Parthian Naval Artillery

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Kaiser Kirk

August 04, 2017, 09:12:25 PM Last Edit: May 16, 2021, 01:44:30 PM by Kaiser Kirk
While a nice formatted table would be lovely, that takes time I will spend at some later date.
The following covers the weapons in service in 1917

Parthian mounts typically feature elevations of -8 to +22

"Maxim","Hotchkiss" and "Gardner" refer to the historic style of weapon

Muzzle energy for <10" are proportional to the comparative bore size of the weapon vs. 10".

Penetrations are expected Belt Pen at 6000m/10000m with ~2crh AP shell, the 1905 version.
This is based off Logi's Ballistics Tool using a belt of 507.5 and deck of 190.
These numbers were used as the basis for Parthian armor schemes.

With the introduction of 1910 Capped Shells, penetration should increase. With the longer, heavier 1915 6crh shells penetration should greatly increase.

The Moderator will likely use something completely difference, but this gives Parthia internal consistency.

The expectation is HE or SAP will be used at ranges where Penetration is not expected. AP will be used when critical hits can reasonably be expected to occur.
This will result in the large secondary batteries volleying HE at longer ranges.

Format is:
Date Bore/Length in Calibers, type firing a shell weight @ MV  Expected Belt Pen at 6000m/10000m with 4crh AP shell.

Historical Weapons
1886  15L74   GardnerTwin MG  0.11kg@610m/s        -/-
          1886 Mount I
          1899 Mount II
1886  7.5L25  Maxim MG            0.01kg@610m/s        -/-
          1886 Mount I
          1899 Mount II
1889   45L40  Hotchkiss QF        1.20kg@700m/s        -/-
          1889 Mount I
          1899 Mount II

Weapons based off 1885 Tech

1889   90L40  BL                       9.75kg@725m/s         -/-
          1889 Mount I
          1889 Mount & Hoist II
          1889 Casement III
          1904 Mount IV
          1904 Mount & Hoist V
1889 120L40  BL                     22.75kg@                    -/-
          1889 Mount I
          1889 Mount & Hoist II
          1889 Casement III
          1904 Mount IV
          1904 Mount & Hoist V
1889 118L20  Howitzer         
          1889 Mount I
1889 180L40  BL                      75.00kg@725m/s
          1889 Mount I
          1889 Mount & Hoist II
          1889 Casement III
          1904 Mount IV
          1904 Mount & Hoist V
1889 240L40  BL                    179.00kg@719m/s     151/102
          1899 Twin Turret I
          1904 Twin Turret II
1889 305L35  BL                    365.00kg@679m/s     201/149
         1899 Twin Turret I
1889 345L35  BL                    530.00kg@713m/s     254/193
          1899 Twin Turret I
          1904 Twin Turret II

1899 Weapons based off 1895 tech. This introduced QF concepts to medium weapons. Improved ROF for larger weapons
1899    7.5L45 Maxim MG          0.01kg@800m/s
          1899 Mount I
          1904 Mount II
1899    23L45  Maxim MG          0.37kg@730m/s
          1899 Mount I
          1904 Mount II
1899    45L45 QF                      1.30kg@725m/s
          1899 Mount I
          1904 Mount II
1899    90L45 QF                    10.00kg@830m/s
          1899 Mount I
          1899 Mount & Hoist II
          1899 Casement III
          1904 Mount IV
          1904 Mount & Hoist V
1899  120L45 QF                    24.00kg@825m/s
          1899 Mount I
          1899 Mount & Hoist II
          1899 Casement III
          1904 Mount IV
          1904 Mount & Hoist V
          1904 Casement IV
1899  165L45 QF                    63.00kg@825m/s
          1899 Mount I
          1899 Mount & Hoist II
          1899 Casement III
          1904 Mount IV
          1904 Mount & Hoist V
          1904 Casement IV
1899  180L45 BL                    80.00kg@825m/s     135/83
          1899 Mount I
          1899 Mount & Hoist II
          1899 Casement III
          1904 Mount IV
          1904 Mount & Hoist V
1899  240L45 BL                  180.00kg@839m/s     207/141
          1899 Twin turret I
          1909 Twin turret II
1899  300L45 BL                  375.00kg@840m/s     306/229
          1899 Twin turret I
          1909 Twin turret II
1900 tech, 1904 Series of Weapons.  New mount designs to allow continuous aim.
1904    60L50 QF                      3.20kg@820m/s
          1904 Mount
          1904 Casement
1904  255L50 BL                   243.00kg@830m/s   267/193
          1904 Twin turret I
          1904 Twin  turret II Two competing turret designs created and tested.
1904  345L40 BL                   545.00kg@805m/s   337/258
          1904 Twin  turret mkI
          1904 Twin  turret  mkII : Two competing turret designs created and tested.

