Mayan Fleet - 320 000t

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Basing :
During the Caicos War it was established that there is a base in the Cancun area, as Mayan patrols operated from there - probably a dredged coastal lagoon.
I would expect a similar port dredged at Ciudad del Carmen.
As Homeland areas, they do not need a Port Symbol, there has been plenty of time to develop strategic bases.


Since the Coastal Defenses are regional, both Mobile and Pensacola are covered, but my presumption would be Mobile is where the Naval base is.
The bay mouth is easier to defend, and deeper- giving more warning of intruders. 

Force Allocation :
I think I would have expected 1/4 to 1/6 of the Mayan Navy on the Pacific Coast,
but 1/3rd is within reason.

One should recall there was a valid reason to have vessels there - there would have been transpacific trade,
and without the Canal, ships would generally remain on the coast they were built on.

Sailing ships had the range that steamers did not, as reflected by the Incan ships. With China/Japan/Aztecs/Maya/Inca,
there was probably limited trade following the wind routes the Spanish Galleons took. That trade should
be picking up with the Parthian freeports providing rest and repair stations, and the Wilno Canal giving passage to Europe.

The Inca/Maya/Aztecs likely had some limited trade, and for the Inca, it was probably better to tranship to Europe through
an overland transfer than sail around Patagonia.

I believe historically, three routes were used prior to the Canal
- what in N7 is the Aztec/Mayan border, rendering that one out of play.
- The Nicaraguan canal route. The Mayans presumably have an overland route to Lake Nicaraguan and then down the river.
- The Panama route- seized by Wilno.

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Edzna, Mayan SC2 laid down 1907

Mistake about "Overall 1.00" corrected

Displacement:
   3 545 t light was 3670t
6 x 140 was 5 x 140

=> Update the PLAN
32 x MTBA was 28

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Update the Mayas Plan360.

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After T4 - 1915 - 870t - 3x120+6TTx533 - 30.3kts - 3800nm@10kts
  => T5 - 1923 - 900t - 4x120+6TTx533+26minen - 31.2kts - 4800nm@10kts

T5, Mayan T5 - 900t laid down 1923

Displacement:
   900 t light; 936 t standard; 1 006 t normal; 1 062 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (314,96 ft / 314,96 ft) x 29,53 ft x (9,47 / 9,81 ft)
   (96,00 m / 96,00 m) x 9,00 m  x (2,89 / 2,99 m)

Armament:
      4 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 125 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      2 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 3,35lbs / 1,52kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck forward
      Weight of broadside 219 lbs / 100 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 23 000 shp / 17 158 Kw = 31,23 kts
   Range 4 800nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 127 tons

Complement:
   89 - 116

Cost:
   £0,327 million / $1,310 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 39 tons, 3,9 %
      - Guns: 39 tons, 3,9 %
   Armour: 6 tons, 0,6 %
      - Armament: 6 tons, 0,6 %
   Machinery: 503 tons, 50,0 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 286 tons, 28,4 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 106 tons, 10,6 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 66 tons, 6,6 %
      - Hull below water: 15 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 47 tons
      - Above deck: 4 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     297 lbs / 135 Kg = 5,6 x 4,7 " / 120 mm shells or 0,2 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,14
   Metacentric height 1,0 ft / 0,3 m
   Roll period: 12,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,42
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,400 / 0,408
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,67 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17,75 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  15,91 ft / 4,85 m,  13,94 ft / 4,25 m
      - Forward deck:   33,00 %,  13,94 ft / 4,25 m,  11,32 ft / 3,45 m
      - Aft deck:   33,00 %,  11,32 ft / 3,45 m,  11,32 ft / 3,45 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,50 %,  11,32 ft / 3,45 m,  11,32 ft / 3,45 m
      - Average freeboard:      12,35 ft / 3,76 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 173,5 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 146,3 %
   Waterplane Area: 5 725 Square feet or 532 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 59 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 29 lbs/sq ft or 141 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,50
      - Longitudinal: 1,63
      - Overall: 0,57
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

4t for fire control - 1918
18t for 2 x 3TT x 533
3t for 90DC
26t for minen or reserved
15t for Hydrophone

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A possible SC to screen the BBs line...

SC4, Mayan SC4 laid down 1923

Displacement:
   1 740 t light; 1 808 t standard; 1 913 t normal; 1 998 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (363,47 ft / 360,89 ft) x 36,09 ft x (10,49 / 10,84 ft)
   (110,79 m / 110,00 m) x 11,00 m  x (3,20 / 3,30 m)

Armament:
      4 - 5,51" / 140 mm 45,0 cal guns - 84,44lbs / 38,30kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1923 Model
     2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      4 - 1,85" / 47,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 3,35lbs / 1,52kg shells, 200 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 351 lbs / 159 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 28 989 shp / 21 626 Kw = 30,00 kts
   Range 4 800nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 190 tons

Complement:
   144 - 188

Cost:
   £0,619 million / $2,475 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 94 tons, 4,9 %
      - Guns: 94 tons, 4,9 %
   Armour: 10 tons, 0,5 %
      - Armament: 10 tons, 0,5 %
   Machinery: 849 tons, 44,4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 679 tons, 35,5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 173 tons, 9,1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 108 tons, 5,6 %
      - Hull above water: 10 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 64 tons
      - Above deck: 34 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     833 lbs / 378 Kg = 9,9 x 5,5 " / 140 mm shells or 0,4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,05
   Metacentric height 1,2 ft / 0,4 m
   Roll period: 13,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,58
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,490 / 0,495
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19,00 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 66
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  18,37 ft / 5,60 m,  16,08 ft / 4,90 m
      - Forward deck:   32,50 %,  16,08 ft / 4,90 m,  14,11 ft / 4,30 m
      - Aft deck:   34,00 %,  14,11 ft / 4,30 m,  14,11 ft / 4,30 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,00 %,  14,11 ft / 4,30 m,  14,11 ft / 4,30 m
      - Average freeboard:      14,93 ft / 4,55 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 159,9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 165,9 %
   Waterplane Area: 8 600 Square feet or 799 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 81 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 47 lbs/sq ft or 230 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,68
      - Longitudinal: 1,96
      - Overall: 0,75
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

25t for Marconi
9t for top fire control
10t for additionnal ventilation
24t for 2 x 3 TT x 533
40t for 40 minen or reserve weight

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C5, Mayan 6000t laid down 1923

Displacement:
   6 000 t light; 6 278 t standard; 6 542 t normal; 6 753 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (505,25 ft / 505,25 ft) x 62,34 ft x (14,54 / 14,89 ft)
   (154,00 m / 154,00 m) x 19,00 m  x (4,43 / 4,54 m)

Armament:
      6 - 7,99" / 203 mm 45,0 cal guns - 257,42lbs / 116,76kg shells, 125 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1923 Model
     2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      8 - 4,72" / 120 mm 45,0 cal guns - 53,17lbs / 24,12kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      2 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 22,01lbs / 9,98kg shells, 180 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     2 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
      2 raised mounts
      4 - 0,31" / 8,0 mm 50,0 cal guns - 0,02lbs / 0,01kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 2 014 lbs / 914 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   4,33" / 110 mm   328,08 ft / 100,00 m   9,84 ft / 3,00 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5,91" / 150 mm   1,77" / 45 mm      3,74" / 95 mm
   2nd:   0,79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,57" / 40 mm
   Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3,94" / 100 mm, Aft 1,97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 39 300 shp / 29 318 Kw = 27,53 kts
   Range 5 400nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 475 tons

Complement:
   363 - 472

Cost:
   £1,634 million / $6,534 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 516 tons, 7,9 %
      - Guns: 516 tons, 7,9 %
   Armour: 1 418 tons, 21,7 %
      - Belts: 587 tons, 9,0 %
      - Armament: 199 tons, 3,0 %
      - Armour Deck: 588 tons, 9,0 %
      - Conning Towers: 45 tons, 0,7 %
   Machinery: 1 314 tons, 20,1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 625 tons, 40,1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 542 tons, 8,3 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 127 tons, 1,9 %
      - Hull below water: 16 tons
      - Hull above water: 16 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 18 tons
      - Above deck: 77 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9 299 lbs / 4 218 Kg = 36,4 x 8,0 " / 203 mm shells or 1,7 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,15
   Metacentric height 3,2 ft / 1,0 m
   Roll period: 14,7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,40
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,02

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,504
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,11 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 22,48 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  20,34 ft / 6,20 m,  17,72 ft / 5,40 m
      - Forward deck:   33,00 %,  17,72 ft / 5,40 m,  14,44 ft / 4,40 m
      - Aft deck:   33,00 %,  14,44 ft / 4,40 m,  14,44 ft / 4,40 m
      - Quarter deck:   16,50 %,  14,44 ft / 4,40 m,  14,44 ft / 4,40 m
      - Average freeboard:      15,73 ft / 4,80 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 168,0 %
   Waterplane Area: 20 984 Square feet or 1 950 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 101 lbs/sq ft or 494 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,25
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

25t for Marconi
52t for top fire control - 1918
16t for additionnal ventilation
16t for additionnal pumps
18t reserve

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4T2x356, Mayan BB5 laid down 1923


Displacement:
   17 800 t light; 18 904 t standard; 19 436 t normal; 19 861 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (570,87 ft / 570,87 ft) x 88,58 ft x (22,42 / 22,82 ft)
   (174,00 m / 174,00 m) x 27,00 m  x (6,83 / 6,96 m)

Armament:
      8 - 14,02" / 356 mm 45,0 cal guns - 1 388,36lbs / 629,75kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1923 Model
     4 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      1 raised mount foreward
      12 - 5,51" / 140 mm 45,0 cal guns - 84,44lbs / 38,30kg shells, 160 per gun
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1923 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 - 3,46" / 88,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 20,97lbs / 9,51kg shells, 180 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1923 Model
     4 x Single mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 12 204 lbs / 5 536 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12,6" / 320 mm   370,73 ft / 113,00 m   10,50 ft / 3,20 m
   Ends:   1,77" / 45 mm   200,13 ft / 61,00 m   7,87 ft / 2,40 m
   Upper:   3,54" / 90 mm   370,73 ft / 113,00 m   7,87 ft / 2,40 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,57" / 40 mm   370,73 ft / 113,00 m   19,03 ft / 5,80 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 68,90 ft / 21,00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   13,4" / 340 mm   3,35" / 85 mm      11,8" / 300 mm
   3rd:   1,57" / 40 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 3,15" / 80 mm
   Forecastle: 1,38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1,38" / 35 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 11,81" / 300 mm, Aft 4,72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 27 399 shp / 20 440 Kw = 21,00 kts
   Range 5 400nm at 10,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 957 tons

Complement:
   822 - 1 069

Cost:
   £5,350 million / $21,401 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 2 075 tons, 10,7 %
      - Guns: 2 075 tons, 10,7 %
   Armour: 6 923 tons, 35,6 %
      - Belts: 2 696 tons, 13,9 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 411 tons, 2,1 %
      - Armament: 1 620 tons, 8,3 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 938 tons, 10,0 %
      - Conning Towers: 258 tons, 1,3 %
   Machinery: 916 tons, 4,7 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 7 252 tons, 37,3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 636 tons, 8,4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 634 tons, 3,3 %
      - Hull below water: 50 tons
      - Hull above water: 50 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 300 tons
      - Above deck: 234 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     28 397 lbs / 12 880 Kg = 20,6 x 14,0 " / 356 mm shells or 5,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12
   Metacentric height 5,2 ft / 1,6 m
   Roll period: 16,3 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,73
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,600 / 0,602
   Length to Beam Ratio: 6,44 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23,89 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 43 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  21,00 ft / 6,40 m,  18,04 ft / 5,50 m
      - Forward deck:   32,50 %,  18,04 ft / 5,50 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Aft deck:   32,50 %,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,50 %,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m,  14,76 ft / 4,50 m
      - Average freeboard:      16,08 ft / 4,90 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86,1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 133,6 %
   Waterplane Area: 36 985 Square feet or 3 436 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 176 lbs/sq ft or 859 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,97
      - Longitudinal: 1,29
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

25t for Marconi
209t for Top fire control - 1918
50t for additionnal pumps installation
50t for additionnal air equipement
250t for Torpedo net - 125m each side
50t reserved