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Navy / Re: Aircraft Carriers
Last post by Jefgte - Today at 02:16:36 AM
CV3 - Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-60 aircrafts laid down 1932

Pusuldeniz - Kripodeniz

Displacement:
   20 940 t light; 21 734 t standard; 23 583 t normal; 25 062 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (730,76 ft / 728,35 ft) x 91,86 ft x (24,67 / 25,83 ft)
   (222,74 m / 222,00 m) x 28,00 m  x (7,52 / 7,87 m)

Armament:
      8 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1932 Model
     8 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 hull mounts in casemates- Limited use in heavy seas
      16 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 340 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      24 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1932 Model
     12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 178 lbs / 988 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   1,97" / 50 mm   684,65 ft / 208,68 m   11,52 ft / 3,51 m
   Ends:   1,97" / 50 mm     43,67 ft / 13,31 m   11,52 ft / 3,51 m
     Main Belt covers 145 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,97" / 50 mm   684,65 ft / 208,68 m   21,72 ft / 6,62 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72,18 ft / 22,00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1,57" / 40 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 105 820 shp / 78 942 Kw = 30,00 kts
   Range 10 000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3 328 tons

Complement:
   950 - 1 236

Cost:
   £5,814 million / $23,256 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 358 tons, 1,5 %
      - Guns: 358 tons, 1,5 %
   Armour: 3 376 tons, 14,3 %
      - Belts: 639 tons, 2,7 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1 083 tons, 4,6 %
      - Armament: 37 tons, 0,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 617 tons, 6,9 %
   Machinery: 3 123 tons, 13,2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 283 tons, 35,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 643 tons, 11,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 5 800 tons, 24,6 %
      - Hull below water: 250 tons
      - Hull above water: 2 820 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 2 670 tons
      - Above deck: 60 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     61 798 lbs / 28 031 Kg = 290,7 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 9,6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
   Metacentric height 5,6 ft / 1,7 m
   Roll period: 16,2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,14
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,507
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,93 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 26,99 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   6,00 %,  22,97 ft / 7,00 m,  19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Forward deck:   47,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Aft deck:   47,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Quarter deck:   0,00 %,  19,69 ft / 6,00 m,  19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:      38,27 ft / 11,66 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80,7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 351,5 %
   Waterplane Area: 44 579 Square feet or 4 142 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 143 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 589 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,87
      - Longitudinal: 3,41
      - Overall: 1,00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight:
AD
25t for LR Marconi
35t for 1924 fire control
OD
2400t for 30 aircrafts
120t for Climatisation
150t for Fire Fighting
HAW
2400t for 30 aircrafts
120t for Climatisation
150t for Fire Fighting
150t for aircrafts spare parts
HBW
100t for additionnal pumps
150t reserved for  material...

#2
Ship Designs / Re: Vilnius Union Ships, 1930+...
Last post by Jefgte - Today at 02:03:08 AM
Parthia & Byzantium should think about building big 45,000t machines.
#3
Ship Designs / Re: Vilnius Union Ships, 1930+...
Last post by The Rock Doctor - Yesterday at 07:14:37 PM
Playing around with cruiser-of-the-line ideas for the mid thirties.  This is basically a super-Czarownik, with newer 400mm guns, DP armament, and heavier deck armor.  The transom stern is assumed to be available at this point, we'll see how it actually shakes out.

Obviously other options include a heavier version with 450mm/45 guns and a lighter version with the new 350/45 I'm working on.

It'll all depend on what use I actually see for battlecruisers at that point.


Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1935

Displacement:
   44,973 t light; 47,369 t standard; 50,853 t normal; 53,641 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (887.15 ft / 869.42 ft) x 101.05 ft x (31.17 / 32.58 ft)
   (270.40 m / 265.00 m) x 30.80 m  x (9.50 / 9.93 m)

Armament:
      8 - 15.75" / 400 mm 50.0 cal guns - 2,425.09lbs / 1,100.00kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1935 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      16 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.61lbs / 30.67kg shells, 400 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1935 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm 60.0 cal guns - 4.18lbs / 1.89kg shells, 1,500 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
     8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      16 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm 90.0 cal guns - 0.12lbs / 0.05kg shells, 5,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1935 Model
     8 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 20,551 lbs / 9,322 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.0" / 330 mm   565.12 ft / 172.25 m   16.37 ft / 4.99 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main Belt inclined 16.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      2.36" / 60 mm   565.12 ft / 172.25 m   29.92 ft / 9.12 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72.18 ft / 22.00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   15.7" / 400 mm   7.87" / 200 mm      13.0" / 330 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   1.18" / 30 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   4th:   0.59" / 15 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.59" / 15 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 5.91" / 150 mm
   Forecastle: 3.94" / 100 mm  Quarter deck: 5.91" / 150 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 12.99" / 330 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 158,178 shp / 118,000 Kw = 30.06 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 6,272 tons

Complement:
   1,693 - 2,201

Cost:
   £20.489 million / $81.957 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3,326 tons, 6.5 %
      - Guns: 3,326 tons, 6.5 %
   Armour: 17,812 tons, 35.0 %
      - Belts: 5,083 tons, 10.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1,478 tons, 2.9 %
      - Armament: 3,488 tons, 6.9 %
      - Armour Deck: 7,380 tons, 14.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 384 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 4,494 tons, 8.8 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 18,262 tons, 35.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,880 tons, 11.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1,080 tons, 2.1 %
      - Hull below water: 130 tons
      - Hull above water: 200 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 200 tons
      - Above deck: 550 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     80,173 lbs / 36,366 Kg = 41.1 x 15.7 " / 400 mm shells or 12.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
   Metacentric height 5.8 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 17.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.96
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and small transom stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.650 / 0.656
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.60 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 31.57 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 5.91 ft / 1.80 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  32.48 ft / 9.90 m,  23.95 ft / 7.30 m
      - Forward deck:   36.00 %,  23.95 ft / 7.30 m,  23.95 ft / 7.30 m
      - Aft deck:   29.00 %,  23.95 ft / 7.30 m,  23.95 ft / 7.30 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  23.95 ft / 7.30 m,  23.95 ft / 7.30 m
      - Average freeboard:      24.63 ft / 7.51 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 88.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 186.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 69,050 Square feet or 6,415 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 202 lbs/sq ft or 988 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.05
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
#4
Ship Designs / Re: Byzantine Empire 1933-34
Last post by Jefgte - May 21, 2024, 06:32:13 AM
For 8000t cruisers - 1933, Byzantium test several projects,
mostly:
4T2x191 - 31kts - 13000nm - B100
6T2x191 - 30kts - 12500nm - B100
The project with 6T2x191 is selected because its 50% greater firepower is preferable to 1 additional knot.

Patuh - Prukho, Byzantine Empire C13 laid down 1933

Displacement:
    8 000 t light; 8 600 t standard; 9 528 t normal; 10 270 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (563,29 ft / 557,74 ft) x 62,01 ft x (19,76 / 20,90 ft)
    (171,69 m / 170,00 m) x 18,90 m  x (6,02 / 6,37 m)

Armament:
      12 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 180 per gun
      Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
      6 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
        2 raised mounts - superfiring
      12 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 340 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
      6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
      Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
      8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        8 raised mounts
      16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
      8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
        8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3 129 lbs / 1 419 kg

Armour:
  - Belts:        Width (max)    Length (avg)        Height (avg)
    Main:    3,94" / 100 mm    368,11 ft / 112,20 m    9,45 ft / 2,88 m
    Ends:    1,38" / 35 mm    189,60 ft / 57,79 m    9,45 ft / 2,88 m
      Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    4,72" / 120 mm    0,98" / 25 mm        1,97" / 50 mm
    2nd:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    4th:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -
    5th:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -

  - Protected deck - single deck:
    For and Aft decks: 1,77" / 45 mm
    Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

  - Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 2,76" / 70 mm

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 4 shafts, 65 240 shp / 48 669 Kw = 30,00 kts
    Range 12 500nm at 12,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 1 670 tons

Complement:
    481 - 626

Cost:
    £3,981 million / $15,926 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 840 tons, 8,8 %
      - Guns: 840 tons, 8,8 %
    Armour: 1 542 tons, 16,2 %
      - Belts: 655 tons, 6,9 %
      - Armament: 114 tons, 1,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 707 tons, 7,4 %
      - Conning Towers: 65 tons, 0,7 %
    Machinery: 1 901 tons, 20,0 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 453 tons, 36,2 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 528 tons, 16,0 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 265 tons, 2,8 %
      - Hull below water: 40 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 116 tons
      - Above deck: 109 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      11 255 lbs / 5 105 Kg = 52,9 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,6 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05
    Metacentric height 2,7 ft / 0,8 m
    Roll period: 15,9 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,84
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,09

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has a flush deck,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,488 / 0,497
    Length to Beam Ratio: 8,99 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 23,62 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 12,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    17,50 %,  26,08 ft / 7,95 m,  20,83 ft / 6,35 m
      - Forward deck:    33,50 %,  20,83 ft / 6,35 m,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m
      - Aft deck:    32,50 %,  17,06 ft / 5,20 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Quarter deck:    16,50 %,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m,  16,40 ft / 5,00 m
      - Average freeboard:        18,51 ft / 5,64 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96,0 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 161,2 %
    Waterplane Area: 22 794 Square feet or 2 118 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 112 lbs/sq ft or 545 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,96
        - Longitudinal: 1,45
        - Overall: 1,00
    Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
84t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
OD
32t for 2x4TTx21" HW
45t for 2 seaplanes + cata
39t reserved for new armament, materials, minen...
AW
Climatisatisation
BW
40t for additionnal pumps
#5
Ship Designs / Re: Byzantine Empire 1933-34
Last post by Jefgte - May 17, 2024, 02:22:45 AM
For patrols, colonies & escorts works

TGB570, Byzantine Empire Torpedo Gun Boat laid down 1933

Displacement:
    570 t light; 627 t standard; 678 t normal; 718 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (245,80 ft / 242,78 ft) x 26,25 ft x (8,99 / 9,35 ft)
    (74,92 m / 74,00 m) x 8,00 m  x (2,74 / 2,85 m)

Armament:
      4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 50,00lbs / 22,68kg shells, 225 per gun
      Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1927 Model
      2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
      Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
      4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
        4 raised mounts
      4 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
      2 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward deck aft
        2 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 216 lbs / 98 kg

Armour:
  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    2nd:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -
    4th:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 2 shafts, 8 600 shp / 6 415 Kw = 25,20 kts
    Range 5 000nm at 10,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 91 tons

Complement:
    66 - 86

Cost:
    £0,312 million / $1,250 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 41 tons, 6,0 %
      - Guns: 41 tons, 6,0 %
    Armour: 5 tons, 0,8 %
      - Armament: 5 tons, 0,8 %
    Machinery: 251 tons, 37,0 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 215 tons, 31,8 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 108 tons, 15,9 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 58 tons, 8,6 %
      - Hull above water: 2 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 52 tons
      - Above deck: 4 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      372 lbs / 169 Kg = 7,1 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,3 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
    Metacentric height 0,8 ft / 0,2 m
    Roll period: 12,2 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 73 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,53
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,22

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has a flush deck,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,414 / 0,422
    Length to Beam Ratio: 9,25 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 15,58 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    18,00 %,  17,14 ft / 5,23 m,  13,21 ft / 4,03 m
      - Forward deck:    33,00 %,  13,21 ft / 4,03 m,  9,92 ft / 3,03 m
      - Aft deck:    33,00 %,  9,92 ft / 3,03 m,  8,94 ft / 2,73 m
      - Quarter deck:    16,00 %,  8,94 ft / 2,73 m,  9,92 ft / 3,03 m
      - Average freeboard:        11,10 ft / 3,38 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 140,5 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119,9 %
    Waterplane Area: 3 957 Square feet or 368 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 32 lbs/sq ft or 155 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,65
        - Longitudinal: 2,73
        - Overall: 0,75
    Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Adequate accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
    Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

AD
Short Marconi
4t for top fire control - 1924
OD
9t for 1x3TTx533
15t for enhanced hydrophone
6t for 30x195kg DC
2t for paravanes
20t reserve for new materials, armaments or 20 minen
AW
Climatisation

#6
Ship Designs / Re: Vilnius Union Ships, 1930+...
Last post by The Rock Doctor - May 16, 2024, 07:07:08 PM
He was around when I built the first batch.  Adding the amphibious capability was actually his idea.  Think he just didn't have the resources for any of his own.
#7
Ship Designs / Re: Vilnius Union Ships, 1930+...
Last post by Kaiser Kirk - May 16, 2024, 04:42:07 PM
Light Transport - I have a very similar vessel. I wound up devoting only part of the available wt to Fleet support, while allocating the rest to a variety of things.  That's a fair amount of tonnage, you may want to pencil out what it supports, and also look at your Destroyers and subs and see if the result is a whole number.

Koraz- I think Foxy would salivate at such a tip and run commando vessel.
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News and Stories / Re: News and Stories from the ...
Last post by The Rock Doctor - May 14, 2024, 06:36:52 PM
18 January 1931

The official keel-laying ceremony takes place for the battleship Jan Ingenhousz, although steel has been laid since yard workers were sober enough on 2 January to do so.

With several members of the royal family under the weather with some form of flu, the Crown is represented at this event by Queen Christine and Princess Edyta.  The queen graciously permits her seventeen year-old daughter to take the spotlight on this occasion, and the young royal delivers a brief, ghost-written speech about the workers and the city which will spend the next four and a half years building the mighty dreadnought. 

Afterward, yard workers are prepared to admit that it wasn't a bad speech, and the event wasn't quite as disastrous as they expected it was going to be when they heard who would there. 

18 March 1931

The battleship Znakomity arrives in Stockholm to begin the process of paying off, beginning with the removal of all ammunition.

She is the last pre-dreadnought battleship built for the Vilnius Union navy.  Originally intended to be the second of five Wspanialy class ships, construction of her sisters was terminated early in 1903 as the Union came to recognize that a new era in capital ship construction was close at hand.  Refurbished in 1921, she was jokingly referred to as the World's Deadliest Pre-Dreadnought by her crew, despite the reality that she would fall short even in that regard.

Over the course of the spring, she'll be repurposed as the new centerpiece of the Stockholm Museum of History, drawing memories from the aged and wonder from the young.

28 June 1931

The battleship Friedrich Herschel commissions into the Navy, joining her sister Johan Gadolin in Battle Squadron Four of the High Seas Fleet - the Znakomity's former tasking.

Herschel displaces three times more than Znakomity, and her eight-gun 400mm battery dwarves Znakomity's four 280mm guns, making it fairly evident why the aged pre-dreadnoughts are no longer in service. 

Herschel is the last of six capital ships built under Phase 3 of the Union's Naval Replacement Program.  She and her sister are operationally compatible with the slightly older and less-big Encke class as well as the Czarownik class cruisers of the line, all mounting 400mm guns and capable of at least 27 knots. 

It is not clear that there will be a Phase 4 in quite the same way as the previous phases.  The recently laid down Ingenhousz is the first ship, her sister Joachim Jungius will be the second, and a second pair of similar battleships is expected, but the navy has not publicly committed to specific plans for armored cruisers or cruisers of the line.
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Ship Designs / Re: Vilnius Union Ships, 1930+...
Last post by The Rock Doctor - May 13, 2024, 06:52:10 PM
Okay a small transom and 1934 engine year gives me 31.6 knots and another ten tonnes or so of deck cargo.
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Ship Designs / Re: Vilnius Union Ships, 1930+...
Last post by The Rock Doctor - May 13, 2024, 06:09:55 PM
Speaking of korsarz, another look at a new class.  This one's built with less emphasis on launching MTB attacks and a bit more emphasis on a fast transport/rapid strike capability.  This means fewer davits and more raw cargo capacity.  In theory, the following missions could be performed:

-MTB strike:  4 x 20t MTB in davits and another two stored on the aft deck, with about 32 boat-loads of wet/dry stores aboard.

-MTB tender:  As above, but additional MTBs in company as well as those carried aboard.

-Naval infantry strike:  120 marines and 30 boat/vehicle crew, with up to 4 to 6 landing craft or gun tubs and possibly some light vehicles on the aft deck

-Fast transport:  Up to 600 personnel for 24 hrs plus additional deck cargo in lieu of landing craft, on top of existing stores capacity and possibly some off-loading of bunkerage.

I considered a fast minelaying capability but figured that would require actual refits to switch roles, whereas the above is a matter of what is in the davits and what stuff is on the deck.

A full 32 knots would be nice, and I may sim the effects of a transom and see if it's worth waiting a year.



Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1933

Displacement:
    4,485 t light; 4,683 t standard; 5,371 t normal; 5,921 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (509.28 ft / 495.41 ft) x 49.21 ft x (15.42 / 16.61 ft)
    (155.23 m / 151.00 m) x 15.00 m  x (4.70 / 5.06 m)

Armament:
      4 - 5.12" / 130 mm 45.0 cal guns - 67.62lbs / 30.67kg shells, 400 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1933 Model
      2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      8 - 1.97" / 50.0 mm 60.0 cal guns - 4.19lbs / 1.90kg shells, 1,500 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
      2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
        2 raised mounts
      2 x Twin mounts on sides amidships
        2 raised mounts
      8 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm 90.0 cal guns - 0.11lbs / 0.05kg shells, 4,000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1933 Model
      4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
        4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 305 lbs / 138 kg

Armour:
  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    1.97" / 50 mm    0.79" / 20 mm        1.97" / 50 mm
    2nd:    0.59" / 15 mm          -                  -
    3rd:    0.59" / 15 mm          -                  -

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 2 shafts, 54,960 shp / 41,000 Kw = 31.07 kts
    Range 8,000nm at 15.00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 1,238 tons

Complement:
    313 - 407

Cost:
    £1.937 million / $7.749 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 71 tons, 1.3 %
      - Guns: 71 tons, 1.3 %
    Armour: 20 tons, 0.4 %
      - Armament: 20 tons, 0.4 %
    Machinery: 1,601 tons, 29.8 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,741 tons, 32.4 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 885 tons, 16.5 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 1,052 tons, 19.6 %
      - Hull below water: 300 tons
      - Hull above water: 300 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 352 tons
      - Above deck: 100 tons

Fittings:
-200 t:  Wet stores (fuel oil or diesel) (BW)
-100 t:  Dry stores (ammunition, supplies) (BW)
-300 t:  Accommodation for 150 (long term) or 600 (surge) personnel (AW)
-160 t:  Four sets of heavy davits (20 t light craft + cargo) (FD)
-192 t:  Combination of deck cargo and up to 6 x 20 t MTB, landing craft, or gun-tubs (FD)
-25 t:  LR wireless (AD)
-25 t:  Huelsmeyer device/early radar (AD)
-25 t:  Operations centre for marines/whoever (AD)
-10 t:  Night-fighting doodads (AD)
-8 t:  Fire control (AD)
-7 t:  Weight reserve (AD)

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      4,719 lbs / 2,140 Kg = 70.4 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
    Metacentric height 2.1 ft / 0.6 m
    Roll period: 14.2 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.16
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.512
    Length to Beam Ratio: 10.07 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 22.26 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 65
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    20.00 %,  24.61 ft / 7.50 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Forward deck:    40.00 %,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m,  19.69 ft / 6.00 m
      - Aft deck:    20.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Quarter deck:    20.00 %,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m,  11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Average freeboard:        16.93 ft / 5.16 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 115.3 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 168.6 %
    Waterplane Area: 16,244 Square feet or 1,509 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 118 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 68 lbs/sq ft or 331 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0.87
        - Longitudinal: 1.21
        - Overall: 0.90
    Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
    Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform