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Phoenix

Ochotnik, Destroyer laid down 1900 Swift Class
Ships: Ochotnik, Pogranichnik, Sibirsky Strelok, Ussuriets, Amurets, Finn, Moskovityanin, Dobrovolets, General Kondratenko, Emir Bucharsky, Kazanets, Uralets
QH Zan (Swift), QH Zan Fu Chou (Swift Vengeance), QH Zan Fei (Swift Anger), QH Zan Xing (Swift Punishment), QH Zan Quan (Swift Fist), QH Zan Zhang (Swift Battle), QH Zan Xing Dong (Swift Action), QH Zan Shi Ye (Swift Cause), QH Zan Zheng (Swift Fight), QH Zan Da (Swift Strike), QH Zan Qiang (Swift Force), QH Zan Bao Nu (Swift Fury)
Displacement:
  986 t light; 1,018 t standard; 1,086 t normal; 1,140 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
  269.03 ft / 269.03 ft x 26.90 ft x 13.12 ft (normal load)
  82.00 m / 82.00 m x 8.20 m  x 4.00 m

Armament:
     3 - 4.02" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.38lbs / 14.69kg shells, 1900 Model
    Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
    on side, evenly spread
    Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
     4 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1900 Model
    Quick firing guns in deck mounts
    on side, evenly spread
  Weight of broadside 110 lbs / 50 kg
  Shells per gun, main battery: 150
  4 - 17.7" / 450 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
  Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
  Direct drive, 2 shafts, 14,481 ihp / 10,803 Kw = 27.00 kts
  Range 2,000nm at 10.00 kts
  Bunker at max displacement = 122 tons (60% coal)
    Caution: Delicate, lightweight machinery

Complement:
  93 - 122

Cost:
  £0.146 million / $0.586 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
  Armament: 14 tons, 1.3 %
  Machinery: 717 tons, 66.1 %
  Hull, fittings & equipment: 236 tons, 21.7 %
  Fuel, ammunition & stores: 99 tons, 9.1 %
  Miscellaneous weights: 20 tons, 1.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
  Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
    166 lbs / 75 Kg = 5.1 x 4.0 " / 102 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
  Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.54
  Metacentric height 1.4 ft / 0.4 m
  Roll period: 9.4 seconds
  Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
        - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.21
  Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
  Hull has a flush deck
  Block coefficient: 0.400
  Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
  'Natural speed' for length: 16.40 kts
  Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
  Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
  Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
  Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
  Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      15.09 ft / 4.60 m
     - Forecastle (20 %):   9.84 ft / 3.00 m
     - Mid (50 %):      9.84 ft / 3.00 m
     - Quarterdeck (15 %):   9.84 ft / 3.00 m
     - Stern:      9.84 ft / 3.00 m
     - Average freeboard:   10.26 ft / 3.13 m
  Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
  Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 224.5 %
     - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 65.5 %
  Waterplane Area: 4,455 Square feet or 414 Square metres
  Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 24 %
  Structure weight / hull surface area: 27 lbs/sq ft or 131 Kg/sq metre
  Hull strength (Relative):
     - Cross-sectional: 0.52
     - Longitudinal: 1.50
     - Overall: 0.58
  Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is extremely poor
  Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

Scrapped, resources used for naval purposes (refits of other vessels.) 
"Those who dance are often thought mad by those who cannot hear the music."
-- Tao Te Ching

Phoenix

Chi- Alpha, Middle kingdom Torpedo boat destroyer laid down 1912 (Engine 1909)

Displacement:
   480 t light; 494 t standard; 562 t normal; 617 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   229,66 ft / 229,66 ft x 21,33 ft x 8,20 ft (normal load)
   70,00 m / 70,00 m x 6,50 m  x 2,50 m

Armament:
      2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm guns in single mounts, 12,87lbs / 5,84kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1912 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 27 lbs / 12 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   6 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 12.648 shp / 9.435 Kw = 28,00 kts
   Range 2.000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 124 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   57 - 75

Cost:
   £0,062 million / $0,247 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 tons, 0,6%
   Machinery: 301 tons, 53,6%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 161 tons, 28,6%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 82 tons, 14,6%
   Miscellaneous weights: 15 tons, 2,7%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     147 lbs / 67 Kg = 11,4 x 3,0 " / 75 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
   Metacentric height 0,6 ft / 0,2 m
   Roll period: 11,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 59 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,10
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,05

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0,490
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,77 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15,15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      18,04 ft / 5,50 m
      - Forecastle (28%):   13,12 ft / 4,00 m (9,84 ft / 3,00 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50%):      9,84 ft / 3,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
      - Stern:      9,84 ft / 3,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   11,31 ft / 3,45 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 180,4%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 24,9%
   Waterplane Area: 3.234 Square feet or 300 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 43%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 103 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,52
      - Longitudinal: 3,16
      - Overall: 0,62
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor

6 tons are the torpedo's in the tubes
9 tons construction reserve.
Trial speed 30.5 kts

First batch layed down january 1912,  9 months build time, 39 build . All active since mid HY 01 1914
"Those who dance are often thought mad by those who cannot hear the music."
-- Tao Te Ching

Phoenix

Updated Chi class with newer engine.

Chi, Middle kingdom Torpedo boat destroyer laid down 1914 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   489 t light; 503 t standard; 562 t normal; 610 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   229,66 ft / 229,66 ft x 21,33 ft x 8,20 ft (normal load)
   70,00 m / 70,00 m x 6,50 m  x 2,50 m

Armament:
      2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm guns in single mounts, 12,87lbs / 5,84kg shells, 1914 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns in single mounts, 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1914 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 27 lbs / 12 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 150
   6 - 20,0" / 508 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 14.742 shp / 10.998 Kw = 29,00 kts
   Range 2.000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 107 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   57 - 75

Cost:
   £0,079 million / $0,317 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 tons, 0,6%
   Machinery: 302 tons, 53,7%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 169 tons, 30,0%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 73 tons, 13,0%
   Miscellaneous weights: 15 tons, 2,7%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     143 lbs / 65 Kg = 11,1 x 3,0 " / 75 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,08
   Metacentric height 0,6 ft / 0,2 m
   Roll period: 11,9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 57 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,10
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has raised forecastle
   Block coefficient: 0,490
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,77 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15,15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 72 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Forecastle (28%):   15,09 ft / 4,60 m (9,84 ft / 3,00 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50%):      9,84 ft / 3,00 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
      - Stern:      9,84 ft / 3,00 m
      - Average freeboard:   11,83 ft / 3,60 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 180,9%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 24,9%
   Waterplane Area: 3.234 Square feet or 300 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 42%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 21 lbs/sq ft or 103 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 3,76
      - Overall: 0,61
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor

6 tons are the torpedo's in the tubes
9 tons construction reserve.
Trial speed 31.5 kts

First batch layed down april 1914,  9 months build time, 39 build, all active HY02 1916
13 in the yards -ready april 1917.
"Those who dance are often thought mad by those who cannot hear the music."
-- Tao Te Ching

Phoenix

Based up an experimental Dutch design and some Italian influences this fast vessel represent the first class of Middle Kingdoms heavy destroyers. 

Quote? "Thunder class", Middle Kingdom Destroyer laid down 1916 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   1.002 t light; 1.029 t standard; 1.133 t normal; 1.217 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   344,60 ft / 341,21 ft x 29,53 ft x 9,84 ft (normal load)
   105,03 m / 104,00 m x 9,00 m  x 3,00 m

Armament:
      2 - 2,95" / 75,0 mm guns in single mounts, 12,87lbs / 5,84kg shells, 1912 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 0,98" / 25,0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0,48lbs / 0,22kg shells, 1908 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 28 lbs / 13 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 220
   9 - 21,0" / 533,4 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 29.577 shp / 22.065 Kw = 33,00 kts
   Range 3.200nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 188 tons

Complement:
   96 - 126

Cost:
   £0,213 million / $0,853 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3 tons, 0,3%
   Machinery: 659 tons, 58,2%
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 322 tons, 28,4%
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 131 tons, 11,6%
   Miscellaneous weights: 18 tons, 1,6%

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     292 lbs / 133 Kg = 22,7 x 3,0 " / 75 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,38
   Metacentric height 1,4 ft / 0,4 m
   Roll period: 10,4 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,03
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0,400
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11,56 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 18,47 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 1,64 ft / 0,50 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      12,47 ft / 3,80 m
      - Forecastle (25%):   12,47 ft / 3,80 m
      - Mid (50%):      12,47 ft / 3,80 m
      - Quarterdeck (15%):   12,47 ft / 3,80 m
      - Stern:      12,47 ft / 3,80 m
      - Average freeboard:   12,47 ft / 3,80 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 191,9%
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 59,0%
   Waterplane Area: 6.202 Square feet or 576 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 47%
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 27 lbs/sq ft or 132 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 1,36
      - Overall: 0,55
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

18 tons torpedo's, 9 fish in 21" tubes

Trial speed 34 kts




"Those who dance are often thought mad by those who cannot hear the music."
-- Tao Te Ching