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Byzantine Empire 1927H2

Started by Jefgte, August 06, 2023, 04:45:02 PM

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Jefgte

Here is 1927H2 Byzantine Empire Report

Budget:
260,75$ - 43BP

Finish & Commissioned autumn - winter 1927
Torpedo Boat Hanish class:
T254 to T257 (500t)
Cruiser C11 class (8000t)
Lamia
Battleship BB8 class (34000t)
Justinianus
2 x Flat Deck (10 000t)
Baydu & Bursa

Continued:
Destroyers D12 class (1600t)
D161 to D168
Cruiser C11 class (8000t)
Larisa
Battleship BB8 class (34000t)
Abdul Kadir

Refurbishment
Battleships BB4 (19135t)
Alexander & Leonidas
Pericles & Constantin

7.7MG removed & new 12.7 MG installed on much ships (1927H1 & 1927H2)

Laid Down:
Torpedo Boat Hanish class:
T258 & T259 (500t)
Cruiser C11 class (8000t)
Lhetos

3 New IC colonial (104)
2 New Air point (28)
1 New Fort point (34)


"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#1
Byzantine Empire Fleet 1927H2

19 DN - 463540t
8 PDN - 114680t
14 AC - 181660t
6 Aviation Ship - 42200t
43 SC - 225260t
72 DD - 91840t
116 TB - 61840t
58 TGB - 40900t
320 MTB - 12800t
48 SS - 35000t
36 RGB - 5320t
107 AUX - 174400t
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

The Rock Doctor

Is that list just completed, or does it including ships building?

Kaiser Kirk

I knew it !
I need more battleships  !!!

I was working on a very similar list , but more subdivided and no tonnages.

as I recall mine goes something like
16 DNs
6   PBB
12 AC
....

I was going to first make sure all my ship classes/refits are moved from the Ship Design to Encyclopedia....,
then take a harder look at what others have to get updated again on what is 'state of the art' for 1925 ....
(current year-3) for where I feel comfortable "knowing" a ship's stats.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

The Rock Doctor

I feel like my fleet is very small in comparison and I don't quite understand why.

Kaiser Kirk

My impression is you've been scrapping your old ships while both of us have been rebuilding them.
Frankly the size of the Byzantine fleet helps drive the Parthian need to keep numbers up,
plus there's an awareness that we can't spare our very best ships for something like a Mayan war,
so our second line need to be fairly capable - hence regunning the Gilgamesh and others.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Jefgte

#6
QuoteIs that list just completed, or does it including ships building?

Ships completed.

QuoteI knew it !
I need more battleships  !!!

I was working on a very similar list , but more subdivided and no tonnages.

as I recall mine goes something like
16 DNs
6   PBB
12 AC

This is a false impression, your ships are fewer in number but carry more guns

My Fleets Board give:
Parthian
BB 514 536t
AC 176 698t
Byzantine
BB 570 220t
AC 181 660t

BBs
Parthian
236 guns - 175t broadsides
Byzantine
250 guns - 151t broadsides

ACs
Parthian
104 guns - 30t broadsides
Byzantine
100 guns - 31t broadsides

(Just main guns but full broadsides)
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Kaiser Kirk

I will take whichever statistic that makes me look weaker, so I can justify a larger naval budget !
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

Quote from: Jefgte on August 07, 2023, 11:24:43 AM
BBs
Parthian
236 guns - 175t broadsides
Byzantine
250 guns - 151t broadsides

(Just main guns but full broadsides)

Interesting, as even with the rearmed Gilgamesh I come up with less in metric tonnage for
broadside weight of fire.


Class Name   Units in Class   Mainbattery throwt.          
               
                
AC11-12 Rustam   2   6*178   2136   AC 1st   8
AC 9-10 Sparabara   2   4*178   1424   AC 2nd   4
AC 17-20 Zemaka   4   8*272   8704   BB 1st   10
AC 13-16 Asbara   4   8*272   8704   BB 2nd   6
BB 7-10Gilgamesh   4   10*595   23800   BB 3rd   6
BB 13-16 Tiamat   4   15*645   38700      
BB 11-12 Enki   2   10*545   10900      
BB 21-22 Kalifern   2   16*780   24960   BB main btty throwwt (mt)   149.9
BB 19-20 Vazra   2   20*675   27000   AC main btty throwwt (mt)   21.0
BB 17-18 Stormbringer   2   10*675   13500      
BB 5-6 Simurgh   2   4*595   4760      
BB 3-4 Rohk   2   4*395   3160      
BB 1-2 "Tortoise"   2   4*395   3160      

..maybe for 1928 I need both 2 more Battleships and two more ACs..I need to catch up !!!
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Jefgte

Quote..maybe for 1928 I need both 2 more Battleships and two more ACs..I need to catch up !!!

I think it's the Panzerschiff style BB & AC which gives a slight superiority in numbers & tonnage... but not in broadside & guns.
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Kaiser Kirk

They are part of why I rebuilt and rearmed my PD's, if we clash I expect to find those ships somewhat annoying.
I keep coming back to the desire to specifically build counters, but other demands on my BP have taken priority.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest