Imperial Roman Navy: 1926-1930 Designs

Started by snip, October 24, 2022, 12:40:42 AM

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The Rock Doctor

Might be beneficial for the leader to be as fast as the little guys.

In general I like both.  Curious to see what you're doing with all the misc. weight on the leader...

Jefgte

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QuoteMight be beneficial for the leader to be as fast as the little guys...

I agree.
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I think that "Overall" could be 0.75

=> Increase armament to have good escort ship.
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

snip

Revised Leader, now with MISC weight

QuoteLSL-26, Imperial Roman Republic Large Sloop, Leader laid down 1926

Displacement:
   2,000 t light; 2,099 t standard; 2,503 t normal; 2,826 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (301.84 ft / 295.28 ft) x 41.83 ft x (14.76 / 16.16 ft)
   (92.00 m / 90.00 m) x 12.75 m  x (4.50 / 4.93 m)

Armament:
      3 - 5.51" / 140 mm 40.0 cal guns - 85.98lbs / 39.00kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1917 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      2 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 43.0 cal guns - 5.52lbs / 2.50kg shells, 750 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mount, 1926 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, aft deck forward
      1 raised mount
      4 - 1.10" / 28.0 mm 55.0 cal guns - 0.72lbs / 0.33kg shells, 5,000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mount, 1926 Model
     1 x Quad mount on centreline, aft deck aft
      1 raised mount
      6 - 0.30" / 7.5 mm 66.7 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 15,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 272 lbs / 123 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm   0.20" / 5 mm      0.79" / 20 mm
   2nd:   0.20" / 5 mm         -         0.79" / 20 mm

   - Box over machinery & magazines:
   2.17" / 55 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 2.36" / 60 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Diesel Internal combustion generators,
   Electric motors, 2 shafts, 8,000 shp / 5,968 Kw = 20.37 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 727 tons

Complement:
   176 - 230

Cost:
   £0.441 million / $1.764 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 61 tons, 2.4 %
      - Guns: 61 tons, 2.4 %
   Armour: 196 tons, 7.8 %
      - Armament: 5 tons, 0.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 181 tons, 7.2 %
      - Conning Tower: 9 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 256 tons, 10.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 536 tons, 21.4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 503 tons, 20.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 950 tons, 38.0 %
      - Hull below water: 300 tons
      - Hull above water: 300 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 300 tons
      - Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3,054 lbs / 1,385 Kg = 36.5 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 1.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
   Metacentric height 2.1 ft / 0.6 m
   Roll period: 12.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.18
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.31

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.480 / 0.495
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.06 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.18 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 39
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.17 ft / 0.66 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Forward deck:   25.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Aft deck:   40.00 %,  7.38 ft / 2.25 m,  7.38 ft / 2.25 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  7.38 ft / 2.25 m,  7.38 ft / 2.25 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.44 ft / 3.49 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 69.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 95.0 %
   Waterplane Area: 8,086 Square feet or 751 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 134 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 45 lbs/sq ft or 222 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.70
      - Longitudinal: 1.49
      - Overall: 0.75
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc Distribution
--Below Water (300t)
----65t Electric Drives
----192t Diesel Engines
----15t Enhanced Hydrophones
----10t Sonar
----15t Structural Reinforcement (to minimize damage from near-miss explosions)
----3t Construction Reserve
--Above Water (300t)
----50t 2xLR Wireless
----150t Additional Marine Accommodations
----75t Medical Facilities
----25t Flotilla Leader Facilities
--On Deck (300t)
----7t 1918 Fire Control
----25t Single Recon Floatplane with Catapult
----10t SR Wireless
----50t Minesweeping Equipment
----50t Mines
----75t Flotilla Leader Facilities
----40t Additional Ships Boats
----10t Improved Ventalation
----2t Single Depth Charge Throwers (one per side)
----1t Y Depth Charge Thrower (Astern)
----20t 280kg Depth Charges
----8t Construction Reserve
--Above Deck (50t)
----40t Nightfighting Equipment
----10t Improved Signaling Equipment


You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

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And the little counterpart.

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SL-26, Imperial Roman Republic Sloop laid down 1926

Displacement:
   500 t light; 515 t standard; 603 t normal; 673 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (234.72 ft / 229.66 ft) x 26.25 ft x (8.20 / 8.85 ft)
   (71.54 m / 70.00 m) x 8.00 m  x (2.50 / 2.70 m)

Armament:
      1 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 50.0 cal gun - 20.94lbs / 9.50kg shells, 75 per gun
     Quick firing gun in deck mount, 1926 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck forward
      4 - 1.10" / 28.0 mm 55.0 cal guns - 0.72lbs / 0.33kg shells, 1,500 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mount, 1926 Model
     1 x Quad mount on centreline, aft deck aft
      1 raised mount
      Weight of broadside 24 lbs / 11 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm   0.20" / 5 mm            -

Machinery:
   Diesel Internal combustion generators,
   Electric motors, 2 shafts, 3,600 shp / 2,686 Kw = 20.54 kts
   Range 4,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 158 tons

Complement:
   60 - 79

Cost:
   £0.122 million / $0.486 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 6 tons, 1.0 %
      - Guns: 6 tons, 1.0 %
   Armour: 1 tons, 0.2 %
      - Armament: 1 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 115 tons, 19.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 187 tons, 31.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 103 tons, 17.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 190 tons, 31.5 %
      - Hull below water: 125 tons
      - Hull above water: 25 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 25 tons
      - Above deck: 15 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     836 lbs / 379 Kg = 37.6 x 3.5 " / 90 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.36
   Metacentric height 1.2 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 10.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.06
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.427 / 0.442
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.75 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.15 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 40
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.17 ft / 0.66 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Forward deck:   25.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Aft deck:   40.00 %,  7.38 ft / 2.25 m,  7.38 ft / 2.25 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  7.38 ft / 2.25 m,  7.38 ft / 2.25 m
      - Average freeboard:      11.44 ft / 3.49 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 130.1 %
   Waterplane Area: 3,776 Square feet or 351 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 138 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 26 lbs/sq ft or 127 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.65
      - Longitudinal: 2.73
      - Overall: 0.75
   Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Misc Distribution
--Below Water (125t)
----86t Diesel Engines
----29t Electric Drives
----5t Basic Hydrophone
----5t Construction Reserve
--Above Water (25t)
----25t LR Wireless
--On Deck (25t)
----1t 1918 Fire Control
----3t Three Y Depth Charge Throwers
----5t "Stick Bomb" ASW
----10t 195kg Depth Chages
----10t Minesweeping Equipment
----1t Construction Reserve
--Above Deck (15t)
----10t Night Fighting Equipment
----5t Improved Signaling Equipment
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

snip

#34
Minor revision to the Armored Cruiser. Updated AA armament to reflect later adopted standard (hybrid 90/28 battery, 57 sub for 90 when weight issues). Minor revisions to armor layout to facilitate additional 90mm guns.

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AC-26B, Imperial Roman Armored Cruiser laid down 1926

Displacement:
   17,000 t light; 17,702 t standard; 19,092 t normal; 20,204 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (639.78 ft / 626.64 ft) x 75.46 ft x (22.97 / 24.08 ft)
   (195.00 m / 191.00 m) x 23.00 m  x (7.00 / 7.34 m)

Armament:
      8 - 9.25" / 235 mm 45.0 cal guns - 396.83lbs / 180.00kg shells, 125 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1919 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      6 - 5.51" / 140 mm 55.0 cal guns - 83.78lbs / 38.00kg shells, 175 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1909 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 20.94lbs / 9.50kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1926 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      16 - 1.10" / 28.0 mm 55.0 cal guns - 0.72lbs / 0.33kg shells, 5,000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1926 Model
     4 x Quad mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      10 - 0.30" / 7.5 mm 66.7 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.01kg shells, 15,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      10 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 3,815 lbs / 1,730 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6.50" / 165 mm   407.32 ft / 124.15 m   18.32 ft / 5.59 m
   Ends:   1.97" / 50 mm   219.29 ft / 66.84 m   10.43 ft / 3.18 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length
     Main Belt inclined 10.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      1.57" / 40 mm   407.32 ft / 124.15 m   24.61 ft / 7.50 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 61.52 ft / 18.75 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   9.25" / 235 mm   3.94" / 100 mm      7.48" / 190 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.59" / 15 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   0.20" / 5 mm         -         0.59" / 15 mm
   4th:   0.20" / 5 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.20" / 5 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.95" / 75 mm
   Forecastle: 1.38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1.38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 7.87" / 200 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 110,000 shp / 82,060 Kw = 30.50 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,502 tons

Complement:
   811 - 1,055

Cost:
   £5.070 million / $20.281 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 1,117 tons, 5.9 %
      - Guns: 1,117 tons, 5.9 %
   Armour: 5,609 tons, 29.4 %
      - Belts: 2,214 tons, 11.6 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 584 tons, 3.1 %
      - Armament: 951 tons, 5.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,740 tons, 9.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 121 tons, 0.6 %
   Machinery: 3,521 tons, 18.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,102 tons, 32.0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,092 tons, 11.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 650 tons, 3.4 %
      - Hull below water: 200 tons
      - Hull above water: 200 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 200 tons
      - Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     27,517 lbs / 12,482 Kg = 69.5 x 9.3 " / 235 mm shells or 3.9 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
   Metacentric height 4.4 ft / 1.3 m
   Roll period: 15.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.47
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.615 / 0.621
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.30 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 25.03 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.99 ft / 0.91 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  27.89 ft / 8.50 m,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m
      - Forward deck:   45.00 %,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m,  24.61 ft / 7.50 m
      - Aft deck:   20.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      22.28 ft / 6.79 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 184.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 35,082 Square feet or 3,259 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 130 lbs/sq ft or 635 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.29
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room


Misc Distribution
-Below Water (200t)
--100t Additional Pumps
--70t Additional Damage Control Equipment
--30t Improved Food & Drink storage
--5t Construction Reserve
-Above Water (200t)
-Above Water (200t)
--40t Improved Officer Accommodations
--40t Improved Crew Accommodations
--70t Additional Damage Control Equipment
--20t Enhanced Ventilation and Crew Comfort
--25t Long Range Wireless
--5t Construction Reserve
-On Deck (200t)
--120t 1918 Fire Control
--30t Armed Recon Floatplane
--5t Additional Aviation Stores
--25t Flag Facilities
--20t Enhanced Ventilation and Crew Comfort
-Above Deck (50t)
--15t Additional Optical Spotting Equipment
--20t Night Fighting Equipment
--15t Improved Signaling Equipment
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

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Updating ASC-26's MISC weight, as it has some carryover from GPC-21 which needs to be cleaned up.

QuoteASC-26, Imperial Roman Aviation Scout Cruiser laid down 1926

Displacement:
   11,100 t light; 11,550 t standard; 13,030 t normal; 14,214 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (639.76 ft / 623.35 ft) x 63.98 ft x (21.33 / 22.83 ft)
   (195.00 m / 190.00 m) x 19.50 m  x (6.50 / 6.96 m)

Armament:
      8 - 7.09" / 180 mm 50.0 cal guns - 187.39lbs / 85.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1915 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
      1 raised mount
      4 - 5.51" / 140 mm 55.0 cal guns - 85.98lbs / 39.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1909 Model
     2 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      4 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 20.94lbs / 9.50kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1926 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 raised mounts
     2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
      2 double raised mounts
      12 - 1.10" / 28.0 mm 55.0 cal guns - 0.72lbs / 0.33kg shells, 5,000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1926 Model
     2 x Quad mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 raised mounts
     1 x Quad mount on centreline, forward deck aft
      1 double raised mount
      Weight of broadside 1,936 lbs / 878 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.15" / 80 mm   425.98 ft / 129.84 m   16.40 ft / 5.00 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.36" / 60 mm   1.18" / 30 mm      2.36" / 60 mm
   2nd:   0.98" / 25 mm   0.59" / 15 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   0.20" / 5 mm         -         0.59" / 15 mm
   4th:         -            -         0.59" / 15 mm

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.38" / 35 mm
   Forecastle: 0.00" / 0 mm  Quarter deck: 1.38" / 35 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 110,000 shp / 82,060 Kw = 32.81 kts
   Range 11,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,663 tons

Complement:
   609 - 792

Cost:
   £3.775 million / $15.101 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 601 tons, 4.6 %
      - Guns: 601 tons, 4.6 %
   Armour: 1,780 tons, 13.7 %
      - Belts: 900 tons, 6.9 %
      - Armament: 236 tons, 1.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 644 tons, 4.9 %
   Machinery: 3,521 tons, 27.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,588 tons, 35.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,930 tons, 14.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 610 tons, 4.7 %
      - Hull below water: 100 tons
      - Hull above water: 150 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 335 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     15,589 lbs / 7,071 Kg = 87.6 x 7.1 " / 180 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.23
   Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 13.9 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.40
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.536 / 0.546
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.74 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 24.97 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 41
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  27.07 ft / 8.25 m,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m
      - Forward deck:   50.00 %,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m,  25.43 ft / 7.75 m
      - Aft deck:   18.34 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   11.66 %,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m,  16.40 ft / 5.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      22.85 ft / 6.96 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 105.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 197.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 27,480 Square feet or 2,553 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 108 lbs/sq ft or 529 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.63
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Misc Weight Distribution
-Below Water (100t)
--30t Additional Pumps
--30t Additional Damage Control Equipment
--30t Additional Aviation consumable stores
--10t Improved Food & Drink storage
-Above Water (150t)
--30t Additional Damage Control Equipment
--20t Enhanced Ventilation and Crew Comfort
--50t Long Range Wireless
--50t Aviation Support Facilites (eg pilots ready room, hanger ventilation)
-On Deck (335t)
--50t 1918 Fire Control
--80t 8x610mm Torpedo Tubes (2x4 mounts Aft Deck Forward + 1 Reload per side)
--25t Enhanced Ventilation and Crew Comfort
--10t Short Range Wireless
--150t  Six Armed Floatplanes
--15t 3x Catapults (one on each side aft deck, one on fantail)
--5t Construction Reserve
-Above Deck (25t)
--10t Additional Optical Spotting Equipment
--10t Night Fighting Equipment
--5t Improved Signaling Equipment
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

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Minor changes to LBS-26.

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LBS-26, Imperial Roman Republic Fast Battleship laid down 1926

Displacement:
   46,000 t light; 48,319 t standard; 50,927 t normal; 53,014 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (869.41 ft / 853.02 ft) x 104.99 ft x (31.17 / 32.24 ft)
   (265.00 m / 260.00 m) x 32.00 m  x (9.50 / 9.83 m)

Armament:
      8 - 16.14" / 410 mm 45.0 cal guns - 2,120.85lbs / 962.00kg shells, 110 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1915 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      20 - 5.51" / 140 mm 55.0 cal guns - 85.98lbs / 39.00kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1909 Model
     10 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      8 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 20.94lbs / 9.50kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1926 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      24 - 1.10" / 28.0 mm 55.0 cal guns - 0.73lbs / 0.33kg shells, 5,000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1926 Model
     6 x Quad mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
      10 - 0.30" / 7.5 mm 66.7 cal guns - 0.01lbs / 0.00kg shells, 15,000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1925 Model
     10 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      10 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 18,871 lbs / 8,560 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   13.4" / 340 mm   513.35 ft / 156.47 m   18.68 ft / 5.69 m
   Ends:   1.97" / 50 mm   339.67 ft / 103.53 m   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
     Main Belt covers 93 % of normal length
     Main Belt inclined 15.00 degrees (positive = in)

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      2.56" / 65 mm   513.35 ft / 156.47 m   34.45 ft / 10.50 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 84.32 ft / 25.70 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   17.3" / 440 mm   7.09" / 180 mm      11.8" / 300 mm
   2nd:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.59" / 15 mm      3.94" / 100 mm
   3rd:   0.20" / 5 mm         -         0.98" / 25 mm
   4th:   0.20" / 5 mm         -         0.59" / 15 mm
   5th:   0.20" / 5 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 4.53" / 115 mm
   Forecastle: 1.38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1.38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 13.39" / 340 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 180,000 shp / 134,280 Kw = 30.47 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 4,695 tons

Complement:
   1,694 - 2,203

Cost:
   £14.618 million / $58.473 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 3,884 tons, 7.6 %
      - Guns: 3,884 tons, 7.6 %
   Armour: 16,066 tons, 31.5 %
      - Belts: 5,852 tons, 11.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1,674 tons, 3.3 %
      - Armament: 3,316 tons, 6.5 %
      - Armour Deck: 4,828 tons, 9.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 396 tons, 0.8 %
   Machinery: 5,762 tons, 11.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 17,377 tons, 34.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,927 tons, 9.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 2,910 tons, 5.7 %
      - Hull below water: 1,900 tons
      - Hull above water: 235 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 675 tons
      - Above deck: 100 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     70,216 lbs / 31,850 Kg = 33.4 x 16.1 " / 410 mm shells or 10.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 7.0 ft / 2.1 m
   Roll period: 16.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.09

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.639 / 0.643
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.13 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29.21 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 5.64 ft / 1.72 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.82 %,  29.53 ft / 9.00 m,  27.07 ft / 8.25 m
      - Forward deck:   40.00 %,  27.07 ft / 8.25 m,  27.07 ft / 8.25 m
      - Aft deck:   20.18 %,  18.04 ft / 5.50 m,  18.04 ft / 5.50 m
      - Quarter deck:   19.00 %,  18.04 ft / 5.50 m,  18.04 ft / 5.50 m
      - Average freeboard:      23.74 ft / 7.24 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 183.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 67,888 Square feet or 6,307 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 203 lbs/sq ft or 991 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.01
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room

Misc Weight Distribution
-Below Water (1900t)
--1445t Electric Drives
--200t Additional Pumps
--200t Additional Damage Control Equipment
--50t Improved Food & Drink storage
-Above Water (235t)
--40t Improved Officer Accommodations
--40t Improved Crew Accommodations
--70t Additional Damage Control Equipment
--20t Enhanced Ventilation and Crew Comfort
--50t Long Range Wireless (2x)
--10t Construction Reserve
-On Deck (675t)
--405t 1918 Fire Control
--50t Aviation Facilities (2x Recon Plane & 2x Catapults)
--50t Flag Facilities
--50t Enhanced Ventilation and Crew Comfort
--80t Power Train Assist for 140mm guns
--10t Short Range Wireless
--10t Construction Reserve
-Above Deck (100t)
--15t Additional Optical Spotting Equipment
--70t Night Fighting Equipment
--15t Improved Signaling Equipment
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

The Rock Doctor

Your secondary needs twin or 2-gun mounts.

Definitely a badass.

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Quote from: The Rock Doctor on June 13, 2023, 07:31:34 PM
Your secondary needs twin or 2-gun mounts.

Definitely a badass.

Thanks for the catch, updated.

You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

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Somewhere, in some design office, a plan is floated. A plan to provide the fleet with a truly mobile airfield with which to cover the fleet from aerial reconnaissance.

QuoteTotally Not Saratoga, Imperial Roman Large Aircraft Carrier laid down 1926

Displacement:
   43,739 t light; 44,859 t standard; 47,927 t normal; 50,381 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (869.41 ft / 853.02 ft) x 104.99 ft x (31.17 / 32.48 ft)
   (265.00 m / 260.00 m) x 32.00 m  x (9.50 / 9.90 m)

Armament:
      8 - 7.09" / 180 mm 50.0 cal guns - 187.39lbs / 85.00kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1915 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on sides amidships
      2 raised mounts
     2 x 2-gun mounts on sides amidships
      2 double raised mounts
      12 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 20.94lbs / 9.50kg shells, 250 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1926 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      24 - 1.10" / 28.0 mm 55.0 cal guns - 0.72lbs / 0.33kg shells, 150 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1926 Model
     6 x Quad mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1,768 lbs / 802 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6.50" / 165 mm   554.46 ft / 169.00 m   18.04 ft / 5.50 m
   Ends:   1.97" / 50 mm   298.52 ft / 90.99 m   12.30 ft / 3.75 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
      2.56" / 65 mm   554.46 ft / 169.00 m   34.45 ft / 10.50 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 84.32 ft / 25.70 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.36" / 60 mm   1.18" / 30 mm      2.36" / 60 mm
   2nd:   0.20" / 5 mm         -         0.59" / 15 mm
   3rd:   0.20" / 5 mm         -         0.59" / 15 mm

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 2.95" / 75 mm
   Forecastle: 1.38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1.38" / 35 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 180,000 shp / 134,280 Kw = 30.88 kts
   Range 10,000nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5,522 tons

Complement:
   1,619 - 2,105

Cost:
   £8.738 million / $34.950 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 569 tons, 1.2 %
      - Guns: 569 tons, 1.2 %
   Armour: 8,449 tons, 17.6 %
      - Belts: 3,016 tons, 6.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1,809 tons, 3.8 %
      - Armament: 373 tons, 0.8 %
      - Armour Deck: 3,251 tons, 6.8 %
   Machinery: 5,762 tons, 12.0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 15,274 tons, 31.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,188 tons, 8.7 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 13,685 tons, 28.6 %
      - Hull below water: 7,315 tons
      - Hull above water: 6,000 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 300 tons
      - Above deck: 70 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     97,014 lbs / 44,005 Kg = 545.2 x 7.1 " / 180 mm shells or 12.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.38
   Metacentric height 9.5 ft / 2.9 m
   Roll period: 14.3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.11
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a round stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.601 / 0.606
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.13 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 29.21 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 35
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.07 ft / 0.63 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  39.37 ft / 12.00 m,  39.37 ft / 12.00 m
      - Forward deck:   30.00 %,  39.37 ft / 12.00 m,  39.37 ft / 12.00 m
      - Aft deck:   35.00 %,  39.37 ft / 12.00 m,  39.37 ft / 12.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  39.37 ft / 12.00 m,  39.37 ft / 12.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      39.37 ft / 12.00 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 303.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 65,558 Square feet or 6,091 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 146 lbs/sq ft or 711 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.93
      - Longitudinal: 2.07
      - Overall: 1.00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Airgroup of 110 post-1933 Aircraft
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

The Rock Doctor


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#41
Proposed refit for the incredibly old Caicos-vet E-Class Destroyers. The surviving two have been plying around the Amazon delta and are very much overdue for a refit. Attempt at getting as close to GFD-26 armament as practical.

QuoteE-Class (1926 Refit), Imperial Roman Republic Destroyer laid down 1908

Displacement:
   750 t light; 781 t standard; 848 t normal; 902 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (258.98 ft / 252.62 ft) x 26.25 ft x (11.48 / 11.95 ft)
   (78.94 m / 77.00 m) x 8.00 m  x (3.50 / 3.64 m)

Armament:
      2 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm 50.0 cal guns - 20.94lbs / 9.50kg shells, 175 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mount, 1926 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, forward deck forward
      2 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 55.0 cal guns - 6.06lbs / 2.75kg shells, 500 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mount, 1926 Model
     1 x Twin mount on centreline, aft deck aft
      1 raised mount
      4 - 1.10" / 28.0 mm 55.0 cal guns - 0.72lbs / 0.33kg shells, 4,000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mount, 1926 Model
     1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck aft
      1 raised mount
      Weight of broadside 57 lbs / 26 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.39" / 10 mm   0.20" / 5 mm            -
   2nd:   0.20" / 5 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 24,011 shp / 17,912 Kw = 31.28 kts
   Range 3,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 121 tons

Complement:
   78 - 102

Cost:
   £0.099 million / $0.396 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 12 tons, 1.4 %
      - Guns: 12 tons, 1.4 %
   Armour: 2 tons, 0.2 %
      - Armament: 2 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 494 tons, 58.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 203 tons, 23.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 98 tons, 11.6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 40 tons, 4.7 %
      - On freeboard deck: 40 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     168 lbs / 76 Kg = 7.6 x 3.5 " / 90 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.22
   Metacentric height 1.0 ft / 0.3 m
   Roll period: 11.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 47 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.10
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 0.56

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.390 / 0.398
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.63 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 15.89 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 71 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 78
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 2.40 ft / 0.73 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m,  14.76 ft / 4.50 m
      - Aft deck:   45.00 %,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m,  6.56 ft / 2.00 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.84 ft / 3.00 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 193.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 89.9 %
   Waterplane Area: 4,053 Square feet or 377 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 34 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 27 lbs/sq ft or 134 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.53
      - Longitudinal: 1.66
      - Overall: 0.60
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

Misc Distribution
On Deck (40t)
--15t 3x610mm Torpedoes [Single Tripple Mount Aft Deck Centerline]
--10t Short-Range Wireless
--5t Improved spray protections for Torpedo tubes
--2t 1918 Fire Control
--5t Night fighting Equpment
--3t Construction Reserve.

Refit Cost
--New Guns
---12t
--New Misc
---40t

Total Cost - 52t -> .052 $ & BP
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
Who cheer when solider lads march by
Sneak home and pray that you'll never know
The hell where youth and laughter go.
-Siegfried Sassoon

TacCovert4

His Most Honorable Majesty,  Ali the 8th, Sultan of All Aztecs,  Eagle of the Sun, Jaguar of the Sun, Snake of the Sun, Seal of the Sun, Whale of the Sun, Defender of the Faith, Keeper of the Teachings of Allah most gracious and merciful.

The Rock Doctor

Seems reasonable for that quiet assignment.

Jefgte

QuoteSeems reasonable for that quiet assignment.

I agree  ;)
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