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Just throwing this out incase anyone wants to use it for somthing, I initialy planed to use them for my own fleet but decided against it...


PCX-1899, Italia for Export Protected Cruiser laid down 1899

Displacement:
   2,500 t light; 2,615 t standard; 2,911 t normal; 3,148 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (306.00 ft / 305.00 ft) x 35.00 ft x (18.00 / 19.13 ft)
   (93.27 m / 92.96 m) x 10.67 m  x (5.49 / 5.83 m)

Armament:
      2 - 8.00" / 203 mm 40.0 cal guns - 250.00lbs / 113.40kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1899 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      7 - 4.70" / 119 mm 40.0 cal guns - 50.00lbs / 22.68kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts, 1899 Model
     3 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      3 raised mounts
     4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 850 lbs / 386 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      8 - 17.0" / 432 mm, 12.00 ft / 3.66 m torpedoes - 0.388 t each, 3.107 t total
   In 8 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm   300.00 ft / 91.44 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
   Ends:   2.00" / 51 mm     5.00 ft / 1.52 m   6.00 ft / 1.83 m
     Main Belt covers 151 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.00" / 127 mm   1.00" / 25 mm      1.00" / 25 mm

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.50" / 38 mm
   Forecastle: 1.50" / 38 mm  Quarter deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 6.00" / 152 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 8,057 ihp / 6,011 Kw = 20.00 kts
   Range 4,400nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 533 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   197 - 257

Cost:
   £0.309 million / $1.235 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 174 tons, 6.0 %
      - Guns: 170 tons, 5.8 %
      - Weapons: 4 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 407 tons, 14.0 %
      - Belts: 140 tons, 4.8 %
      - Armament: 36 tons, 1.2 %
      - Armour Deck: 205 tons, 7.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 26 tons, 0.9 %
   Machinery: 1,183 tons, 40.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 721 tons, 24.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 411 tons, 14.1 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 15 tons, 0.5 %
      - On freeboard deck: 15 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     1,128 lbs / 512 Kg = 4.4 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 1.4 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 1.3 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 13.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 74 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.79
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.06

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.530 / 0.539
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.71 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 17.46 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 4.77 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   10.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Forward deck:   15.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Aft deck:   65.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m
      - Quarter deck:   10.00 %,  9.00 ft / 2.74 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:      9.17 ft / 2.80 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 149.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 62.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 7,314 Square feet or 679 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 83 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 66 lbs/sq ft or 323 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.94
      - Longitudinal: 1.73
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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The USN ends up with bigger ships because of it's decision in the 1900 design year to go with AXY designs, and  it's better armor (especially end and upper).    The stacked turrets are heavy, too, which inflates things even more.  This one isn't as big, being based on the 1900 USS Salt Lake City design instead of the USS Pittsburgh design.

USS Bismarck, United States Armored Cruiser laid down 1902

Displacement:
   15,783 t light; 16,446 t standard; 17,625 t normal; 18,569 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (555.00 ft / 555.00 ft) x 75.00 ft x (26.00 / 27.12 ft)
   (169.16 m / 169.16 m) x 22.86 m  x (7.92 / 8.26 m)

Armament:
      6 - 10.00" / 254 mm 45.0 cal guns - 510.00lbs / 231.33kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1902 Model
     3 x Twin mounts on centreline ends, majority aft
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm 50.0 cal guns - 105.01lbs / 47.63kg shells, 150 per gun
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts, 1902 Model
     12 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      12 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm 50.0 cal guns - 13.01lbs / 5.90kg shells, 400 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1902 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      6 raised mounts
     6 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      6 double raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 4,476 lbs / 2,030 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   6.00" / 152 mm   488.40 ft / 148.86 m   13.00 ft / 3.96 m
   Ends:   4.00" / 102 mm     66.58 ft / 20.29 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
   Upper:   4.00" / 102 mm   300.00 ft / 91.44 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 135 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   6.00" / 152 mm   4.00" / 102 mm      6.00" / 152 mm
   3rd:   4.00" / 102 mm         -         4.00" / 102 mm

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 2.00" / 51 mm
   Forecastle: 2.00" / 51 mm  Quarter deck: 2.00" / 51 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 9.00" / 229 mm, Aft 6.00" / 152 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 4 shafts, 41,707 ihp / 31,113 Kw = 24.00 kts
   Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,123 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   764 - 994

Cost:
   £1.802 million / $7.206 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 935 tons, 5.3 %
      - Guns: 935 tons, 5.3 %
   Armour: 3,885 tons, 22.0 %
      - Belts: 2,032 tons, 11.5 %
      - Armament: 528 tons, 3.0 %
      - Armour Deck: 1,106 tons, 6.3 %
      - Conning Towers: 219 tons, 1.2 %
   Machinery: 6,319 tons, 35.9 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,603 tons, 26.1 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,842 tons, 10.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 41 tons, 0.2 %
      - Hull above water: 16 tons
      - Above deck: 25 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     9,773 lbs / 4,433 Kg = 19.5 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.39
   Metacentric height 5.8 ft / 1.8 m
   Roll period: 13.1 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.29
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.570 / 0.576
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.40 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.56 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   8.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Aft deck:   68.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Quarter deck:   4.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m
      - Average freeboard:      15.13 ft / 4.61 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 135.3 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 110.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 29,600 Square feet or 2,750 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 88 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs/sq ft or 590 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.18
      - Overall: 1.01
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Above-water miscellaneous weight accounts for 4 above waterline broadside 18" 5m wet heater torpedo tubes and 12 reload torpedoes.

Above-decks miscellaneous weight allows for a long-range wireless installation.

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Re: USN ships
« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2012, 10:10:26 AM »
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An a-historical protected cruiser.

USS Montgomery, United States Protected Cruiser laid down 1898

Displacement:
   3,687 t light; 3,822 t standard; 4,310 t normal; 4,700 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (430.20 ft / 420.00 ft) x 42.25 ft x (17.00 / 18.15 ft)
   (131.13 m / 128.02 m) x 12.88 m  x (5.18 / 5.53 m)

Armament:
      2 - 6.00" / 152 mm 50.0 cal guns - 105.01lbs / 47.63kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1898 Model
     2 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      6 - 4.00" / 102 mm 50.0 cal guns - 33.00lbs / 14.97kg shells, 250 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 5.70lbs / 2.58kg shells, 300 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1898 Model
     8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 454 lbs / 206 kg
      Main Torpedoes
      4 - 18.0" / 457 mm, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m torpedoes - 0.405 t each, 1.620 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes
      2nd Torpedoes
      8 - 18.0" / 457 mm, 13.12 ft / 4.00 m torpedoes - 0.405 t each, 3.240 t total
   In 2 sets of deck mounted reloads

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Ends:   Unarmoured
   Upper:   2.00" / 51 mm   400.00 ft / 121.92 m   5.00 ft / 1.52 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2.00" / 51 mm         -         2.00" / 51 mm
   2nd:   1.00" / 25 mm         -               -

   - Protected deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1.50" / 38 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.50" / 38 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 3.00" / 76 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 11,944 ihp / 8,910 Kw = 21.50 kts
   Range 5,500nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 878 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   265 - 345

Cost:
   £0.433 million / $1.731 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 123 tons, 2.9 %
      - Guns: 117 tons, 2.7 %
      - Weapons: 6 tons, 0.1 %
   Armour: 517 tons, 12.0 %
      - Belts: 153 tons, 3.6 %
      - Armament: 26 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 321 tons, 7.4 %
      - Conning Tower: 17 tons, 0.4 %
   Machinery: 1,902 tons, 44.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,144 tons, 26.5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 623 tons, 14.5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,087 lbs / 947 Kg = 19.3 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.52
   Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.9 m
   Roll period: 10.6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.15
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.37

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a ram bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.500 / 0.511
   Length to Beam Ratio: 9.94 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20.49 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 44 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.20 ft / 1.28 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  15.00 ft / 4.57 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Forward deck:   20.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Aft deck:   45.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Quarter deck:   15.00 %,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m,  10.00 ft / 3.05 m
      - Average freeboard:      10.84 ft / 3.30 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 151.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 84.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 11,823 Square feet or 1,098 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 91 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 65 lbs/sq ft or 317 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.99
      - Longitudinal: 1.00
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Cramped accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

[AnchorSteam]

City Class Cruiser (Generation 2), Unified Netherlands Protected Cruiser laid down 1900

Displacement:
   4,000 t light; 4,167 t standard; 4,865 t normal; 5,423 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (383.00 ft / 383.00 ft) x 43.75 ft x (22.00 / 23.81 ft)
   (116.74 m / 116.74 m) x 13.34 m  x (6.71 / 7.26 m)

Armament:
      6 - 6.00" / 152 mm 45.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1900 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts
     2 x Single mounts on sides, aft deck forward
      6 - 4.00" / 102 mm 45.0 cal guns - 39.99lbs / 18.14kg shells, 150 per gun
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts, 1900 Model
     6 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 840 lbs / 381 kg

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.00" / 25 mm         -         1.00" / 25 mm

   - Protected deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3.00" / 76 mm
   Forecastle: 1.00" / 25 mm  Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1.50" / 38 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 2 shafts, 12,137 ihp / 9,055 Kw = 21.00 kts
   Range 8,000nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1,256 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   290 - 378

Cost:
   £0.474 million / $1.895 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 208 tons, 4.3 %
      - Guns: 208 tons, 4.3 %
   Armour: 553 tons, 11.4 %
      - Armament: 18 tons, 0.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 525 tons, 10.8 %
      - Conning Tower: 9 tons, 0.2 %
   Machinery: 1,876 tons, 38.6 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,310 tons, 26.9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 865 tons, 17.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 53 tons, 1.1 %
      - Hull below water: 16 tons
      - Hull above water: 10 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 27 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     2,784 lbs / 1,263 Kg = 25.8 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 0.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.42
   Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 11.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 74 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.46
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.81

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.462 / 0.476
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8.75 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.57 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 41
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   20.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Forward deck:   15.00 %,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m,  19.00 ft / 5.79 m
      - Aft deck:   49.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Quarter deck:   16.00 %,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m,  12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:      14.45 ft / 4.40 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 139.1 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 96.7 %
   Waterplane Area: 10,794 Square feet or 1,003 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 73 lbs/sq ft or 357 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.13
      - Overall: 1.00
   Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Adequate accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

53 tons Misc. weight total
Hull below water:16 tons
2 tons Bow: 2 18" torpedo tubes
2 tons Stern: 2 18" torpedo tubes
12 tons: 3 reloads per tube
Hull above water: 10 tons
10 tons: Reserve
On Main deck: 27 tons
27 tons: Reserve