1904  New Mount for 45L45, 7.5mm MG, 23mm MG, 90L45, 120L45, 165L45, 180L45
1904  New Mount & Hoist for 90L45, 120L45, 165L45, 180L45

1905 tech, 1909 Series of Weapons
1909  New Mk II twin turrets for    240L40, 240L45, 300L45, 345L35
1909  345L45 BL                  573.00kg@831m/s   385/299  (not used)
          1909 Twin Turret Mk I
          1909 Triple Turret Mk II
1909  365L40 BL                  645.00kg@824m/s   454/364
          1909 Twin Turret Mk I
          1909 Triple Turret Mk II
          1909 Triple Turret Mk III Two competing triple turret designs created and tested.
1910  90L50 AA                   11kg @ 850m/s
          1910 Casement
          1910 AA Mount Mk I
          1910 AA Mount & Hoist
          1910 AA Mount Mk II

New guns, mountings need to be specified.
1912  120L43 QF                 25kg@850m/s
1912  180L43                      85kg@850m/s
1912  230L44                    178kg@855m/s
1912  300L41.5                 395kg@807m/s


Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

#1
May 26, 2019, 07:53:58 PM Last Edit: January 15, 2021, 09:14:58 PM by Kaiser Kirk
1910 Capped Shells
technology available 1913.0

With the advent of 1910 shells, the penetration of Parthian guns is expected to increase 10-20%

For modeling purposes, Logi's Ballistic's tool will be used. The Default belt/deck pen numbers will be adjusted to meet Nav Weaps.
The USN 14" mark 8 shell penetration numbers will be used. These occur on both the 14"/45" entries for the USN on Nav Weaps.
The Belt numbers will come from the mk 1,2,3,5 guns, and the Deck from the 8,9,10, 12.
The alternative is to use interwar RN 15"/42.

Belt: 470 :  regularized for belt @ 12,000yds, giving a value of about 470 for Logi's Ballistic's tool
Deck : 270 : regularized for deck @24,500yrds (about max visibility of masts)


               Naval Artillery of Parthia as of 1915                        
                1910 Capped Shells  (470/270)                        
               Armor piecing performance                        
                   3000m      6000m      10000m      14000m   
Tech level   Introduced   Gun   Shell   MV   Splinter Pen   Belt   Deck   Belt   Deck   Belt   Deck   Belt    Deck
1910   1915   365L45   675   859   61   618   1   515   4   404   13   320   28
1905   1909   365L40   645   824   61   539   1   445   5   346   13   305   20
1905   1909   345L45   573   831   58   545   1   449   4   348   13   308   20
1900   1904   345L40   545   805   58   481   1   393   5   301   14   264   21
1885   1889   345L35   530   713   58   365   1   296   6   225   17   172   37
1885   1889   305L35   365   679   51   283   1   223   6   163   17   121   38
1895   1899   300L45   375   840   51   467   1   374   4   279   12   211   26
1905   1912   300L41   395   807   51   459   1   372   4   281   13   215   29
1900   1904   255L40   243   830   43   399   1   311   4   225   11   165   25
1895   1899   240L45   180   839   40   325   1   241   3   164   10   113   22
1885   1889   240L40   179   719   40   237   1   176   4   119   13   82   30
1905   1912   230L44   178   855   38   371   1   281   3   196   10   139   22
1895   1899   180L45   80   825   30   229   1   158   3   97   8   61   21
1905   1912   180L43   85   850   30   264   1   186   3   117   9   76   20
1885   1889   180L40   75   725   30   162   1   108   3   65   11   40   28
1895   1899   165L45   63   825   28   209   1   140   3   84   9   51   21
1905   1914   165L43   65   850   28   232   1   158   2   95   8   59   20
1910   1914   130L50   32   900   22   187   0   115   2   61   7   34   18
1895   1899   120L45   24   825   20   129   0   74   2   36   8   19   21
1905   1912   120L43   25   850   20   146   0   86   2   43   7   23   20
1905   1910   90L50   11   850   15   98   0   50   2   21   7   9   22
1895   1899   90L45   10   830   15   80   0   38   2   15   8   6   24
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

#2
November 22, 2023, 11:45:41 AM
As of HY1, 1928


                     Most Recent Turret or Mount Design                  Wirblewind               *= Power Assist      
Note : Frequently for new guns, 2 Turret Designs, one 'Free' one 'Paid' are done. The best is used.                                  Turret   Turret   M&H   M&H   M&H   Deck Mount   Turret   M&H   Deck Mount   Casement
Naval Artillery   Shell (KG)   MV   Design Year   Tech Year      Quad:      4-gun   Quad:   Pair of Twins   Quad    Triple :    3-gun   Triple   Twin :     2-Gun   Twin   Quad :      2 Row   Twin :     2-Gun   Twin   Twin   single   single   single   single
                                                            
435L43   1115   769   1927   1925                                                
                                                            
                                                            
435L43   1115   740   1924   1920                                                
390L46   879   765   1923   1915                                                
365L50   780   800   1918   1915      2x1920   2x 1918      1919      1920                           
365L45   675   859   1915   1910         2x1913      1913      1913                           
365L40   645   824   1909   1905               2x 1909   1909   1909                           
345L45   573   831   1909   1905               1909       1909                            
345L40   545   805   1904   1900                        2x 1904                        
345L35   530   713   1889   1885                        1904                        
333L43   605   792   1920   1915      2x 1920         1921                                 
305L35   365   679   1889   1885                        1909                        
305L40   375   840   1899   1895                        1909                        
300L41.5   395   807   1912   1905                        1912                        
255L50   243   830   1904   1900                        2x 1904                        
255L47   272   824   1917   1915          2x 1917      1919      1918   1920                        
240L45   180   839   1899   1895                        1909                        
240L40   179   719   1889   1885                        1909                        
230L44   178   855   1912   1905                        2x 1912               1912         
180L47   90   816   1921   1915               2x 1921      1921         1921*            1921*   1921   1921
180L45   80   825   1899   1895                        1899                  1904   1904   1899
180L43   85   850   1912   1905                     1912                     1921 *   1912   1912
180L40   75   725   1889   1885                                          1904   1904   1889
165L45   63   825   1899   1895                        1899                  1904   1904   1904
165L43   65   850   1912   1910                     1918   1912               1919   1912 *   1912   1912
163L20   70      1922   1+15                                                
130L50   32   900   1914   1910                              1918            1914   1914   1914
120L45   24   825   1899   1895                                          1904   1904   1904
120L43   25   850   1912   1905                              1918   1912         1912   1912   1912
120L40   22.75      1889   1885                                           1904   1904   1889
118L21 QF HOW   27      1922   1915                              1922             1922   1922   
118L20 HOW   20      1889   1885                                             1889   
90L50   11   850   1910   1905                              1918 AA            2x '10AA,'22AS   2x '10AA,'22AS   1910
90L45   10   830   1899   1895                                          1922   1922   1899
90L40 BL   9.75   725   1889   1885                                          1904   1904   1889
60L50 Hotchkiss   3.2      1904   1895                                          1904   1904   1904
57L60AA   3      1919   1915                              2x1919AA            19AA   19AA / 22AS   1919
45L45 Hotchkiss   1.3      1899   1895                                          1899   1899   1899
45L40 Hotchkiss   1.2   700   1889   1885                                          1899   1899   1899
23L45 Maxim   0.37   730   1899   1895                                          1904   1904   1904
15L70 GAST   0.05   1000   1918   1915                           1918 AA         1918      1918   1918   1918
15L74 Gardner   0.05      1886   1885                                     1899              1899
10.7L60 Caldwell   0.026 jeffery   709   1907   1905                                          1907   1907   1907
7.5L150  St. Etienne    0.0097 GP90/23   860   1907   1905      1920                                    1907   1907   1907
7.5L45 Maxim   0.01   800   1899   1885                                          1899   1904   1899
7.5L25 Maxim   0.01   610   1886   1880                                          1886   1899   1886
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

#3
February 24, 2024, 05:07:36 PM
Beginning 1931


                     Most Recent Turret or Mount Design                  Wirblewind               *= Power Assist      
Note : Frequently for new guns, 2 Turret Designs, one 'Free' one 'Paid' are done. The best is used.                                  Turret   Turret   M&H   M&H   M&H   Deck Mount   Turret   M&H   Deck Mount   Casement
Naval Artillery   Shell (KG)   MV   Design Year   Tech Year      Quad:      4-gun   Quad:   Pair of Twins   Quad    Triple :    3-gun   Triple   Twin :     2-Gun   Twin   Quad :      2 Row   Twin :     2-Gun   Twin   Twin   single   single   single   single
                                                            
435L47   1115   769   1928   1925      4x 1928          1928       1928                            
435L43   1115       1927   1925      2x 1927      1927   1927   1927      1927                        
435L43   1115   740   1924   1920      2x 1924         1924                                 
390L46   879      1927   1925      1927         1927      1927                           
390L46   879   765   1923   1915      2x1923         1923   1923   1923   1923                        
365L50   780       1927   1925      1927         1927      1927                           
365L50   780   800   1918   1915      2x1920   2x 1918      1919      1920                           
365L45   675   0   1927   1925      1927         1927      1927                           
365L45   675   859   1915   1910         2x1913      1913      1913                            
365L40   645      1927   1925               1927                                 
365L40   645   824   1909   1905               2x 1909   1909   1909                            
345L45   573   831   1909   1905               1909       1909                             
345L40   545   805   1904   1900                        2x 1904                        
345L35   530   713   1889   1885                        1904                        
333L43   605       1927   1925                     1927                           
333L43   605   792   1920   1915      2x 1920         1921                                 
305L35   365   679   1889   1885                        1909                        
305L40   375   840   1899   1895                        1909                        
300L41.5   395   807   1912   1905                        1912                        
255L50   243   830   1904   1900                        2x 1904                        
255L47   272       1927   1925      1927                                          
255L47   272   824   1917   1915          2x 1917      1919      1918   1920                        
240L45   180   839   1899   1895                        1909                        
240L40   179   719   1889   1885                        1909                        
230L44   178   855   1912   1905                        2x 1912               1912         
215L47   180      1929   1925      1929         1929      1929                           
180L47   85   816   1929   1925      1928         1928      1928         1929*                  
180L47   85   816   1921   1915               2x 1921      1921         1921*            1921*   1921   1921
180L45   80   825   1899   1895                        1899                  1904   1904   1899
180L43   85   850   1912   1905                      1912                     1921 *   1912   1912
180L40   75   725   1889   1885                                           1904   1904   1889
165L55   80      1929   1925                1929               1929*            1930 HALA*   1930 HALA*   1930 HALA*
165L45   63   825   1899   1895                         1899                  1904   1904   1904
165L43   65   850   1912   1910                      1918   1912      1912         1919   1912* , 30HALA*   1912   1912
163L20   70      1928   1925                       1928         1928            1928   1928   1928
163L20   70      1922   1915                                                  
130L50   32   900   1914   1910                               1918, 30HALA            1914, 30HALA   1914   1914, 30HALA
130L47   39      1929   1925                               1930 AS, HALA            1930 HALA   1930 HALA   1930 HALA
120L47   25      1929   1925                               1930 AS, HALA            1930 HALA   1930 HALA   1930 HALA
120L45   24   825   1899   1895                                          1904   1904   1904
120L43   25   850   1912   1905                               1918, 30HALA   1912         1912, 30HALA   1912   1912, 30HALA
120L40   22.75      1889   1885                                            1904   1904   1889
118L21 QF HOW   27      1928   1925                              1928         1928      1928   
118L21 QF HOW   27      1922   1915                               1922             1922   1922   
118L20 HOW   20      1889   1885                                              1889   
115L47   25      1929   1925                               1930 AS, HALA            1930 HALA   1930 HALA   1930 HALA
90L54   11      1927   1925                               2x 1928 AA, 30 HALA            1928, 30HALA   1928, 30HALA   1928, 30HALA
90L50   11   850   1910   1905                               1918 AA, 30HALA            2x 10AA,22AS, 30HALA   2x 10AA,22AS, 30HALA   1910, 30HALA
90L45   10   830   1899   1895                                            1922   1922   1899
90L40 BL   9.75   725   1889   1885                                            1904   1904   1889
60L60   3.9      1930   1925                                          1930 HALA   1930 HALA   1930 HALA
60L50 Hotchkiss   3.2      1904   1895                                           1904   1904   1904
57L60AA   3      1927   1925                              1927 AA            27 AA, 30HALA   1927 AA   1927 AA
57L60AA   3      1919   1915                               2x1919AA            19AA   19AA / 22AS   1919
45L60   1.66      1930   1925                                          1930 HALA   1930 HALA   1930 HALA
45L45 Hotchkiss   1.3      1899   1895                                          1899   1899   1899
45L40 Hotchkiss   1.2   700   1889   1885                                          1899   1899   1899
37L70 AA         1927   1925                           1927 AA   1927 AA            27 AA, 30HALA   1927 AA   1927 AA
30L80 AA         1927   1925                           1927 AA   1927 AA            27 AA, 30HALA   1927 AA   1927 AA
23L90 GAST AA   0.37      1927   1925                           1927 AA      1927 AA   27 AA, 30HALA            
23L45 Maxim   0.37   730   1899   1895                                          1904   1904   1904
15L120  AA GAST   0.05   1000   1927   1925                            1927 AA      1927 AA   1927 AA             
15L70 GAST   0.05   1000   1918   1915                           1918 AA         1918      1918   1918   1918
15L74 Gardner   0.05      1886   1885                                     1899              1899
10.7L60 Caldwell   0.026 jeffery   709   1907   1905                                          1907   1907   1907
7.5L150  St. Etienne    0.0097 GP90/23   860   1907   1905                                          1907   1907   1907
7.5L45 Maxim   0.01   800   1899   1885                                          1899   1904   1899
7.5L25 Maxim   0.01   610   1886   1880                                          1886   1899   1886
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            

Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

#4
March 22, 2024, 07:28:57 PM
1931
 
Include new guns researched from 1925 Naval Artillery Tech battleship mounts.
and the HA/LA mountings from the 1926 Capital Ship Tech.



Most Recent Turret or Mount Design   Wirblewind   *= Power Assist   
Note : Frequently for new guns, 2 Turret Designs, one 'Free' one 'Paid' are done. The best is used.                                  Turret   Turret   M&H   M&H   M&H   Deck Mount   Turret   M&H   Deck Mount   Casement
Naval Artillery   Shell (KG)   MV   Design Year   Tech Year      Quad:      4-gun   Quad:   Pair of Twins   Quad    Triple :    3-gun   Triple   Twin :     2-Gun   Twin   Quad :      2 Row   Twin :     2-Gun   Twin   Twin   single   single   single   single
                                                            
435L47   1115   764   1928   1925      4x 1928          1928       1928                            
435L43   1115   729   1927   1925      2x 1927      1927   1927   1927      1927                        
435L43   1115   729   1924   1920      2x 1924         1924                                 
390L46   879   761   1927   1925      1927         1927      1927                           
390L46   879   765   1923   1915      2x1923         1923   1923   1923   1923                        
365L50   780   842   1927   1925      1927         1927      1927                           
365L50   780   800   1918   1915      2x1920   2x 1918      1919      1920                           
365L45   675   859   1927   1925      1927         1927      1927                           
365L45   675   859   1915   1910         2x1913      1913      1913                            
365L40   645   825   1927   1925               1927                                 
365L40   645   825   1909   1905               2x 1909   1909   1909                            
345L45   573   831   1909   1905               1909       1909                             
345L40   545   805   1904   1900                        2x 1904                        
345L35   530   713   1889   1885                        1904                        
333L43   605   794   1927   1925                     1927                           
333L43   605   792   1920   1915      2x 1920         1921                                 
305L35   365   679   1889   1885                        1909                        
305L40   375   840   1899   1895                        1909                        
300L41.5   395   807   1912   1905                        1912                        
255L50   243   830   1904   1900                        2x 1904                        
255L47   272   824   1927   1925      1927                                          
255L47   272   824   1917   1915          2x 1917      1919      1918   1920                        
240L45   180   839   1899   1895                        1909                        
240L40   179   719   1889   1885                        1909                        
230L44   178   855   1912   1905                        2x 1912               1912         
215L47   175   760   1929   1925      1929         1929      1929                           
180L47   85   835   1929   1925      1928         1928      1928         1929*                  
180L47   85   835   1921   1915               2x 1921      1921         1921*            1921*   1921   1921
180L45   80   825   1899   1895                        1899                  1904   1904   1899
180L43   85   799   1912   1905                      1912                     1921 *   1912   1912
180L40   75   725   1889   1885                                           1904   1904   1889
165L55   80   851   1929   1925                1929               1929*            1930 HALA*   1930 HALA*   1930 HALA*
165L45   63   825   1899   1895                         1899                  1904   1904   1904
165L43   65   850   1912   1910                      1918   1912      1912         1919   1912* , 30HALA*   1912   1912
163L20   70   419   1928   1925                       1928         1928            1928   1928   1928
163L20   70   419   1922   1915                                                  
130L50   32   900   1914   1910                               1918, 30HALA            1914, 30HALA   1914   1914, 30HALA
130L47   39   757   1929   1925                               1930 AS, HALA            1930 HALA   1930 HALA   1930 HALA
120L47   25   839   1929   1925                               1930 AS, HALA            1930 HALA   1930 HALA   1930 HALA
120L45   24   825   1899   1895                                          1904   1904   1904
120L43   25   850   1912   1905                               1918, 30HALA   1912         1912, 30HALA   1912   1912, 30HALA
120L40   22.75   639   1889   1885                                            1904   1904   1889
118L21 QF HOW   27   426   1928   1925                              1928         1928      1928   
118L21 QF HOW   27   426   1922   1915                               1922             1922   1922   
118L20 HOW   20   483   1889   1885                                              1889   
115L47   25   787   1929   1925                               1930 AS, HALA            1930 HALA   1930 HALA   1930 HALA
90L54   11   916   1927   1925                               2x 1928 AA, 30 HALA            1928, 30HALA   1928, 30HALA   1928, 30HALA
90L50   11   850   1910   1905                               1918 AA, 30HALA            2x 10AA,22AS, 30HALA   2x 10AA,22AS, 30HALA   1910, 30HALA
90L45   10   830   1899   1895                                            1922   1922   1899
90L40 BL   9.75   725   1889   1885                                            1904   1904   1889
60L60   3.9   894   1930   1925                                          1930 HALA   1930 HALA   1930 HALA
60L50 Hotchkiss   3.2   855   1904   1895                                           1904   1904   1904
57L60AA   3   944   1927   1925                              1927 AA            27 AA, 30HALA   1927 AA   1927 AA
57L60AA   3   944   1919   1915                               2x1919AA            19AA   19AA / 22AS   1919
45L60   1.66   890   1930   1925                                          1930 HALA   1930 HALA   1930 HALA
45L45 Hotchkiss   1.3   784   1899   1895                                          1899   1899   1899
45L40 Hotchkiss   1.2   656   1889   1885                                          1899   1899   1899
37L70 AA   0.81   1026   1927   1925                           1927 AA   1927 AA            27 AA, 30HALA   1927 AA   1927 AA
30L80 AA   0.43   1099   1927   1925                           1927 AA   1927 AA            27 AA, 30HALA   1927 AA   1927 AA
23L90 GAST AA   0.37   1148   1927   1925                           1927 AA      1927 AA   27 AA, 30HALA            
23L45 Maxim   0.37   730   1899   1895                                          1904   1904   1904
15L120  AA GAST   0.05   1000   1927   1925                            1927 AA      1927 AA   1927 AA             
15L70 GAST   0.05   1000   1918   1915                           1918 AA         1918      1918   1918   1918
15L74 Gardner   0.05   1096   1886   1885                                     1899              1899
10.7L60 Caldwell   0.026 jeffery   709   1907   1905                                          1907   1907   1907
7.5L150  St. Etienne    0.0097 GP90/23   860   1907   1905                                          1907   1907   1907
7.5L45 Maxim   0.01   800   1899   1885                                          1899   1904   1899
7.5L25 Maxim   0.01   610   1886   1880                                          1886   1899   1886
                                                            
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest
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