RGB125 are from1890-1894
They need replacement
Kotu, Byzantine Empire 100t River Gunboat laid down 1932
Displacement:
100 t light; 120 t standard; 122 t normal; 125 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(124,67 ft / 124,67 ft) x 19,69 ft x (3,77 / 3,82 ft)
(38,00 m / 38,00 m) x 6,00 m x (1,15 / 1,16 m)
Armament:
2 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 6 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 71 lbs / 32 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 0,59" / 15 mm 82,02 ft / 25,00 m 4,92 ft / 1,50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,59" / 15 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 0,39" / 10 mm
Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion generators, plus diesel motors,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 160 shp / 120 Kw = 11,06 kts
Range 1 000nm at 8,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5 tons
Complement:
17 - 23
Cost:
£0,035 million / $0,140 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 13 tons, 10,6 %
- Guns: 13 tons, 10,6 %
Armour: 26 tons, 21,3 %
- Belts: 10 tons, 8,4 %
- Armament: 7 tons, 5,3 %
- Armour Deck: 9 tons, 7,6 %
Machinery: 5 tons, 3,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 44 tons, 35,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 23 tons, 18,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 12 tons, 9,8 %
- On freeboard deck: 12 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
336 lbs / 152 Kg = 10,4 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,43
Metacentric height 0,8 ft / 0,2 m
Roll period: 9,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,19
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,20
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,463 / 0,465
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,33 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 11,17 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 41 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 5,25 ft / 1,60 m
- Forward deck: 32,00 %, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m
- Aft deck: 32,00 %, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m
- Quarter deck: 18,00 %, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m
- Average freeboard: 4,27 ft / 1,30 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 53,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 69,4 %
Waterplane Area: 1 583 Square feet or 147 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 150 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 26 lbs/sq ft or 125 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,52
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
climatisation
12t reserved for sails or different materials
You could take that down to 0.75 hull strength if you want more protection or speed.
Finaly, they could be laid down in 1931
Kotu, Byzantine Empire 100t River Gunboat laid down 1931
Displacement:
100 t light; 127 t standard; 130 t normal; 132 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(124,67 ft / 124,67 ft) x 19,69 ft x (3,94 / 3,99 ft)
(38,00 m / 38,00 m) x 6,00 m x (1,20 / 1,22 m)
Armament:
2 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 250 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1931 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1931 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 6 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1931 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 75 lbs / 34 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 0,79" / 20 mm 82,02 ft / 25,00 m 5,91 ft / 1,80 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 0,59" / 15 mm
Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion generators,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 170 shp / 127 Kw = 11,13 kts
Range 1 000nm at 8,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5 tons
Complement:
18 - 24
Cost:
£0,035 million / $0,139 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 14 tons, 10,7 %
- Guns: 14 tons, 10,7 %
Armour: 36 tons, 27,8 %
- Belts: 16 tons, 12,7 %
- Armament: 6 tons, 4,3 %
- Armour Deck: 14 tons, 10,8 %
Machinery: 5 tons, 3,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 31 tons, 23,8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 30 tons, 23,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 14 tons, 10,8 %
- On freeboard deck: 14 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
240 lbs / 109 Kg = 7,4 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,46
Metacentric height 0,8 ft / 0,3 m
Roll period: 9,0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 77 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,20
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,29
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,470 / 0,472
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,33 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 11,17 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 6,56 ft / 2,00 m, 5,91 ft / 1,80 m
- Forward deck: 32,00 %, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m
- Aft deck: 32,00 %, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m
- Quarter deck: 18,00 %, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m, 3,94 ft / 1,20 m
- Average freeboard: 4,34 ft / 1,32 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 58,2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 65,9 %
Waterplane Area: 1 592 Square feet or 148 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 19 lbs/sq ft or 94 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,71
- Longitudinal: 1,16
- Overall: 0,75
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
climatisation
14t reserved for sails or different materials
Not bad, but you need to set aside 3t for the diesel-electric machinery below water.
D15, Byzantine Empire D15 laid down 1932
Displacement:
1 600 t light; 1 708 t standard; 1 998 t normal; 2 230 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(390,96 ft / 387,14 ft) x 36,42 ft x (12,10 / 13,03 ft)
(119,16 m / 118,00 m) x 11,10 m x (3,69 / 3,97 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 400 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 1,86lbs / 0,84kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 1,86lbs / 0,84kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 247 lbs / 112 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 38 279 shp / 28 556 Kw = 32,59 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 522 tons
Complement:
149 - 194
Cost:
£0,934 million / $3,736 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 38 tons, 1,9 %
- Guns: 38 tons, 1,9 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,2 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 999 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 461 tons, 23,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 399 tons, 20,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 98 tons, 4,9 %
- On freeboard deck: 69 tons
- Above deck: 29 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
565 lbs / 256 Kg = 12,5 x 4,5 " / 114 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,31
Metacentric height 1,8 ft / 0,5 m
Roll period: 11,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,16
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,04
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,410 / 0,425
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,63 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19,68 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 21,65 ft / 6,60 m, 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 16,90 ft / 5,15 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 11,15 ft / 3,40 m, 11,81 ft / 3,60 m
- Average freeboard: 13,86 ft / 4,22 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 169,2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146,0 %
Waterplane Area: 8 731 Square feet or 811 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 81 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 154 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,08
- Overall: 0,54
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
4t for1924 top mast rangefinder
25t for LR marconi
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
10t for1920 sonar
7t for 35x195 DC
20t reserved for new material, paravanes, armament, minen.
AW
climatisation
Trial speed: 33 kts
Bonus: 0.42
C16, Byzantine Empire AGB3000 laid down 1932
Displacement:
3 000 t light; 3 178 t standard; 3 426 t normal; 3 624 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(439,60 ft / 436,35 ft) x 45,93 ft x (13,72 / 14,27 ft)
(133,99 m / 133,00 m) x 14,00 m x (4,18 / 4,35 m)
Armament:
6 - 5,24" / 133 mm 50,0 cal guns - 80,01lbs / 36,29kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1932 Model
3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 496 lbs / 225 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,15" / 80 mm 301,08 ft / 91,77 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 135,24 ft / 41,22 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m
Main Belt covers 106 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,98" / 25 mm 0,59" / 15 mm 0,59" / 15 mm
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 0,79" / 20 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,15" / 80 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 32 340 shp / 24 126 Kw = 29,00 kts
Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 446 tons
Complement:
223 - 291
Cost:
£1,308 million / $5,231 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 149 tons, 4,3 %
- Guns: 149 tons, 4,3 %
Armour: 767 tons, 22,4 %
- Belts: 425 tons, 12,4 %
- Armament: 18 tons, 0,5 %
- Armour Deck: 303 tons, 8,8 %
- Conning Towers: 21 tons, 0,6 %
Machinery: 955 tons, 27,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 046 tons, 30,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 426 tons, 12,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 84 tons, 2,5 %
- On freeboard deck: 44 tons
- Above deck: 40 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
3 126 lbs / 1 418 Kg = 43,5 x 5,2 " / 133 mm shells or 0,9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 2,0 ft / 0,6 m
Roll period: 13,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,38
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,16
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,436 / 0,443
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20,89 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,00 %, 23,13 ft / 7,05 m, 18,70 ft / 5,70 m
- Forward deck: 34,00 %, 18,70 ft / 5,70 m, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m
- Aft deck: 35,00 %, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m, 12,47 ft / 3,80 m
- Quarter deck: 14,00 %, 12,47 ft / 3,80 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
- Average freeboard: 15,61 ft / 4,76 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106,1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 161,8 %
Waterplane Area: 12 643 Square feet or 1 175 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 56 lbs/sq ft or 273 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,71
- Longitudinal: 1,19
- Overall: 0,75
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
15t for1924 top mast rangefinder
25t for LR marconi
OD
16t for 1x4TTx533HW
28t reserved for new material, paravanes, armament, minen.
AW
climatisation
It's a good general purpose ship. I'd worry that it's too slow to escape other cruisers, too lightly armored to withstand 155mm+ shell fire, and too lightly armed to seriously duel most of the cruisers running around.
Good for colonial station use though.
QuoteIt's a good general purpose ship. I'd worry that it's too slow to escape other cruisers, too lightly armored to withstand 155mm+ shell fire, and too lightly armed to seriously duel most of the cruisers running around.
Good for colonial station use though.
Byzantium has 27kts cruisers and AGBs in these colonies.
-24 cruisers from 4750t to 6750t with 191mm guns.
-6 cruisers from 7450t to 13000t with 234 & 254mm guns.
-14 x 3000t Armored Gun Boat with 152 & 191mm guns.
Class C16 would be assigned to colonies as well.
27kts speed and improved shielding would be better suited to working with these "buddies".
C16, Byzantine Empire 3000t-Colonial Armored Gun Boat laid down 1932
Displacement:
3 000 t light; 3 213 t standard; 3 463 t normal; 3 664 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(439,60 ft / 436,35 ft) x 45,93 ft x (12,76 / 13,30 ft)
(133,99 m / 133,00 m) x 14,00 m x (3,89 / 4,05 m)
Armament:
8 - 5,24" / 133 mm 50,0 cal guns - 80,01lbs / 36,29kg shells, 350 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1932 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
4 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 657 lbs / 298 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 287,99 ft / 87,78 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 148,33 ft / 45,21 m 8,14 ft / 2,48 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,98" / 25 mm 0,59" / 15 mm 0,59" / 15 mm
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
Forecastle: 0,98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 24 950 shp / 18 612 Kw = 27,00 kts
Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 451 tons
Complement:
225 - 293
Cost:
£1,242 million / $4,969 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 197 tons, 5,7 %
- Guns: 197 tons, 5,7 %
Armour: 878 tons, 25,4 %
- Belts: 511 tons, 14,8 %
- Armament: 24 tons, 0,7 %
- Armour Deck: 318 tons, 9,2 %
- Conning Towers: 25 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 736 tons, 21,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 062 tons, 30,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 463 tons, 13,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 126 tons, 3,6 %
- Hull below water: 15 tons
- On freeboard deck: 66 tons
- Above deck: 45 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
4 011 lbs / 1 819 Kg = 55,9 x 5,2 " / 133 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
Metacentric height 2,0 ft / 0,6 m
Roll period: 13,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,54
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,27
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,474 / 0,481
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20,89 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 23,13 ft / 7,05 m, 18,86 ft / 5,75 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 18,86 ft / 5,75 m, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 14,44 ft / 4,40 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
- Quarter deck: 16,50 %, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 13,78 ft / 4,20 m
- Average freeboard: 15,86 ft / 4,83 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 90,1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 168,1 %
Waterplane Area: 13 047 Square feet or 1 212 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 57 lbs/sq ft or 279 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,71
- Longitudinal: 1,17
- Overall: 0,75
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
AD
20t for top mast rangefinder - 1924 FC
25t for LR Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx533 HW
25t for seaplane + cata
17t reserved for new material, armament...
AW
climatisation
BW
15t for additionnal pumps
1932 AC10 with 3T3x234
Jesbak - Jukhos, Byzantine Empire AC10 laid down 1932
Displacement:
11 900 t light; 12 558 t standard; 13 708 t normal; 14 628 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(621,63 ft / 616,80 ft) x 77,10 ft x (18,86 / 19,84 ft)
(189,47 m / 188,00 m) x 23,50 m x (5,75 / 6,05 m)
Armament:
9 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 418,88lbs / 190,00kg shells, 110 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 1 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 6 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4 499 lbs / 2 041 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 413,25 ft / 125,96 m 10,53 ft / 3,21 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 203,51 ft / 62,03 m 10,53 ft / 3,21 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 413,25 ft / 125,96 m 17,13 ft / 5,22 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 60,60 ft / 18,47 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 6,69" / 170 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 5,51" / 140 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,97" / 50 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 72 000 shp / 53 712 Kw = 29,01 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 070 tons
Complement:
633 - 823
Cost:
£5,178 million / $20,712 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 292 tons, 9,4 %
- Guns: 1 292 tons, 9,4 %
Armour: 3 179 tons, 23,2 %
- Belts: 952 tons, 6,9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 412 tons, 3,0 %
- Armament: 576 tons, 4,2 %
- Armour Deck: 1 165 tons, 8,5 %
- Conning Towers: 73 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 2 125 tons, 15,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4 885 tons, 35,6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 807 tons, 13,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 419 tons, 3,1 %
- Hull below water: 58 tons
- Hull above water: 58 tons
- On freeboard deck: 149 tons
- Above deck: 154 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
20 541 lbs / 9 317 Kg = 52,5 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 3,5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12
Metacentric height 4,2 ft / 1,3 m
Roll period: 15,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,55
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,06
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,535 / 0,543
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 27,40 ft / 8,35 m, 23,13 ft / 7,05 m
- Forward deck: 34,00 %, 23,13 ft / 7,05 m, 18,21 ft / 5,55 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 18,21 ft / 5,55 m, 16,24 ft / 4,95 m
- Quarter deck: 15,00 %, 16,24 ft / 4,95 m, 16,24 ft / 4,95 m
- Average freeboard: 19,62 ft / 5,98 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 186,8 %
Waterplane Area: 32 726 Square feet or 3 040 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 115 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 133 lbs/sq ft or 651 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,98
- Longitudinal: 1,21
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
129t for top mast rangefinder - 1930
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21"HW
5t for cata
50t for 2 armed seaplanes
70t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
58t for additionnal pumps
1932 AC10 with 4T3x234
Jesbak - Jukhos, Byzantine Empire AC10 laid down 1932
Displacement:
13 450 t light; 14 219 t standard; 15 452 t normal; 16 438 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(621,72 ft / 616,80 ft) x 80,38 ft x (20,02 / 21,02 ft)
(189,50 m / 188,00 m) x 24,50 m x (6,10 / 6,41 m)
Armament:
12 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 418,88lbs / 190,00kg shells, 110 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
4 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 1 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 6 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5 756 lbs / 2 611 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4,72" / 120 mm 419,42 ft / 127,84 m 10,76 ft / 3,28 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 197,34 ft / 60,15 m 10,76 ft / 3,28 m
Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 419,42 ft / 127,84 m 18,31 ft / 5,58 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 63,98 ft / 19,50 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 6,69" / 170 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 5,51" / 140 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,97" / 50 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 4,72" / 120 mm, Aft 1,18" / 30 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 78 200 shp / 58 337 Kw = 29,01 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 219 tons
Complement:
692 - 900
Cost:
£6,142 million / $24,569 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 686 tons, 10,9 %
- Guns: 1 686 tons, 10,9 %
Armour: 3 529 tons, 22,8 %
- Belts: 986 tons, 6,4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 447 tons, 2,9 %
- Armament: 788 tons, 5,1 %
- Armour Deck: 1 228 tons, 7,9 %
- Conning Towers: 79 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 2 308 tons, 14,9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 469 tons, 35,4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 002 tons, 13,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 459 tons, 3,0 %
- Hull below water: 58 tons
- Hull above water: 58 tons
- On freeboard deck: 149 tons
- Above deck: 194 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
21 341 lbs / 9 680 Kg = 54,6 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 3,5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05
Metacentric height 4,0 ft / 1,2 m
Roll period: 16,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,69
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,545 / 0,552
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,67 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 27,89 ft / 8,50 m, 23,62 ft / 7,20 m
- Forward deck: 34,00 %, 23,62 ft / 7,20 m, 18,70 ft / 5,70 m
- Aft deck: 34,00 %, 18,70 ft / 5,70 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Quarter deck: 14,50 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 17,39 ft / 5,30 m
- Average freeboard: 20,20 ft / 6,16 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 104,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 185,0 %
Waterplane Area: 34 439 Square feet or 3 199 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 145 lbs/sq ft or 707 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,97
- Longitudinal: 1,27
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
169t for top mast rangefinder - 1930
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21"HW
5t for cata
50t for 2 armed seaplanes
70t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
58t for additionnal pumps
1932 AC10 to Panzerschiff
Jesbak - Jukhos, Byzantine Empire AC10 laid down 1932
Displacement:
15 000 t light; 15 828 t standard; 17 128 t normal; 18 168 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(621,72 ft / 616,80 ft) x 78,74 ft x (22,24 / 23,31 ft)
(189,50 m / 188,00 m) x 24,00 m x (6,78 / 7,10 m)
Armament:
6 - 12,01" / 305 mm 51,0 cal guns - 947,99lbs / 430,00kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 6 417 lbs / 2 911 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 444,09 ft / 135,36 m 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 172,67 ft / 52,63 m 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
Main Belt covers 111 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,77" / 45 mm 444,09 ft / 135,36 m 20,47 ft / 6,24 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 62,34 ft / 19,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10,2" / 260 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 7,87" / 200 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,56" / 65 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 95 024 shp / 70 888 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 340 tons
Complement:
748 - 973
Cost:
£6,956 million / $27,823 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 479 tons, 8,6 %
- Guns: 1 479 tons, 8,6 %
Armour: 4 582 tons, 26,7 %
- Belts: 1 627 tons, 9,5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 596 tons, 3,5 %
- Armament: 643 tons, 3,8 %
- Armour Deck: 1 546 tons, 9,0 %
- Conning Towers: 169 tons, 1,0 %
Machinery: 2 805 tons, 16,4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 718 tons, 33,4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 128 tons, 12,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 417 tons, 2,4 %
- Hull below water: 75 tons
- Hull above water: 58 tons
- On freeboard deck: 111 tons
- Above deck: 173 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
21 748 lbs / 9 865 Kg = 25,1 x 12,0 " / 305 mm shells or 3,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
Metacentric height 4,2 ft / 1,3 m
Roll period: 16,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,65
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,02
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,555 / 0,562
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,83 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 14,50 %, 27,89 ft / 8,50 m, 23,62 ft / 7,20 m
- Forward deck: 35,50 %, 23,62 ft / 7,20 m, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m
- Aft deck: 36,50 %, 19,03 ft / 5,80 m, 17,39 ft / 5,30 m
- Quarter deck: 13,50 %, 17,39 ft / 5,30 m, 17,39 ft / 5,30 m
- Average freeboard: 20,24 ft / 6,17 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110,2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 171,2 %
Waterplane Area: 34 054 Square feet or 3 164 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 104 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 145 lbs/sq ft or 707 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,41
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
148t for top mast rangefinder - 1930
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21"HW
5t for cata
50t for 2 armed seaplanes
32t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
75t for additionnal pumps
Of the three, I think the panzerschiff is the best-balanced. The 9- and 12-gun ships seem under-armored and too slow to work cruiser roles.
QuoteOf the three, I think the panzerschiff is the best-balanced. The 9- and 12-gun ships seem under-armored and too slow to work cruiser roles.
This is also my preference. I love the Panzerschiff style.
The Panzerschiffe is going to have the right amount of armor to fight in its class against the other ships with 9-11in guns running around. The 12in gun has the punch. That being said, if you're trying to kill cruisers, for the weight the 12 gun design is probably best. Or make the 9 gun design just a little heavier and buff its armor to over 6in.
I look at your designs and see how inefficient mine are.....for the record.
QuoteThe Panzerschiffe is going to have the right amount of armor to fight in its class against the other ships with 9-11in guns running around. The 12in gun has the punch. That being said, if you're trying to kill cruisers, for the weight the 12 gun design is probably best. Or make the 9 gun design just a little heavier and buff its armor to over 6in.
I am actually planning the 4T3x234 on the 15000t Panzerschiff hull.
4T3x234 shells are lighter but the quantity of shells fired is triple than 2T3x305. The probability of hitting is therefore higher.
QuoteI look at your designs and see how inefficient mine are.....for the record.
I will say that older designs are not as good as today's.
QuoteI am actually planning the 4T3x234 on the 15000t Panzerschiff hull.
4T3x234 shells are lighter but the quantity of shells fired is triple than 2T3x305. The probability of hitting is therefore higher.
15000t is the max for 4HY report
Jesbak - Jukhos, Byzantine Empire AC10 laid down 1932Displacement:
15 000 t light; 15 791 t standard; 17 085 t normal; 18 120 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(621,83 ft / 616,80 ft) x 82,19 ft x (22,68 / 23,74 ft)
(189,53 m / 188,00 m) x 25,05 m x (6,91 / 7,24 m)
Armament:
12 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 418,88lbs / 190,00kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
4 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5 756 lbs / 2 611 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5,91" / 150 mm 433,01 ft / 131,98 m 10,89 ft / 3,32 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 183,79 ft / 56,02 m 10,89 ft / 3,32 m
Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,77" / 45 mm 433,01 ft / 131,98 m 20,34 ft / 6,20 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 63,98 ft / 19,50 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 6,69" / 170 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 5,91" / 150 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,56" / 65 mm
Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 7,87" / 200 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 93 860 shp / 70 020 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 329 tons
Complement:
746 - 971
Cost:
£6,683 million / $26,732 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 686 tons, 9,9 %
- Guns: 1 686 tons, 9,9 %
Armour: 4 415 tons, 25,8 %
- Belts: 1 251 tons, 7,3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 577 tons, 3,4 %
- Armament: 848 tons, 5,0 %
- Armour Deck: 1 570 tons, 9,2 %
- Conning Towers: 169 tons, 1,0 %
Machinery: 2 770 tons, 16,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 665 tons, 33,2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 084 tons, 12,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 465 tons, 2,7 %
- Hull below water: 75 tons
- Hull above water: 75 tons
- On freeboard deck: 121 tons
- Above deck: 194 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
22 455 lbs / 10 186 Kg = 57,4 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 3,7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05
Metacentric height 4,1 ft / 1,2 m
Roll period: 17,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,65
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,520 / 0,527
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 15,40 %, 28,54 ft / 8,70 m, 24,93 ft / 7,60 m
- Forward deck: 35,10 %, 24,93 ft / 7,60 m, 19,36 ft / 5,90 m
- Aft deck: 35,10 %, 19,36 ft / 5,90 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Quarter deck: 14,40 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Average freeboard: 20,68 ft / 6,30 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 108,0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 177,2 %
Waterplane Area: 34 401 Square feet or 3 196 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 148 lbs/sq ft or 722 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,97
- Longitudinal: 1,41
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
169t for top mast rangefinder - 1930
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21"HW
5t for cata
50t for 2 armed seaplanes
42t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
75t for additionnal pumps
Yep, that's what I'd do. 6in is marginal when facing down 9 and 10in guns, but you can't get more belt without more tonnage.
Definitely proof against anything smaller though, comfortably so. And not only do you have twice the guns, they individually have a faster rate of fire than a 12in gun.
Only thing it'll struggle with is the rare older battlecruiser like mine with 8x11im and the armor to tank 9in shells.
Quote...Only thing it'll struggle with is the rare older battlecruiser like mine with 8x11im and the armor to tank 9in shells...
It is not surprising that a 15000t is sunk by a 26000t.
A lighter version for the AC cruiser
12380t Cruiser, Byzantine Empire AC-3T3x234 laid down 1932
Displacement:
12 380 t light; 13 027 t standard; 14 181 t normal; 15 104 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(621,63 ft / 616,80 ft) x 77,10 ft x (22,49 / 23,55 ft)
(189,47 m / 188,00 m) x 23,50 m x (6,86 / 7,18 m)
Armament:
9 - 9,21" / 234 mm 51,0 cal guns - 420,00lbs / 190,51kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
3 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4 509 lbs / 2 045 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5,91" / 150 mm 427,13 ft / 130,19 m 10,53 ft / 3,21 m
Ends: 1,18" / 30 mm 189,63 ft / 57,80 m 10,53 ft / 3,21 m
Main Belt covers 107 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 427,13 ft / 130,19 m 18,90 ft / 5,76 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 60,70 ft / 18,50 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 2,36" / 60 mm 4,72" / 120 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,97" / 50 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 6,69" / 170 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 80 520 shp / 60 068 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 12 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 077 tons
Complement:
649 - 844
Cost:
£5,413 million / $21,654 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 055 tons, 7,4 %
- Guns: 1 055 tons, 7,4 %
Armour: 3 579 tons, 25,2 %
- Belts: 1 187 tons, 8,4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 470 tons, 3,3 %
- Armament: 499 tons, 3,5 %
- Armour Deck: 1 289 tons, 9,1 %
- Conning Towers: 134 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 2 377 tons, 16,8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 034 tons, 35,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 801 tons, 12,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 336 tons, 2,4 %
- Hull below water: 62 tons
- Hull above water: 60 tons
- On freeboard deck: 84 tons
- Above deck: 130 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19 367 lbs / 8 785 Kg = 49,5 x 9,2 " / 234 mm shells or 3,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,13
Metacentric height 4,3 ft / 1,3 m
Roll period: 15,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,53
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,14
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,464 / 0,472
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16,00 %, 27,40 ft / 8,35 m, 22,80 ft / 6,95 m
- Forward deck: 34,75 %, 22,80 ft / 6,95 m, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m
- Aft deck: 34,50 %, 17,72 ft / 5,40 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 14,75 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 19,29 ft / 5,88 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 106,1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 168,1 %
Waterplane Area: 30 691 Square feet or 2 851 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 135 lbs/sq ft or 661 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,40
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
105t for top fire control
25t for Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx21" HW
30t for cata + seaplane
30t reserved
AW
Climatisation
BW
62t for additionnal pumps
Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-60 aircrafts laid down 1932
Pusuldeniz - Kripodeniz,
Displacement:
20 940 t light; 21 734 t standard; 23 583 t normal; 25 062 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(730,76 ft / 728,35 ft) x 91,86 ft x (24,67 / 25,83 ft)
(222,74 m / 222,00 m) x 28,00 m x (7,52 / 7,87 m)
Armament:
8 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1932 Model
8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
16 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 340 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
24 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2 178 lbs / 988 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1,97" / 50 mm 684,65 ft / 208,68 m 11,52 ft / 3,51 m
Ends: 1,97" / 50 mm 43,67 ft / 13,31 m 11,52 ft / 3,51 m
Main Belt covers 145 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,97" / 50 mm 684,65 ft / 208,68 m 21,72 ft / 6,62 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72,18 ft / 22,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1,57" / 40 mm - -
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,97" / 50 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 105 820 shp / 78 942 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 10 000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3 328 tons
Complement:
950 - 1 236
Cost:
£5,814 million / $23,255 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 358 tons, 1,5 %
- Guns: 358 tons, 1,5 %
Armour: 3 378 tons, 14,3 %
- Belts: 641 tons, 2,7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1 083 tons, 4,6 %
- Armament: 37 tons, 0,2 %
- Armour Deck: 1 617 tons, 6,9 %
Machinery: 3 123 tons, 13,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 280 tons, 35,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 643 tons, 11,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 5 800 tons, 24,6 %
- Hull below water: 250 tons
- Hull above water: 2 820 tons
- On freeboard deck: 2 670 tons
- Above deck: 60 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
61 780 lbs / 28 023 Kg = 290,6 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 9,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 5,6 ft / 1,7 m
Roll period: 16,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,14
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2,00
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,507
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,93 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,99 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 6,00 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Forward deck: 47,00 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Aft deck: 47,00 %, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m, 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Quarter deck: 0,00 %, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m, 19,69 ft / 6,00 m
- Average freeboard: 38,27 ft / 11,66 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 63,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 351,6 %
Waterplane Area: 44 579 Square feet or 4 142 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 143 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 589 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,87
- Longitudinal: 3,41
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
misc weight:
AD
25t for LR Marconi
35t for 1924 fire control
OD
2400t for 30 aircrafts
120t for Climatisation
150t for Fire Fighting
HAW
2400t for 30 aircrafts
120t for Climatisation
150t for Fire Fighting
150t for aircrafts spare parts
HBW
100t for additionnal pumps
150t reserved for material...
Pretty capable.
Quote from: TacCovert4 on March 25, 2024, 05:27:42 PMOnly thing it'll struggle with is the rare older battlecruiser like mine with 8x11im and the armor to tank 9in shells.
That would be the Japanese fleet.
The Parthians do not have anything like that, we just have 8 ACs with 8x255/47 guns and 195-200mm belt armor. The more recent Zemekas are slightly faster at 31knots... I guess the two Dahae could be called 'battlecruiser' but we prefer 'heavy armored cruiser'.
The NPCs are sadly undeveloped.
Testing for 1932 a 27kts Koloni II
Koloni II, Byzantine Empire Koloni II laid down 1932
Displacement:
20 750 t light; 22 027 t standard; 23 365 t normal; 24 435 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(621,63 ft / 616,80 ft) x 88,58 ft x (23,91 / 24,82 ft)
(189,47 m / 188,00 m) x 27,00 m x (7,29 / 7,57 m)
Armament:
6 - 15,00" / 381 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 920,01lbs / 870,90kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
8 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 12 249 lbs / 5 556 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12,6" / 320 mm 413,25 ft / 125,96 m 11,29 ft / 3,44 m
Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 203,51 ft / 62,03 m 11,29 ft / 3,44 m
Upper: 1,57" / 40 mm 413,25 ft / 125,96 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,77" / 45 mm 413,25 ft / 125,96 m 22,77 ft / 6,94 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 68,90 ft / 21,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,4" / 340 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 11,0" / 280 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 2,76" / 70 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 11,81" / 300 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 79 232 shp / 59 107 Kw = 27,00 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 408 tons
Complement:
944 - 1 228
Cost:
£9,245 million / $36,980 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 182 tons, 9,3 %
- Guns: 2 182 tons, 9,3 %
Armour: 7 753 tons, 33,2 %
- Belts: 2 885 tons, 12,3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 617 tons, 2,6 %
- Armament: 1 190 tons, 5,1 %
- Armour Deck: 2 784 tons, 11,9 %
- Conning Towers: 277 tons, 1,2 %
Machinery: 2 339 tons, 10,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 7 972 tons, 34,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 614 tons, 11,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 505 tons, 2,2 %
- Hull below water: 100 tons
- On freeboard deck: 162 tons
- Above deck: 243 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
32 954 lbs / 14 948 Kg = 19,5 x 15,0 " / 381 mm shells or 5,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
Metacentric height 5,1 ft / 1,6 m
Roll period: 16,5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,76
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,03
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,631
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,96 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,00 %, 27,40 ft / 8,35 m, 22,80 ft / 6,95 m
- Forward deck: 33,50 %, 22,80 ft / 6,95 m, 18,21 ft / 5,55 m
- Aft deck: 33,50 %, 18,21 ft / 5,55 m, 16,08 ft / 4,90 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 16,08 ft / 4,90 m, 16,08 ft / 4,90 m
- Average freeboard: 19,37 ft / 5,90 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92,9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 155,5 %
Waterplane Area: 40 940 Square feet or 3 803 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 173 lbs/sq ft or 846 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,44
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
218t fire control
25t Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx533HW
100t for Flag Ship
38t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
100t for extra pump installation
... Update to 29kts
Koloni III, Byzantine Empire Koloni III laid down 1932
Displacement:
23 850 t light; 25 193 t standard; 26 672 t normal; 27 856 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(736,89 ft / 731,63 ft) x 88,58 ft x (24,62 / 25,51 ft)
(224,60 m / 223,00 m) x 27,00 m x (7,51 / 7,78 m)
Armament:
6 - 15,00" / 381 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 920,01lbs / 870,90kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
8 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 12 249 lbs / 5 556 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12,6" / 320 mm 497,51 ft / 151,64 m 11,29 ft / 3,44 m
Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 234,09 ft / 71,35 m 11,29 ft / 3,44 m
Upper: 1,57" / 40 mm 497,51 ft / 151,64 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,77" / 45 mm 497,51 ft / 151,64 m 23,06 ft / 7,03 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 68,90 ft / 21,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,4" / 340 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 11,0" / 280 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 2,76" / 70 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 11,81" / 300 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 102 969 shp / 76 815 Kw = 29,00 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 663 tons
Complement:
1 043 - 1 356
Cost:
£10,184 million / $40,736 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 182 tons, 8,2 %
- Guns: 2 182 tons, 8,2 %
Armour: 8 819 tons, 33,1 %
- Belts: 3 373 tons, 12,6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 752 tons, 2,8 %
- Armament: 1 201 tons, 4,5 %
- Armour Deck: 3 190 tons, 12,0 %
- Conning Towers: 303 tons, 1,1 %
Machinery: 3 039 tons, 11,4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 286 tons, 34,8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 822 tons, 10,6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 524 tons, 2,0 %
- Hull below water: 105 tons
- On freeboard deck: 176 tons
- Above deck: 243 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
37 781 lbs / 17 137 Kg = 22,4 x 15,0 " / 381 mm shells or 5,9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
Metacentric height 5,0 ft / 1,5 m
Roll period: 16,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,75
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,11
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,585 / 0,590
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,26 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27,05 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 16,50 %, 29,86 ft / 9,10 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forward deck: 34,00 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 18,37 ft / 5,60 m
- Aft deck: 34,00 %, 18,37 ft / 5,60 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 15,50 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 19,73 ft / 6,01 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 162,4 %
Waterplane Area: 46 740 Square feet or 4 342 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 172 lbs/sq ft or 839 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,98
- Longitudinal: 1,10
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
218t fire control
25t Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx533HW
100t for Flag Ship
52t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
100t for extra pump installation
After testing cruisers with 234/51s, the Byzantine Admiralty found that 8000t cruisers with 12x191s had correct protection and excellent fire volume. The program continues with slight modifications.
, Byzantine Empire C15 laid down 1932
Displacement:
8 000 t light; 8 575 t standard; 9 620 t normal; 10 457 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(553,05 ft / 547,57 ft) x 62,01 ft x (20,32 / 21,63 ft)
(168,57 m / 166,90 m) x 18,90 m x (6,19 / 6,59 m)
Armament:
12 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 160 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1932 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1932 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 3 129 lbs / 1 419 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 366,86 ft / 111,82 m 9,45 ft / 2,88 m
Ends: 1,38" / 35 mm 180,68 ft / 55,07 m 9,45 ft / 2,88 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 0,98" / 25 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 66 300 shp / 49 460 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 14 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 881 tons
Complement:
485 - 631
Cost:
£3,864 million / $15,456 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 840 tons, 8,7 %
- Guns: 840 tons, 8,7 %
Armour: 1 530 tons, 15,9 %
- Belts: 649 tons, 6,7 %
- Armament: 120 tons, 1,2 %
- Armour Deck: 696 tons, 7,2 %
- Conning Towers: 65 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 1 957 tons, 20,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 414 tons, 35,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 620 tons, 16,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 259 tons, 2,7 %
- Hull below water: 40 tons
- On freeboard deck: 110 tons
- Above deck: 109 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
11 042 lbs / 5 009 Kg = 51,9 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,04
Metacentric height 2,6 ft / 0,8 m
Roll period: 16,1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,86
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,06
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,488 / 0,498
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,83 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,40 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 67
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,00 %, 25,75 ft / 7,85 m, 20,67 ft / 6,30 m
- Forward deck: 33,50 %, 20,67 ft / 6,30 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Aft deck: 33,50 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 18,41 ft / 5,61 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96,7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156,4 %
Waterplane Area: 22 379 Square feet or 2 079 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 112 lbs/sq ft or 547 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,51
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
84t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
OD
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
45t for 2 seaplanes + cata
18t reserved for new materials, minen...
AW
Climatisatisation
BW
40t for additionnal pumps
18510t Koloni class cost much $ & BP. A lighter version of 15200t will probably be chosen.
BB10, Byzantine Empire colonial BB laid down 1932
Displacement:
15 200 t light; 16 169 t standard; 16 851 t normal; 17 397 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(572,21 ft / 567,59 ft) x 78,74 ft x (21,99 / 22,58 ft)
(174,41 m / 173,00 m) x 24,00 m x (6,70 / 6,88 m)
Armament:
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 410,01lbs / 639,57kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
8 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 9 189 lbs / 4 168 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 368,93 ft / 112,45 m 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 198,62 ft / 60,54 m 10,66 ft / 3,25 m
Upper: 1,57" / 40 mm 368,93 ft / 112,45 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,77" / 45 mm 368,93 ft / 112,45 m 20,73 ft / 6,32 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 59,06 ft / 18,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 11,8" / 300 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 9,84" / 250 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,57" / 40 mm Quarter deck: 2,76" / 70 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 11,81" / 300 mm, Aft 3,94" / 100 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 41 211 shp / 30 744 Kw = 24,00 kts
Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 228 tons
Complement:
739 - 961
Cost:
£6,480 million / $25,919 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 679 tons, 10,0 %
- Guns: 1 679 tons, 10,0 %
Armour: 6 155 tons, 36,5 %
- Belts: 2 314 tons, 13,7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 501 tons, 3,0 %
- Armament: 909 tons, 5,4 %
- Armour Deck: 2 208 tons, 13,1 %
- Conning Towers: 223 tons, 1,3 %
Machinery: 1 216 tons, 7,2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 809 tons, 34,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 651 tons, 9,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 340 tons, 2,0 %
- Hull below water: 75 tons
- On freeboard deck: 72 tons
- Above deck: 193 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
27 682 lbs / 12 557 Kg = 22,5 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 5,0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,17
Metacentric height 4,7 ft / 1,4 m
Roll period: 15,3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,79
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,30
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,600 / 0,603
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,21 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,82 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m
- Forward deck: 32,50 %, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Aft deck: 32,50 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Quarter deck: 17,00 %, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m, 15,09 ft / 4,60 m
- Average freeboard: 18,19 ft / 5,54 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 85,9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 147,2 %
Waterplane Area: 32 687 Square feet or 3 037 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 158 lbs/sq ft or 769 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,51
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
AD
168t fire control
25t Marconi
OD
24t for 2x3TTx533HW
25t for cata + seaplane
18t reserved
AW
climatisation
BW
75t for extra pump installation
1932 DD with 2T2x120 from 1926 C11 class
Cost 1,53$ & 1.53BP.
D15, Byzantine Empire D15 laid down 1932
Displacement:
1 580 t light; 1 662 t standard; 1 948 t normal; 2 178 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(397,58 ft / 393,70 ft) x 36,09 ft x (11,71 / 12,62 ft)
(121,18 m / 120,00 m) x 11,00 m x (3,57 / 3,85 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 220 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 216 lbs / 98 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 38 026 shp / 28 367 Kw = 32,76 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 516 tons
Complement:
146 - 190
Cost:
£0,921 million / $3,684 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 41 tons, 2,1 %
- Guns: 41 tons, 2,1 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,2 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 973 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 455 tons, 23,4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 368 tons, 18,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 107 tons, 5,5 %
- On freeboard deck: 78 tons
- Above deck: 29 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
554 lbs / 251 Kg = 10,5 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,28
Metacentric height 1,7 ft / 0,5 m
Roll period: 11,7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,15
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,06
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,410 / 0,425
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,91 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19,84 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m, 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 16,90 ft / 5,15 m, 11,98 ft / 3,65 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 11,98 ft / 3,65 m, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m, 11,65 ft / 3,55 m
- Average freeboard: 13,85 ft / 4,22 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 168,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,7 %
Waterplane Area: 8 799 Square feet or 817 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 79 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 151 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,04
- Overall: 0,53
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
4t for1924 top mast rangefinder
25t for LR marconi
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
10t for1920 sonar
6t for 30x195 DC
30t reserved for new material, paravanes, armament, minen.
AW
climatisation
Trial speed: 33,5 kts
Bonus: 0.74
Don't forget the replacement of the 1896 hospital ships.
4600t Hospital Ship, Byzantine Empire Hospital Ship laid down 1932
Displacement:
4 600 t light; 4 711 t standard; 5 505 t normal; 6 141 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(409,19 ft / 406,82 ft) x 62,60 ft x (12,61 / 13,80 ft)
(124,72 m / 124,00 m) x 19,08 m x (3,84 / 4,21 m)
Armament:
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 1 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 1 lbs / 0 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 8 000 shp / 5 968 Kw = 18,04 kts
Range 10 000nm at 14,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 430 tons
Complement:
319 - 415
Cost:
£0,883 million / $3,532 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 tons, 0,0 %
- Guns: 1 tons, 0,0 %
Armour: 2 tons, 0,0 %
- Armament: 2 tons, 0,0 %
Machinery: 236 tons, 4,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 772 tons, 32,2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 905 tons, 16,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2 590 tons, 47,0 %
- Hull below water: 1 000 tons
- Hull above water: 1 200 tons
- On freeboard deck: 390 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
15 664 lbs / 7 105 Kg = 250 625,8 x 0,5 " / 13 mm shells or 2,8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,50
Metacentric height 4,9 ft / 1,5 m
Roll period: 11,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 93 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,85
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise aft of midbreak, low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,600 / 0,611
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20,17 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 15,00 %, 22,47 ft / 6,85 m, 19,19 ft / 5,85 m
- Forward deck: 10,00 %, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m
- Aft deck: 50,00 %, 19,19 ft / 5,85 m, 19,19 ft / 5,85 m
- Quarter deck: 25,00 %, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m
- Average freeboard: 16,63 ft / 5,07 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 58,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 198,5 %
Waterplane Area: 18 626 Square feet or 1 730 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 180 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 71 lbs/sq ft or 345 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,41
- Overall: 0,99
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather
misc weight: 2590t
300t for medical magasin
490t for hospital
1800t for 450 beds
The machine guns would be problematic under international law (at least as we know it).
Quote from: The Rock Doctor on April 19, 2024, 05:00:35 PMThe machine guns would be problematic under international law (at least as we know it).
Eh, I don't think so. Given they're only capable of self defense against aircraft attack or direct boarding, they're basically useless in combat. Kind of like the usns mercy can house a phalanx mount.
Unlike the 130mm guns on the Aztec royal yacht that can be a hospital ship....but the Aztecs are under no false impression that the mayans would respect am unarmed hospital ship
The presumption is that history flowed similar in N7 to the 'Real World' and so our nations would have signed the treaties the 'Real World' nations did.
So the 1907 Hague convention governing Hospital ships should be in effect.
Finding the actual language prooved more difficult than expected, but wiki's summary works.
"The ship must not be used for any military purpose, or interfere with or hamper enemy combatant vessels."
I would not think those guns a threat to violate that provision.
Quote...Eh, I don't think so. Given they're only capable of self defense against aircraft attack or direct boarding, they're basically useless in combat...
Exact.
Refurbishment on most ships in 1932
Old T2x120 QF (25t) => new T2x114 DP (30t)
Testing on C11 class
Lamia - Larisa, Byzantine Empire C11 laid down 1926
Displacement:
8 000 t light; 8 510 t standard; 9 298 t normal; 9 928 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(547,60 ft / 544,62 ft) x 61,88 ft x (19,79 / 20,78 ft)
(166,91 m / 166,00 m) x 18,86 m x (6,03 / 6,33 m)
Armament:
12 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 160 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1926 Model
6 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1932 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 1 500 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2 897 lbs / 1 314 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 367,45 ft / 112,00 m 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
Ends: 1,38" / 35 mm 177,17 ft / 54,00 m 7,87 ft / 2,40 m
Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5,51" / 140 mm 0,98" / 25 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 65 000 shp / 48 490 Kw = 29,99 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 419 tons
Complement:
473 - 615
Cost:
£2,935 million / $11,741 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 786 tons, 8,5 %
- Guns: 786 tons, 8,5 %
Armour: 1 528 tons, 16,4 %
- Belts: 657 tons, 7,1 %
- Armament: 116 tons, 1,2 %
- Armour Deck: 691 tons, 7,4 %
- Conning Towers: 64 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 2 081 tons, 22,4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 370 tons, 36,2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 298 tons, 14,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 235 tons, 2,5 %
- Hull below water: 40 tons
- On freeboard deck: 90 tons
- Above deck: 105 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
10 113 lbs / 4 587 Kg = 47,6 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,04
Metacentric height 2,6 ft / 0,8 m
Roll period: 16,0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,81
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,06
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,488 / 0,496
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,80 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,34 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 67
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,00 %, 24,28 ft / 7,40 m, 20,67 ft / 6,30 m
- Forward deck: 34,00 %, 20,67 ft / 6,30 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 18,32 ft / 5,58 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 102,0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 159,3 %
Waterplane Area: 22 211 Square feet or 2 063 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 108 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 111 lbs/sq ft or 544 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,50
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
80t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
OD
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
25t for seaplane + cata
30t reserved
AW
Climatisation
BW
40t for additionnal pumps
BB5 class need refit.
BB5 Ramses II - Seti I - 26000t 1909 1913 21kts 190x30,5m
4T3x343/45+8x191+12x102+16x40+16x12,7+4TTx533 - B340-120-T340-D80 6000nm-12kts
Coal boilers => oil boilers
Old turbines 35000shp => new turbines 35000shp
Range 6000nm => 8000nm
remove 191 & 120 guns & casemates
Add 8T2x114DP
Bulkhead 28mm => 40mm
Deck armor 80mm => 100mm
Cost: 7.857$ & 1.582BP
| BB5 | 26000t => 26430t | | Ramses II - Refurbishment 1932 | | |
| 26000x 0,2 | | $x0,2 | 5,2 | 0 |
| | tonnage | coef | $ | BP |
| new guns | 42t | 2$ => 1BP | 0,084 | 0,042 |
| new mounts | 97t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,097 | 0,097 |
| new armour | 9t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,009 | 0,009 |
| new engines | 1033t | 2$ => 1BP | 2,066 | 1,033 |
| 25%engines | elec motors | 0 | 2$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 |
| new belt | 196t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,196 | 0,196 |
| new deck | 543t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,543 | 0,543 |
| | | | 8,195 | 1,92 |
| old guns | 117t | 15% | 0,017 | 0,017 |
| old mounts | 417t | 15% | 0,062 | 0,062 |
| old belt | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 |
| old deck | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 |
| old engines | 1733t | 15% | 0,259 | 0,259 |
| | | | 0,338 | 0,338 |
| Final cost | 8,195- 0,338 => | | | 7,857$ | |
| Final cost | 1,92 - 0,338 => | | | | 1,582BP |
Ramses II - Seti I, Byzantine Empire BB5 laid down 1909 (Engine 1932)Displacement:
26 430 t light; 28 146 t standard; 29 408 t normal; 30 417 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(623,36 ft / 623,36 ft) x 100,00 ft x (26,38 / 27,13 ft)
(190,00 m / 190,00 m) x 30,48 m x (8,04 / 8,27 m)
Armament:
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 410,01lbs / 639,57kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1909 Model
2 x Triple mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
1 raised mount
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 410,01lbs / 639,57kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1909 Model
2 x Triple mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 290 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1931 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 17 881 lbs / 8 111 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,4" / 340 mm 405,18 ft / 123,50 m 12,01 ft / 3,66 m
Ends: 4,72" / 120 mm 218,14 ft / 66,49 m 12,01 ft / 3,66 m
Upper: 5,51" / 140 mm 405,18 ft / 123,50 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 405,18 ft / 123,50 m 25,13 ft / 7,66 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 92,00 ft / 28,04 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,4" / 340 mm 5,91" / 150 mm 11,8" / 300 mm
2nd: 13,4" / 340 mm 5,91" / 150 mm 11,8" / 300 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,38" / 35 mm Quarter deck: 1,57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 13,39" / 340 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 35 000 shp / 26 110 Kw = 21,04 kts
Range 8 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 271 tons
Complement:
1 122 - 1 459
Cost:
£2,497 million / $9,986 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 705 tons, 9,2 %
- Guns: 2 705 tons, 9,2 %
Armour: 10 155 tons, 34,5 %
- Belts: 4 104 tons, 14,0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 593 tons, 2,0 %
- Armament: 2 160 tons, 7,3 %
- Armour Deck: 3 023 tons, 10,3 %
- Conning Tower: 275 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 1 033 tons, 3,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 11 724 tons, 39,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 977 tons, 10,1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 813 tons, 2,8 %
- Hull below water: 130 tons
- Hull above water: 190 tons
- On freeboard deck: 200 tons
- Above deck: 293 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
51 437 lbs / 23 331 Kg = 41,8 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 9,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21
Metacentric height 7,1 ft / 2,2 m
Roll period: 15,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,73
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,38
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,629
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,23 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,97 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 27,66 ft / 8,43 m, 22,60 ft / 6,89 m
- Forward deck: 52,00 %, 20,96 ft / 6,39 m, 20,01 ft / 6,10 m
- Aft deck: 13,00 %, 12,01 ft / 3,66 m, 12,01 ft / 3,66 m
- Quarter deck: 17,00 %, 12,01 ft / 3,66 m, 12,01 ft / 3,66 m
- Average freeboard: 18,69 ft / 5,70 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 62,9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,0 %
Waterplane Area: 46 708 Square feet or 4 339 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 208 lbs/sq ft or 1 016 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,94
- Longitudinal: 1,62
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Misc weight:
AD
25t for Marconi
268t for Top Fire Control 1930
OD
50t for cata + 2 floatplanes
150t reserved for new materials
AW
60t reserved for new materials
130t for climatisation
BW
130t for additionnal pumps installation
AC4 need refit too
Damas - Darea - 16350t 1908 1911 27kts 181x26
4T2x254+10x152+10x102+16x40+8x12,7+3TTx457 (seaplane) B200-D45-T240 6000nm-12kts
Coal boilers => oil boilers
Old turbines 68800shp => new turbines 74000shp
Range 6000nm => 15560nm
remove 102QF
Add 102DP
Bulkhead 25mm => 40mm
Deck armor 45mm => 60mm
| AC5 | 16350t => 15500t | | Damas - Refurbishment 1932 | | |
| 16350x 0,2 | | $x0,2 | 3,27 | 0 |
| | tonnage | coef | $ | BP |
| new guns | 23t | 2$ => 1BP | 0,046 | 0,023 |
| new mounts | 53t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,053 | 0,053 |
| new armour | 11t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,011 | 0,011 |
| new engines | 2184t | 2$ => 1BP | 4,368 | 2,184 |
| 25%engines | elec motors | 0 | 2$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 |
| new belt | 352t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,352 | 0,352 |
| new deck | 375t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,375 | 0,375 |
| new TDS | 179t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,179 | 0,179 |
| | | | 8,654 | 3,177 |
| old guns | 22t | 15% | 0,003 | 0,003 |
| old mounts | 39t | 15% | 0,005 | 0,005 |
| old belt | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 |
| old deck | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 |
| old engines | 3784t | 15% | 0,567 | 0,567 |
| | | | 0,575 | 0,575 |
| Final cost | 8,654- 0,575 => | | | 8,079$ | |
| Final cost | 3,177 - 0,575 => | | | | 2,602BP |
Cost: 8.079$ & 2.602BPDamas-Darea, Byzantine Empire AC4 laid down 1908 (Engine 1932)
Displacement:
15 550 t light; 16 413 t standard; 18 135 t normal; 19 512 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(595,01 ft / 595,01 ft) x 85,01 ft x (21,82 / 23,16 ft)
(181,36 m / 181,36 m) x 25,91 m x (6,65 / 7,06 m)
Armament:
8 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,01lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1908 Model
4 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
10 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 100,00lbs / 45,36kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1908 Model
10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 5 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5 429 lbs / 2 463 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 392,72 ft / 119,70 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
Ends: 1,97" / 50 mm 202,30 ft / 61,66 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
Upper: 3,54" / 90 mm 392,72 ft / 119,70 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
1,57" / 40 mm 392,72 ft / 119,70 m 20,47 ft / 6,24 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 68,60 ft / 20,91 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9,45" / 240 mm 2,95" / 75 mm 7,87" / 200 mm
2nd: 1,97" / 50 mm 1,97" / 50 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 9,45" / 240 mm, Aft 7,87" / 200 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 74 000 shp / 55 204 Kw = 27,64 kts
Range 15 560nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3 099 tons
Complement:
780 - 1 015
Cost:
£1,299 million / $5,197 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 163 tons, 6,4 %
- Guns: 1 163 tons, 6,4 %
Armour: 5 604 tons, 30,9 %
- Belts: 2 405 tons, 13,3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 468 tons, 2,6 %
- Armament: 1 026 tons, 5,7 %
- Armour Deck: 1 447 tons, 8,0 %
- Conning Towers: 258 tons, 1,4 %
Machinery: 2 184 tons, 12,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 909 tons, 32,6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 585 tons, 14,3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 690 tons, 3,8 %
- Hull below water: 83 tons
- Hull above water: 83 tons
- On freeboard deck: 382 tons
- Above deck: 142 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
31 937 lbs / 14 487 Kg = 63,9 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 5,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 5,0 ft / 1,5 m
Roll period: 15,9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,46
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,10
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,575 / 0,583
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,39 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 27,95 ft / 8,52 m, 23,95 ft / 7,30 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m, 19,32 ft / 5,89 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 19,32 ft / 5,89 m, 19,32 ft / 5,89 m
- Quarter deck: 16,50 %, 19,32 ft / 5,89 m, 19,32 ft / 5,89 m
- Average freeboard: 20,74 ft / 6,32 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80,0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 173,5 %
Waterplane Area: 36 137 Square feet or 3 357 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 121 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 140 lbs/sq ft or 684 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,97
- Longitudinal: 1,41
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Marconi
117t for 1930 FC
OD
100t for Admiral staff
50t for cata + 2 floatplane
32t for 2x4TTx533 HW
200t reserved
AW
83t for climatisation
BW
83t for extra pumps installations
SC4 refit:
C4 Djeddah - Delos 6000t 1905 1908 26kts 152x16,4
6x191+6x102+4TTx457+64 minen (seaplane) B70-D25-T70 4000nm-12kts
New 10x191 was 6x191
New 102DP was 102QF
Belt 100mm was 70mm
Deck 45 was 30
Boilers: oil was coal (1334t)
Engines 36300shp 27kts was 32370shp 26kts
Range:12400nm/12kts was 5800nm/10kts
| SC4 | 6000t => 5520t | | Djeddah - Refurbishment 1932 | | |
| 6000x 0,2 | | $x0,2 | 1,2 | 0 |
| | tonnage | coef | $ | BP |
| new guns | 132t | 2$ => 1BP | 0,264 | 0,132 |
| new mounts | 470t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,47 | 0,47 |
| new armour | 176t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,176 | 0,176 |
| new engines | 1071t | 2$ => 1BP | 1,071 | 1,071 |
| 25%engines | elec motors | 0 | 2$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 |
| new belt | 152t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,152 | 0,152 |
| new deck | 256t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,256 | 0,256 |
| new TDS | 0 | 1$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 |
| | | | 3,589 | 2,257 |
| old guns | 83t | 15% | 0,01245 | 0,01245 |
| old mounts | 289t | 15% | 0,04335 | 0,04335 |
| old belt | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 |
| old deck | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 |
| old engines | 2671t | 15% | 0,4 | 0,4 |
| | | | 0,4558 | 0,4558 |
| Final cost | 3,589- 0,4558 => | | | 3,13$ | |
| Final cost | 2,257 - 0,4558 => | | | | 1,8BP |
cost:3.13$ $ 1.8BP
---------------------------
SC4, Byzantine Empire SC4 laid down 1905 (Engine 1932)Displacement:
5 520 t light; 5 852 t standard; 6 592 t normal; 7 184 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(499,00 ft / 498,00 ft) x 54,00 ft x (16,19 / 17,31 ft)
(152,10 m / 151,79 m) x 16,46 m x (4,93 / 5,28 m)
Armament:
2 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 133 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1925 Model
2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 133 per gun
Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1925 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 raised mounts
8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
4 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2 215 lbs / 1 005 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3,94" / 100 mm 333,66 ft / 101,70 m 10,83 ft / 3,30 m
Ends: 1,57" / 40 mm 164,30 ft / 50,08 m 8,83 ft / 2,69 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2,76" / 70 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 2,17" / 55 mm
2nd: 2,76" / 70 mm 0,79" / 20 mm 2,17" / 55 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Protected deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 1,38" / 35 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 36 300 shp / 27 080 Kw = 27,00 kts
Range 12 400nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1 333 tons
Complement:
365 - 475
Cost:
£0,555 million / $2,220 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 603 tons, 9,1 %
- Guns: 603 tons, 9,1 %
Armour: 1 389 tons, 21,1 %
- Belts: 669 tons, 10,2 %
- Armament: 107 tons, 1,6 %
- Armour Deck: 572 tons, 8,7 %
- Conning Towers: 40 tons, 0,6 %
Machinery: 1 071 tons, 16,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 170 tons, 32,9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 072 tons, 16,3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 287 tons, 4,4 %
- Hull below water: 30 tons
- Hull above water: 30 tons
- On freeboard deck: 137 tons
- Above deck: 90 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
8 322 lbs / 3 775 Kg = 39,1 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,06
Metacentric height 2,2 ft / 0,7 m
Roll period: 15,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,68
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,05
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,530 / 0,540
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,22 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22,32 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 67
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1,00 ft / 0,30 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 15,00 %, 23,82 ft / 7,26 m, 22,47 ft / 6,85 m
- Forward deck: 10,00 %, 22,47 ft / 6,85 m, 22,15 ft / 6,75 m
- Aft deck: 57,00 %, 11,88 ft / 3,62 m, 11,88 ft / 3,62 m
- Quarter deck: 18,00 %, 11,88 ft / 3,62 m, 11,88 ft / 3,62 m
- Average freeboard: 14,59 ft / 4,45 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 84,2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 129,1 %
Waterplane Area: 18 420 Square feet or 1 711 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 93 lbs/sq ft or 453 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,99
- Longitudinal: 1,10
- Overall: 1,00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
65t for top mast rangefinder - FC1930
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
25t for cata + floatplane
80t reserved
AW
30t for climatisation
BW
30t for additionnal pumps
Rework D15 1580t => 1560t
1932 DD with 2T2x120 from 1926 C11 class
cost 1.53BP & 153$
D15, Byzantine Empire D15 laid down 1932
Displacement:
1 560 t light; 1 642 t standard; 1 925 t normal; 2 152 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(392,66 ft / 388,78 ft) x 36,75 ft x (11,51 / 12,40 ft)
(119,68 m / 118,50 m) x 11,20 m x (3,51 / 3,78 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 220 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 216 lbs / 98 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 37 780 shp / 28 184 Kw = 32,68 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 511 tons
Complement:
144 - 188
Cost:
£0,911 million / $3,644 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 41 tons, 2,1 %
- Guns: 41 tons, 2,1 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,2 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 962 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 447 tons, 23,2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 365 tons, 19,0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 107 tons, 5,6 %
- On freeboard deck: 78 tons
- Above deck: 29 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
554 lbs / 251 Kg = 10,5 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,31
Metacentric height 1,8 ft / 0,5 m
Roll period: 11,5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,13
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,410 / 0,425
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,58 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19,72 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 11,98 ft / 3,65 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 11,98 ft / 3,65 m, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 11,32 ft / 3,45 m, 11,65 ft / 3,55 m
- Average freeboard: 13,72 ft / 4,18 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 168,7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 151,2 %
Waterplane Area: 8 847 Square feet or 822 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 79 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 151 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,00
- Overall: 0,53
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
4t for1924 top mast rangefinder
25t for LR marconi
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
10t for1920 sonar
6t for 30x195 DC
30t reserved for new material, paravanes, armament, minen.
AW
climatisation
Trial speed: 33 kts
Bonus: 0.33
From 1920 to 1931,
Byzance built 60 Fleet destroyers from 1400t to 1700t &
74 Torpedo Boat from 500t to 840t.
Quote from: Jefgte on April 23, 2024, 09:59:20 AMAC4 need refit too
You can not add the Torpedo bulkheads under
Refurbishment "New armor decks, external belts, and external bulges for torpedo defense
(not "torpedo bulkheads") can be added. Existing armor decks, external belts, or weapon armor can be replaced or removed (not increased)*. "
*torpedo bulkheads not included there.
Under
Reconstruction, which has different pricing, which specifically includes moving around internal ship bulkheads you can.
"Internal belts can be replaced or removed. Torpedo Bulkheads can be added."
| AC5 | 16350t => 15500t | | Damas - Refurbishment 1932 | | |
| 16350x 0,2 | | $x0,2 | 3,27 | 0 |
| | tonnage | coef | $ | BP |
| new guns | 23t | 2$ => 1BP | 0,046 | 0,023 |
| new mounts | 53t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,053 | 0,053 |
| new armour | 11t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,011 | 0,011 |
| new engines | 2184t | 2$ => 1BP | 4,368 | 2,184 |
| 25%engines | elec motors | 0 | 2$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 |
| new belt | 352t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,352 | 0,352 |
| new deck | 375t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,375 | 0,375 |
| new TDS | no | 1$ => 1BP | no | no |
| | | | 8,475 | 2,998 |
| old guns | 22t | 15% | 0,003 | 0,003 |
| old mounts | 39t | 15% | 0,005 | 0,005 |
| old belt | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 |
| old deck | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 |
| old engines | 3784t | 15% | 0,567 | 0,567 |
| | | | 0,575 | 0,575 |
| Final cost | 8,475- 0,575 => | | | 7,9$ | |
| Final cost | 2,998 - 0,575 => | | | | 2,423BP |
Damas-Darea, Byzantine Empire AC4 laid down 1908 (Engine 1932)
Displacement:
15 550 t light; 16 413 t standard; 18 135 t normal; 19 512 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(595,01 ft / 595,01 ft) x 85,01 ft x (21,82 / 23,16 ft)
(181,36 m / 181,36 m) x 25,91 m x (6,65 / 7,06 m)
Armament:
8 - 10,00" / 254 mm 45,0 cal guns - 500,00lbs / 226,80kg shells, 120 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1908 Model
4 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
10 - 5,98" / 152 mm 45,0 cal guns - 100,00lbs / 45,36kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1908 Model
10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 raised mounts
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,00lbs / 0,91kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 5 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5 429 lbs / 2 463 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 392,72 ft / 119,70 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
Ends: 1,97" / 50 mm 202,30 ft / 61,66 m 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
Upper: 3,54" / 90 mm 392,72 ft / 119,70 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
0,98" / 25 mm 392,72 ft / 119,70 m 20,47 ft / 6,24 m (original thickness)
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 68,60 ft / 20,91 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 9,45" / 240 mm 2,95" / 75 mm 7,87" / 200 mm
2nd: 1,97" / 50 mm 1,97" / 50 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 2,36" / 60 mm
Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 9,45" / 240 mm, Aft 7,87" / 200 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 74 000 shp / 55 204 Kw = 27,64 kts
Range 15 560nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3 099 tons
Complement:
780 - 1 015
Cost:
£1,299 million / $5,197 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1 163 tons, 6,4 %
- Guns: 1 163 tons, 6,4 %
Armour: 5 433 tons, 30,0 %
- Belts: 2 410 tons, 13,3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 293 tons, 1,6 %
- Armament: 1 026 tons, 5,7 %
- Armour Deck: 1 447 tons, 8,0 %
- Conning Towers: 258 tons, 1,4 %
Machinery: 2 184 tons, 12,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6 080 tons, 33,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 585 tons, 14,3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 690 tons, 3,8 %
- Hull below water: 83 tons
- Hull above water: 83 tons
- On freeboard deck: 382 tons
- Above deck: 142 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
31 858 lbs / 14 451 Kg = 63,7 x 10,0 " / 254 mm shells or 5,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
Metacentric height 5,0 ft / 1,5 m
Roll period: 16,0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,46
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,10
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,575 / 0,583
Length to Beam Ratio: 7,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,39 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 17,50 %, 27,95 ft / 8,52 m, 23,95 ft / 7,30 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 21,33 ft / 6,50 m, 19,32 ft / 5,89 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 19,32 ft / 5,89 m, 19,32 ft / 5,89 m
- Quarter deck: 16,50 %, 19,32 ft / 5,89 m, 19,32 ft / 5,89 m
- Average freeboard: 20,74 ft / 6,32 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80,0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 173,5 %
Waterplane Area: 36 137 Square feet or 3 357 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 123 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 140 lbs/sq ft or 684 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,97
- Longitudinal: 1,41
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
25t for Marconi
117t for 1930 FC
OD
100t for Admiral staff
50t for cata + 2 floatplane
32t for 2x4TTx533 HW
200t reserved
AW
83t for climatisation
BW
83t for extra pumps installations
Idem for Ramses II class
remove new 40mm TDS
reuse old 27mm TDS
| BB5 | 26000t => 26430t | | Ramses II - Refurbishment 1932 | | |
| 26000x 0,2 | | $x0,2 | 5,2 | 0 |
| | tonnage | coef | $ | BP |
| new guns | 42t | 2$ => 1BP | 0,084 | 0,042 |
| new mounts | 97t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,097 | 0,097 |
| new armour | 9t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,009 | 0,009 |
| new engines | 1033t | 2$ => 1BP | 2,066 | 1,033 |
| 25%engines | elec motors | 0 | 2$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 |
| new belt | 258t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,258 | 0,258 |
| new deck | 543t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,543 | 0,543 |
| new TDS | no | 1$ => 1BP | no | no |
| | | | 8,257 | 1,982 |
| old guns | 117t | 15% | 0,017 | 0,017 |
| old mounts | 417t | 15% | 0,062 | 0,062 |
| old belt | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 |
| old deck | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 |
| old engines | 1733t | 15% | 0,259 | 0,259 |
| | | | 0,338 | 0,338 |
| Final cost | 8,257- 0,338 => | | | 7,919$ | |
| Final cost | 1,982 - 0,338 => | | | | 1,644BP |
Ramses II - Seti I, Byzantine Empire BB5 laid down 1909 (Engine 1932)
Displacement:
26 430 t light; 28 146 t standard; 29 408 t normal; 30 417 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(623,36 ft / 623,36 ft) x 100,00 ft x (26,38 / 27,13 ft)
(190,00 m / 190,00 m) x 30,48 m x (8,04 / 8,27 m)
Armament:
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 410,00lbs / 639,57kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1909 Model
2 x Triple mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
1 raised mount
6 - 13,50" / 343 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 410,00lbs / 639,57kg shells, 100 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1909 Model
2 x Triple mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 290 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1931 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,00lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1930 Model
8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
8 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 17 881 lbs / 8 111 kg
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 13,4" / 340 mm 405,18 ft / 123,50 m 12,47 ft / 3,80 m
Ends: 4,72" / 120 mm 218,14 ft / 66,49 m 12,01 ft / 3,66 m
Upper: 5,51" / 140 mm 405,18 ft / 123,50 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
1,06" / 27 mm 405,18 ft / 123,50 m 25,13 ft / 7,66 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 92,00 ft / 28,04 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 13,4" / 340 mm 5,91" / 150 mm 11,8" / 300 mm
2nd: 13,4" / 340 mm 5,91" / 150 mm 11,8" / 300 mm
3rd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
5th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
Forecastle: 1,38" / 35 mm Quarter deck: 1,57" / 40 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 13,39" / 340 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 35 000 shp / 26 110 Kw = 21,04 kts
Range 8 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2 271 tons
Complement:
1 122 - 1 459
Cost:
£2,497 million / $9,986 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2 705 tons, 9,2 %
- Guns: 2 705 tons, 9,2 %
Armour: 10 078 tons, 34,3 %
- Belts: 4 220 tons, 14,3 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 400 tons, 1,4 %
- Armament: 2 160 tons, 7,3 %
- Armour Deck: 3 023 tons, 10,3 %
- Conning Tower: 275 tons, 0,9 %
Machinery: 1 033 tons, 3,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 11 801 tons, 40,1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 977 tons, 10,1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 813 tons, 2,8 %
- Hull below water: 130 tons
- Hull above water: 190 tons
- On freeboard deck: 200 tons
- Above deck: 293 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
51 608 lbs / 23 409 Kg = 41,9 x 13,5 " / 343 mm shells or 8,7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,20
Metacentric height 7,0 ft / 2,1 m
Roll period: 15,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,73
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,38
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
a ram bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,626 / 0,629
Length to Beam Ratio: 6,23 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24,97 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 42 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 52
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 27,66 ft / 8,43 m, 22,60 ft / 6,89 m
- Forward deck: 52,00 %, 20,96 ft / 6,39 m, 20,01 ft / 6,10 m
- Aft deck: 13,00 %, 12,01 ft / 3,66 m, 12,01 ft / 3,66 m
- Quarter deck: 17,00 %, 12,01 ft / 3,66 m, 12,01 ft / 3,66 m
- Average freeboard: 18,69 ft / 5,70 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 62,9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,0 %
Waterplane Area: 46 708 Square feet or 4 339 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 209 lbs/sq ft or 1 023 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,95
- Longitudinal: 1,62
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily
Misc weight:
AD
25t for Marconi
268t for Top Fire Control 1930
OD
50t for cata + 2 floatplanes
150t reserved for new materials
AW
60t reserved for new materials
130t for climatisation
BW
130t for additionnal pumps installation
With 24 T2 x 120QF mlle 1926 from C11 class (refur. with T2 x 114DP),
Byzantine could built 12 x 1600t DD with 2T2x120 or 8 x 1700t DD with 3T2x120
D15, Byzantine Empire D15 laid down 1932
Displacement:
1 700 t light; 1 797 t standard; 2 095 t normal; 2 334 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(401,65 ft / 396,98 ft) x 37,73 ft x (11,94 / 12,84 ft)
(122,42 m / 121,00 m) x 11,50 m x (3,64 / 3,91 m)
Armament:
6 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 220 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 316 lbs / 143 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 40 900 shp / 30 512 Kw = 32,96 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 538 tons
Complement:
154 - 201
Cost:
£1,011 million / $4,042 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 59 tons, 2,8 %
- Guns: 59 tons, 2,8 %
Armour: 5 tons, 0,2 %
- Armament: 5 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 1 048 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 487 tons, 23,2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 396 tons, 18,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 101 tons, 4,8 %
- On freeboard deck: 72 tons
- Above deck: 29 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
588 lbs / 267 Kg = 11,2 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,30
Metacentric height 1,9 ft / 0,6 m
Roll period: 11,6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,20
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,410 / 0,425
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,52 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19,92 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 12,47 ft / 3,80 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 12,47 ft / 3,80 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m, 11,81 ft / 3,60 m
- Average freeboard: 14,11 ft / 4,30 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 170,8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 153,4 %
Waterplane Area: 9 276 Square feet or 862 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 78 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 33 lbs/sq ft or 160 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,02
- Overall: 0,53
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
4t for1924 top mast rangefinder
25t for LR marconi
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
10t for1920 sonar
6t for 30x195 DC
24t reserved for new material, paravanes, armament, minen.
AW
climatisation
Trial speed: 33 kts
Bonus: 0.33
You could but why not just give the destroyers new DP guns as well?
QuoteYou could but why not just give the destroyers new DP guns as well?
It bothers me to throw 24 T2x120s from 1926 (0.48 BP) in the trash.
It's just a project, I'll test it with desT2x114DP.
Done 1730t with 3T2x114DP mlle 1932 => cost 1.73$ & 1.73BP
(cost with 3T2x120 mlle 1926 => 1.64$ & 1,64BP)
Testing 1933 D16 with 3T2x114DP
D16, Byzantine Empire D16 laid down 1933
Displacement:
1 750 t light; 1 869 t standard; 2 171 t normal; 2 413 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(401,65 ft / 396,98 ft) x 38,19 ft x (12,11 / 13,00 ft)
(122,42 m / 121,00 m) x 11,64 m x (3,69 / 3,96 m)
Armament:
6 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 1,86lbs / 0,84kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 1,86lbs / 0,84kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 363 lbs / 165 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 41 946 shp / 31 292 Kw = 32,95 kts
Range 10 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 544 tons
Complement:
158 - 206
Cost:
£1,074 million / $4,295 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 55 tons, 2,6 %
- Guns: 55 tons, 2,6 %
Armour: 5 tons, 0,2 %
- Armament: 5 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 1 085 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 507 tons, 23,4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 421 tons, 19,4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 98 tons, 4,5 %
- On freeboard deck: 68 tons
- Above deck: 30 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
616 lbs / 279 Kg = 13,6 x 4,5 " / 114 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,32
Metacentric height 1,9 ft / 0,6 m
Roll period: 11,5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,23
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,414 / 0,428
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,40 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19,92 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 12,80 ft / 3,90 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 12,80 ft / 3,90 m, 11,81 ft / 3,60 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 11,81 ft / 3,60 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m
- Average freeboard: 14,33 ft / 4,37 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 170,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154,5 %
Waterplane Area: 9 413 Square feet or 874 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 81 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 33 lbs/sq ft or 163 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,06
- Overall: 0,53
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
5t for1924 top mast rangefinder
25t for LR marconi
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
10t for1920 sonar
6t for 30x195 DC
20t reserved for new material, paravanes, armament, minen.
AW
climatisation
Trial speed: 33.5 kts
Bonus: 0.56
Colonial DD with 2T2x120 QF mlle 1926 from the C11 class
Cost: 1.36BP & 1.36$
D15, Byzantine Empire Colonial Destroyer laid down 1932
Displacement:
1 400 t light; 1 474 t standard; 1 682 t normal; 1 849 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(352,16 ft / 347,77 ft) x 34,78 ft x (11,48 / 12,26 ft)
(107,34 m / 106,00 m) x 10,60 m x (3,50 / 3,74 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck centre
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 216 lbs / 98 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 34 500 shp / 25 737 Kw = 32,04 kts
Range 8 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 375 tons
Complement:
130 - 170
Cost:
£0,808 million / $3,231 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 41 tons, 2,4 %
- Guns: 41 tons, 2,4 %
Armour: 4 tons, 0,2 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 840 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 414 tons, 24,6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 283 tons, 16,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 101 tons, 6,0 %
- Hull above water: 4 tons
- On freeboard deck: 68 tons
- Above deck: 29 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
498 lbs / 226 Kg = 9,4 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,23
Metacentric height 1,5 ft / 0,5 m
Roll period: 12,0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,19
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,04
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,424 / 0,437
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 18,65 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 20,67 ft / 6,30 m, 16,73 ft / 5,10 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 16,73 ft / 5,10 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 11,98 ft / 3,65 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 11,98 ft / 3,65 m, 11,98 ft / 3,65 m
- Average freeboard: 14,28 ft / 4,35 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 169,7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152,2 %
Waterplane Area: 7 561 Square feet or 702 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 75 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 31 lbs/sq ft or 152 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,55
- Overall: 0,56
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
4t for1924 top mast rangefinder
25t for LR marconi
OD
32t for 2x4TTx533HW
10t for 1920 sonar
6t for 30x195 DC
20t reserved for new material, paravanes, armament, minen.
AW
4t for climatisation
Trial speed: 32.5kts
Bonus: 0.46
I will try to replace 4x1x102 on the D8 - 1913-1914 - 1000t by the M2x120 mlle 1926 available... (?)
24 T2x120/45 mlle 1926 from C11 are installed on 12 x D8 destroyers from 1913-1915.
These 1000t destroyers require reconstruction (which I rarely do).
| D8 | D8 1000t => 1100t | | Reconstruction 1932 | | | | |
| 1000t => 1100t | | 20%$ 10%BP | 0,2 | 0,1 | | |
| | tonnage | coef | $ | BP | | |
| new guns | 3t | 2$ => 1BP | 0,006 | 0,003 | 40/39 & 12,7 | |
| new mounts | 0t | 1$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 | 120/45mlle1926from C11 | |
| new armour | 0t | 1$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 | | |
| new engines | 622t | 2$ => 1BP | 1,244 | 0,622 | | |
| 25%engines | elec motors | 0t | 2$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 | | |
| new belt | 0t | 1$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 | | |
| new deck | 0t | 1$ => 1BP | 0 | 0 | | |
| new bow | 100t | 1$ => 1BP | 0,2 | 0,2 | | |
| | | | 1,65 | 0,925 | | |
| old guns | 8t | 15% | 0,0012 | 0,0012 | | |
| old mounts | 16t | 15% | 0,0024 | 0,0024 | | |
| old armor | 3,7 | 15% | 0,00055 | 0,00055 | | |
| old deck | 0 | 15% | 0 | 0 | | |
| old engines | 586t | 15% | 0,0879 | 0,0879 | | |
| | | | 0,09205 | 0,09205 | | |
| Final cost | 1,65- 0,09205 => | | | 1,558$ | | | |
| Final cost | 0,925 - 0,09205 => | | | | 0,833BP | | |
Cost per ship:
1.558$ & 0.833BPD8, Byzantine Empire Colonial Destroyer laid down 1913 (Engine 1932)Displacement:
1 100 t light; 1 154 t standard; 1 245 t normal; 1 317 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(356,62 ft / 354,33 ft) x 35,43 ft x (8,90 / 9,23 ft)
(108,70 m / 108,00 m) x 10,80 m x (2,71 / 2,81 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 200 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1926 Model
4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 1,85lbs / 0,84kg shells, 1 500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
Weight of broadside 208 lbs / 94 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 28 220 shp / 21 052 Kw = 32,20 kts
Range 4 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 163 tons
Complement:
104 - 136
Cost:
£0,149 million / $0,594 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 39 tons, 3,1 %
- Guns: 39 tons, 3,1 %
Armour: 6 tons, 0,5 %
- Armament: 6 tons, 0,5 %
Machinery: 622 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 370 tons, 29,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 144 tons, 11,6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 64 tons, 5,1 %
- On freeboard deck: 35 tons
- Above deck: 29 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
413 lbs / 187 Kg = 7,8 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21
Metacentric height 1,5 ft / 0,5 m
Roll period: 12,2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,17
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise forward of midbreak,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,390 / 0,398
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 18,82 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 22,00 %, 21,78 ft / 6,64 m, 19,16 ft / 5,84 m
- Forward deck: 10,00 %, 19,13 ft / 5,83 m, 19,09 ft / 5,82 m
- Aft deck: 48,00 %, 11,22 ft / 3,42 m, 11,22 ft / 3,42 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 11,22 ft / 3,42 m, 11,22 ft / 3,42 m
- Average freeboard: 13,99 ft / 4,26 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 171,0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 176,9 %
Waterplane Area: 7 676 Square feet or 713 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 68 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 30 lbs/sq ft or 146 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,36
- Overall: 0,55
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
4t for 1924 rangefinder
25t for Marconi
OD
18t for2x3TTx533
10t for 1920 sonar
5T for 50x90kg DC
2t Reserve for paravanes, new armaments, new materials.
BW
climatisation
-------------------
Original built:
D8, Byzantine Empire Long Range Destroyer laid down 1913Displacement:
1 000 t light; 1 034 t standard; 1 172 t normal; 1 283 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(347,77 ft / 347,77 ft) x 35,43 ft x (8,54 / 9,05 ft)
(106,00 m / 106,00 m) x 10,80 m x (2,60 / 2,76 m)
Armament:
4 - 4,00" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 32,28lbs / 14,64kg shells, 130 per gun
Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
1 - 3,00" / 76,2 mm 45,0 cal gun - 13,62lbs / 6,18kg shells, 150 per gun
Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1913 Model
1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck aft
1 raised mount
2 - 0,30" / 7,7 mm 90,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1913 Model
2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
Weight of broadside 143 lbs / 65 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
4th: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 19 889 shp / 14 837 Kw = 29,78 kts
Range 6 500nm at 10,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 249 tons
Complement:
99 - 130
Cost:
£0,135 million / $0,541 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 26 tons, 2,2 %
- Guns: 26 tons, 2,2 %
Armour: 7 tons, 0,6 %
- Armament: 7 tons, 0,6 %
Machinery: 586 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 313 tons, 26,7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 172 tons, 14,7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 68 tons, 5,8 %
- On freeboard deck: 40 tons
- Above deck: 28 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
395 lbs / 179 Kg = 12,3 x 4,0 " / 102 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,31
Metacentric height 1,7 ft / 0,5 m
Roll period: 11,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,13
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle, rise aft of midbreak,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,390 / 0,403
Length to Beam Ratio: 9,81 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 18,65 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 18,37 ft / 5,60 m, 16,90 ft / 5,15 m
- Forward deck: 20,00 %, 11,65 ft / 3,55 m, 11,48 ft / 3,50 m
- Aft deck: 42,00 %, 11,58 ft / 3,53 m, 11,58 ft / 3,53 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 11,58 ft / 3,53 m, 11,58 ft / 3,53 m
- Average freeboard: 12,64 ft / 3,85 m
Ship tends to be wet forward
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 167,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 167,8 %
Waterplane Area: 7 534 Square feet or 700 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 69 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 28 lbs/sq ft or 135 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 0,94
- Overall: 0,53
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
24t for 8TT x 450
3t for 1913 top mast rangefinder
25t for LR marconi
6t for additionnal engines ventillation
10t reserved
This reconstruction will give Byzantium 25 divisions with 4 destroyers (100DDs from 1000t to 1700t) with a homogeneous armament of 120mm guns. 9 divisions use 533TT. 16 divisions use 533TT HW.
Next class use 114/45DP.
First class of Byzantine Destroyer with M2x114/45DP.
D15, Byzantine Empire Heavy Destroyer laid down 1932
Displacement:
1 890 t light; 2 018 t standard; 2 370 t normal; 2 652 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(401,65 ft / 396,98 ft) x 38,71 ft x (13,04 / 14,07 ft)
(122,42 m / 121,00 m) x 11,80 m x (3,97 / 4,29 m)
Armament:
6 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 364 lbs / 165 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 44 440 shp / 33 152 Kw = 32,95 kts
Range 11 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 634 tons
Complement:
169 - 220
Cost:
£1,119 million / $4,476 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 55 tons, 2,3 %
- Guns: 55 tons, 2,3 %
Armour: 5 tons, 0,2 %
- Armament: 5 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 1 186 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 534 tons, 22,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 480 tons, 20,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 110 tons, 4,6 %
- On freeboard deck: 80 tons
- Above deck: 30 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
659 lbs / 299 Kg = 14,6 x 4,5 " / 114 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,33
Metacentric height 2,0 ft / 0,6 m
Roll period: 11,5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,21
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,414 / 0,429
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,25 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19,92 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 12,47 ft / 3,80 m
- Average freeboard: 14,54 ft / 4,43 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 170,2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,1 %
Waterplane Area: 9 542 Square feet or 887 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 83 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 34 lbs/sq ft or 166 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,11
- Overall: 0,54
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
5t for1924 top mast rangefinder
25t for LR marconi
OD
48t for 4x3TTx533HW
10t for1920 sonar
6t for 30x195 DC
16t reserved for new material, paravanes, armament, minen.
AW
climatisation
Trial speed: 33.5 kts
Bonus: 0.55
The D15 destroyer is interesting, I took a long time to develop my Sher
which is similar, but a little larger, as I shipped more fuel.
Large torpedo array, but
I noted that it only has Sonar.
Sonar is relatively short range, directional and make active pings.
The Enhanced hydrophones give passive results over a larger distance.
I would suggest both be fitted.
The Marmara Fleet (Home Fleet) has 52DD (13x4) from 1500t to 1700t.
I am also working on a 1000t/1200t colonial DD.
| Assignment | Class | Name | Tonnage |
| Marmara | D14-Kobra | D185-D186-D187-D188 | 1500 |
| Marmara | D14-Kobra | D181-D182-D183-D184 | 1500 |
| Marmara | D14-Kobra | D177-D178-D179-D180 | 1500 |
| Marmara | D13 | D173-D174-D175-D176 | 1700 |
| Marmara | D13 | D169-D170-D171-D172 | 1700 |
| Marmara | D12 | D165-D166-D167-D168 | 1600 |
| Marmara | D12 | D161-D162-D163-D164 | 1600 |
| Marmara | D12 | D157-D158-D159-D160 | 1600 |
| Marmara | D12 | D153-D154-D155-D156 | 1600 |
| Marmara | D11 | D149-D150-D151-D152 | 1500 |
| Marmara | D11 | D145-D146-D147-D148 | 1500 |
| Marmara | D11 | D141-D142-D143-D144 | 1500 |
| Marmara | D11 | D137-D138-D139-D140 | 1500 |
| Atlantique | D10 | D133-D134-D135-D136 | 1400 |
| Madagascar | D10 | D129-D130-D131-D132 | 1400 |
| Madagascar | D10 | D125-D126-D127-D128 | 1400 |
| Madagascar | D9 | D121-D122-D123-D124 | 1140 |
| Australia | D9 | D117-D118-D119-D120 | 1140 |
| Australia | D9 | D113-D114-D115-D116 | 1140 |
| Australia | D9 | D109-D110-D111-D112 | 1140 |
| Atlantique | D8 | D105-D106-D107-D108 | 1100 |
| Atlantique | D8 | D101-D102-D103-D104 | 1000 |
| Atlantique | D8 | D97-D98-D99-D100 | 1000 |
| Red Sea | D7 | D93-D94-D95-D96 | 1000 |
| Madagascar | D1000 | D89-D90-D91- D92 | 1000 |
| Assignment | Class | Name | Tonnage |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500H | T252-T253-T254-T255 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500H | T252-T253-T254-T255 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500H | T252-T253-T254-T255 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500M | T248-T249-T250-T251 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500M | T244-T245-T246-T247 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500M | T240-T241-T242-T243 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500M | T236-T237-T238-T239 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500M | T232-T233-T234-T235 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500M | T228-T229-T230-T231 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500M | T224-T225-T226-T227 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500M | T220-T221-T222-T223 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500M | T216-T217-T218-T219 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500A | T212-T213-T214-T215 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500A | T208-T209-T210-T211 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500A | T204-T205-T206-T207 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500A | T200-T201-T202-T203 | 500 |
| Red Sea-Aden | T500A | T196-T197-T198-T199 | 500 |
| Australia | T840 | T187-T188-T189 | 840 |
| Australia | T840 | T184-T185-T186 | 840 |
| Marmara-Egee | T400 | T180-T181-T182-T183 | 400 |
| Marmara-Egee | T400 | T176-T177-T178-T179 | 400 |
| Marmara-Egee | T400 | T172-T173-T174-T175 | 400 |
| Marmara-Egee | T400 | T168-T169-T170-T171 | 400 |
| Marmara-Egee | T400 | T164-T165-T166-T167 | 400 |
| Marmara-Egee | T400 | T160-T161-T162-T163 | 400 |
| Atlantique | T600 | T156-T157-T158-T159 | 600 |
| Atlantique | T600 | T152-T153-T154-T155 | 600 |
| Atlantique | T600 | T148-T149-T150-T151 | 600 |
| Madagascar | D6 | T85-T86-T87- T88 | 750 |
| Madagascar | D5 | T81-T82-T83-T84 | 750 |
| Madagascar | D5 | T77-T78-T79-T80 | 750 |
Quote...Sonar is relatively short range, directional and make active pings.
The Enhanced hydrophones give passive results over a larger distance.
I would suggest both be fitted.
Update from 1890t to 1900t
D15, Byzantine Empire Heavy Destroyer laid down 1932Displacement:
1 900 t light; 2 028 t standard; 2 381 t normal; 2 664 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(401,65 ft / 396,98 ft) x 38,71 ft x (13,10 / 14,13 ft)
(122,42 m / 121,00 m) x 11,80 m x (3,99 / 4,31 m)
Armament:
6 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 320 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
3 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
4 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, aft deck forward
2 raised mounts
4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck forward
2 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 364 lbs / 165 kg
Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0,39" / 10 mm - -
2nd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
4th: 0,24" / 6 mm - -
Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 44 580 shp / 33 256 Kw = 32,95 kts
Range 11 000nm at 12,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 636 tons
Complement:
169 - 221
Cost:
£1,123 million / $4,493 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 55 tons, 2,3 %
- Guns: 55 tons, 2,3 %
Armour: 5 tons, 0,2 %
- Armament: 5 tons, 0,2 %
Machinery: 1 190 tons, 50,0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 535 tons, 22,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 481 tons, 20,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 115 tons, 4,8 %
- Hull above water: 15 tons
- On freeboard deck: 70 tons
- Above deck: 30 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
657 lbs / 298 Kg = 14,5 x 4,5 " / 114 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,33
Metacentric height 2,0 ft / 0,6 m
Roll period: 11,5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,21
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,01
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,414 / 0,429
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,25 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19,92 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 18,00 %, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Forward deck: 33,00 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m
- Aft deck: 33,00 %, 13,12 ft / 4,00 m, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m
- Quarter deck: 16,00 %, 12,14 ft / 3,70 m, 12,47 ft / 3,80 m
- Average freeboard: 14,54 ft / 4,43 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 170,6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 149,1 %
Waterplane Area: 9 542 Square feet or 887 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 83 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 34 lbs/sq ft or 166 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,50
- Longitudinal: 1,11
- Overall: 0,54
Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
AD
5t for1924 top mast rangefinder
25t for LR marconi
OD
48t for 4x3TTx533HW
10t for1920 sonar
6t for 30x195 DC
6t reserved for new material, paravanes, armament, minen.
AW
15t for enhanced hydrophone
climatisation
Trial speed: 33.5 kts
Bonus: 0.55
Quote from: Jefgte on May 01, 2024, 01:15:49 AMThe Marmara Fleet (Home Fleet) has 52DD (13x4) from 1500t to 1700t.
I am also working on a 1000t/1200t colonial DD.
The Parthian fleet destroyers are all smaller at 1140-1500 tons.
I deliberately continued the smaller sizes to be able to field
the number of platforms I needed. While my Home fleet has fewer Destroyers
assigned than yours, if reinforced by the Expeditionary fleet, there are more,
if individually less capable.
While in 1932 I am building the 1st of the
Sher 2000t class
I am also continuing construction of the older
1140t Vakharz class.
It's a balanced design that does the roles well. That may eventually
become the territorial DD, or I may build a new one.
The 50% rule on machinery makes me not want to update it, as I will
need a higher speed for the same machinery weight, which will mean more
seakeeping, which means more hull structure, leaving less weight for
equipment. So I keep building the 1926 class.