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Title: Cruceros Acorazados
Post by: Jefgte on January 03, 2010, 11:10:44 AM
San Carlos de Bariloche class, NUS Cruiser laid down 1910 (Engine 1909)
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2 ships in class: San Carlos de Bariloche and Ciudad Jardín Lomas del Palomar.

Displacement:
   9,475 t light; 10,013 t standard; 11,490 t normal; 12,672 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   533.00 ft / 529.00 ft x 56.00 ft x 22.00 ft (normal load)
   162.46 m / 161.24 m x 17.07 m  x 6.71 m

Armament:
     6 - 9.20" / 234 mm guns (3x2 guns), 380.00lbs / 172.37kg shells, 1910 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, majority aft
     8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all forward
     8 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
     4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1905 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 3,198 lbs / 1,451 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 165

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   320.00 ft / 97.54 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Ends:   1.00" / 25 mm   209.00 ft / 63.70 m   14.00 ft / 4.27 m
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   320.00 ft / 97.54 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 93 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   8.00" / 203 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      8.00" / 203 mm
   2nd:   4.00" / 102 mm   2.00" / 51 mm      1.00" / 25 mm
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -

  - Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 32,238 shp / 24,049 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 7,500nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,659 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   554 - 721

Cost:
   £0.897 million / $3.587 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 407 tons, 3.5 %
   Armour: 3,531 tons, 30.7 %
      - Belts: 2,068 tons, 18.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 786 tons, 6.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 611 tons, 5.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 66 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 1,596 tons, 13.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,816 tons, 33.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,015 tons, 17.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 125 tons, 1.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     16,833 lbs / 7,635 Kg = 43.2 x 9.2 " / 234 mm shells or 2.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 2.6 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 14.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.87
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.58

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.617
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.45 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.00 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 44
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.00 ft / 1.22 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   23.00 ft / 7.01 m
      - Mid (55 %):      23.00 ft / 7.01 m (15.00 ft / 4.57 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Stern:      15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Average freeboard:   19.40 ft / 5.91 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 74.6 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 22,014 Square feet or 2,045 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 513 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.57
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

25 tons for Marconi
100 tons reserve weight
Title: Re: Cruceros Acorazados
Post by: Jefgte on January 03, 2010, 11:20:44 AM
Tupac Yupanqui - laid down 1911H1 - com 1912H2

(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/753/ec6000tuk9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

6000T cruiser, Peru Escort Cruiser laid down 1911

Displacement:
   6 000 t light; 6 400 t standard; 7 101 t normal; 7 663 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   390.42 ft / 390.42 ft x 71.52 ft x 17.28 ft (normal load)
   119.00 m / 119.00 m x 21.80 m  x 5.27 m

Armament:
     4 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (2x2 guns), 864.00lbs / 391.90kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
     8 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     4 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1911 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1911 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 4 089 lbs / 1 855 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 110
   4 - 21.0" / 533 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.72" / 120 mm   246.06 ft / 75.00 m   9.19 ft / 2.80 m
   Ends:   2.36" / 60 mm   131.23 ft / 40.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     13.12 ft / 4.00 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 97 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.51" / 140 mm   1.57" / 40 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   2nd:   1.57" / 40 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 1.18" / 30 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 18 000 shp / 13 428 Kw = 21.51 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 263 tons

Complement:
   386 - 502

Cost:
   £0.742 million / $2.966 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 511 tons, 7.2 %
   Armour: 1 321 tons, 18.6 %
      - Belts: 568 tons, 8.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 304 tons, 4.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 412 tons, 5.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 38 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 730 tons, 10.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 277 tons, 46.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 102 tons, 15.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 160 tons, 2.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     8 621 lbs / 3 910 Kg = 10.0 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.19
   Metacentric height 4.2 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 14.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.50
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.16

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.515
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5.46 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.76 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.31 ft / 6.80 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   18.04 ft / 5.50 m
      - Mid (40 %):      14.44 ft / 4.40 m
      - Quarterdeck (20 %):   14.44 ft / 4.40 m
      - Stern:      14.44 ft / 4.40 m
      - Average freeboard:   15.86 ft / 4.83 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 140.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 18 863 Square feet or 1 752 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 129 lbs/sq ft or 628 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.91
      - Longitudinal: 2.30
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Title: Re: Cruceros Acorazados
Post by: Jefgte on January 03, 2010, 11:23:22 AM
Shinchi Roca laid down 1913H1 - com 1915H1
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9121/ac8000tnx2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
8000T cruiser, Peru Armored  Cruiser laid down 1913 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   8 000 t light; 8 403 t standard; 9 206 t normal; 9 848 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   554.46 ft / 554.46 ft x 59.06 ft x 18.39 ft (normal load)
   169.00 m / 169.00 m x 18.00 m  x 5.61 m

