secretive.
Borys
Personally, I like the slow flow of action... currently my life is going a bit fast, so it's nice to let my imagination have time to catch up. Of course, wars can't last forever- especially not with this attrition rate- but its been nice not to have to worry about getting everything ready for running a country while I was also trying ot get ready for nursing school.
Well... one thought would be to just declare an end to the war and hand out the results. Other than the Fox I don't think anyone in the game really doubts the final outcome of the war.
Michael
Well, I've got initial budgets for the next 2 halves and will work out more details for them and the next couple this week. It can come sooner or later- I really don't mind.
Wars take time. If this one keeps on rolling, so be it.
I'm not bored in the least. :)
Well I have plenty of tricks up my sleeves, and as long as the NSN survives, NS cannot be defeated. Note, that I have offered peace as is, but there have been no takers.
In the past few months I've been more or less plagued by a severe lack of inspiration, and at the rare instances when I did have inspiration my illness or other activities kept me from writing, hence I would forget what I wanted to write, hence it was lost again. I'm deeply sorry for this and I hope I'll be better soon. It doesn't help that my obsession with cats, and the 4 magnificent felines in my household especially, has been a serious distraction as well. See: "lolcats" (and I can proudly state my feline friends have been featered there).
I am reading the Honor Harrington series (David Weber) again. And a few Clive Cusslers. Maybe that'll get me in the mood.
But the war for me has been straightforward: kick the NS out of the Islands, have half of my boaties patrol around those, and have some of my other tubs assist the Dutch elsewhere. So I'm not really needed for marching orders.
Been occupied elsewhere the last week or so, but am back in the flow now.
I used to like the Weber books so much, but he started losing me later in the series. For me, the first two Harringtons are far and away the best of the bunch.
Phoenix, a series that might interest you is by a guy called James Cobb - three or four near-future books about a USN officer and her stealth destroyer's exploits.
The war has been straightforward for me, too: don't get directly involved, take advantage of participants where feasible.
My problem with the HH series is at this point I am actively rooting for the "Peeps". War of Honor played a big part of this and At All Costs settled it. I so wanted the Haven assault to take down Manticore. Also Weber needs an editor badly at least since Honor Among Enemies if not from Field of Dishonor. Over all many of his books are hard reads other than the early ones. His worst trait is to fall in love with numbers and firepower; you see this worst in Heirs of Empire first two books and the last two Starfire novels but its now crept into HH.
Michael
Exactly. Things just got bloated and battles became about massed firepower rather than individual tactics. After a while, it's difficult to comprehend the scale of what's happening.
It happens to be the same reason I enjoyed the first Lord of the Rings movie more than the others.
Oh I rather like the escalation you see in the last HH books. Weber's been building up to that last battle in At All Costs and the figures are staggering indeed but there is still some tactics involved. Don't forget the series is a tale of the career of an admiral and she just had to go from individual battles as a captain to the massive wars as an admiral. I do wonder however if AAC will have a sequel. After having Honor killing off 1.7 million of her enemies in one single battle it's hard to find something to top it. ;D Of course Mesa might prove interesting - they don't respect the Eridani Edict. And produce Scrags.
Am I bloodthirsty ? Because I like John Ringo's books (the Aldenata Series) too. And Eric Flint's (Prince Roger). The former's books are leaking yellow ichor and red blood from every page, the latter's are leaking body fluids of various colours and substances from every page. And even when they cooperate (Ring of Fire) you still get casualties galore. Described in loving detail.
Oh well. I guess I have been spoiled the day my history teacher asked me to research the Battle of Kadesh. I was 14 at the time. And hooked. ;D
Ahoj!
Battle of Kadesh ... mmmm .... off the top of my head - Hitties and Egyptians?
Borys
Yeah. Some bloke called Ramses getting his behiney reamed until he got out of the ambush with a strong dose of that good old-fashioned luck and some really good troops.
Mind you... 5.000 chariots in one battle. Must have been one hell of a job for the cleaning-stable-detail.
Quote from: Phoenix on August 20, 2007, 08:46:14 AM
Mind you... 5.000 chariots in one battle. Must have been one hell of a job for the cleaning-stable-detail.
They didn't clean up the horses waste or there own, hence why in those days illness killed 10 to 1 compared to battlefield losses.