Armament:
     4 - 9.06" / 230 mm guns (2x2 guns), 371.24lbs / 168.39kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
     2 - 9.06" / 230 mm guns (1x2 guns), 371.24lbs / 168.39kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in a turret (on a barbette)
     on centreline amidships
     12 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1913 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     4 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1913 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1913 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 2 914 lbs / 1 322 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 125
   4 - 18.0" / 457 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4.72" / 120 mm   374.02 ft / 114.00 m   10.17 ft / 3.10 m
   Ends:   1.57" / 40 mm   144.36 ft / 44.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     36.09 ft / 11.00 m Unarmoured ends
     Main Belt covers 104 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   4.72" / 120 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   2nd:   4.72" / 120 mm   1.97" / 50 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 1.38" / 35 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 46 000 shp / 34 316 Kw = 27.49 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 445 tons

Complement:
   469 - 610

Cost:
   £0.919 million / $3.678 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 364 tons, 4.0 %
   Armour: 1 759 tons, 19.1 %
      - Belts: 816 tons, 8.9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 323 tons, 3.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 574 tons, 6.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 45 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 1 834 tons, 19.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 743 tons, 40.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 206 tons, 13.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 300 tons, 3.3 %
High fire control - 250t
Marconi - long range wireless - 25t
Reserve - 25t
Crew confort mesures - climat control
Magazines climat control
Damage control - Extra pumps & generators


Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     10 011 lbs / 4 541 Kg = 27.0 x 9.1 " / 230 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 14.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.535
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.39 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.97 ft / 7.00 m
      - Forecastle (18 %):   19.36 ft / 5.90 m
      - Mid (40 %):      16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Quarterdeck (18 %):   16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Stern:      16.08 ft / 4.90 m
      - Average freeboard:   17.29 ft / 5.27 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 103.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 152.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 22 533 Square feet or 2 093 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 535 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.98
      - Longitudinal: 1.24
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily


Title: Re: Cruceros Acorazados
Post by: Jefgte on January 05, 2010, 03:03:16 PM
Here is AC Manco Capac
ex Valandil enter jan 1918 in Callao Shipyards for modifications to standard of the Peruvian Armada.
- New 230/45 mlle 1916 take the place of the old 9"/42-Mlle1893
- New 120/45 mlle 1905 QF take the place of the old 4"5/42-Mlle1891
- New 40MlleAA 1916 take the place of the 38mm from Rohan
- Cage mast are removed & the classic circular light top blockaus installed in places & not so high.

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6986/acmancocapac.jpg) (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/acmancocapac.jpg/)

The calculation give:
875t in all - 637t for the guns & 238t for new equipement.
cost 1.75$ - 0.875BP

Manco Capac (13200t) ex Valandil (13170t), Peru AC laid down 1906 (Engine 1909) rebuilt 1918

Displacement:
   13 200 t light; 13 915 t standard; 15 488 t normal; 16 747 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   520.00 ft / 520.00 ft x 73.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
   158.50 m / 158.50 m x 22.25 m  x 7.32 m

Armament:
     8 - 9.06" / 230 mm guns (4x2 guns), 371.24lbs / 168.39kg shells, 1906 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
     4 - 9.06" / 230 mm guns in single mounts, 371.24lbs / 168.39kg shells, 1906 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     12 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, evenly spread
     4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1906 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
     4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1906 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 5 096 lbs / 2 311 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 135

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   340.00 ft / 103.63 m   11.00 ft / 3.35 m
   Ends:   3.00" / 76 mm   180.00 ft / 54.86 m   11.00 ft / 3.35 m
   Upper:   5.00" / 127 mm   340.00 ft / 103.63 m   10.00 ft / 3.05 m
     Main Belt covers 101 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.00" / 229 mm   5.00" / 127 mm      9.00" / 229 mm
   2nd:   5.00" / 127 mm         -               -
   3rd:   5.00" / 127 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 9.00" / 229 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 46 000 shp / 34 316 Kw = 24.85 kts
   Range 7 500nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2 832 tons (58% coal)

Complement:
   693 - 902

Cost:
   £1.306 million / $5.224 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 637 tons, 4.1 %
   Armour: 4 899 tons, 31.6 %
      - Belts: 2 408 tons, 15.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 1 348 tons, 8.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 022 tons, 6.6 %
      - Conning Tower: 120 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 2 207 tons, 14.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 5 372 tons, 34.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 288 tons, 14.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 85 tons, 0.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     20 330 lbs / 9 222 Kg = 54.8 x 9.1 " / 230 mm shells or 2.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.06
   Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 16.4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.26

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.595
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.12 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22.80 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      26.00 ft / 7.92 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Mid (50 %):      20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Quarterdeck (15 %):   18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Stern:      18.00 ft / 5.49 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.37 ft / 6.21 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 79.0 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 151.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 27 634 Square feet or 2 567 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 130 lbs/sq ft or 634 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.73
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily