Byzantine Empire 1936 - 1940

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Jefgte

Update BC9-45500t-3T3x457, always compact hull, with better armor.

BC11, Byzantine Empire BC11 laid down 1938

Displacement:
    48 000 t light; 51 220 t standard; 54 159 t normal; 56 510 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (738,21 ft / 735,56 ft) x 122,54 ft x (32,45 / 33,65 ft)
    (225,00 m / 224,20 m) x 37,35 m  x (9,89 / 10,26 m)

Armament:
      9 - 17,99" / 457 mm 40,0 cal guns - 3 320,01lbs / 1 505,93kg shells, 100 per gun
      Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1938 Model
      3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
        1 raised mount - superfiring
      20 - 5,24" / 133 mm 50,0 cal guns - 80,01lbs / 36,29kg shells, 340 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1938 Model
      10 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        4 raised mounts
      36 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
      18 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        18 raised mounts
      36 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
      18 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        18 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 31 555 lbs / 14 313 kg

Armour:
  - Belts:        Width (max)    Length (avg)        Height (avg)
    Main:    14,2" / 360 mm    485,47 ft / 147,97 m    14,90 ft / 4,54 m
    Ends:    3,94" / 100 mm    250,07 ft / 76,22 m    9,97 ft / 3,04 m
    Upper:    3,94" / 100 mm    485,47 ft / 147,97 m    8,01 ft / 2,44 m
      Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
        1,97" / 50 mm    485,47 ft / 147,97 m    30,77 ft / 9,38 m
    Beam between torpedo bulkheads 93,01 ft / 28,35 m

  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    Main:    15,7" / 400 mm    7,87" / 200 mm        14,2" / 360 mm
    3rd:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    4th:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    5th:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -

  - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
    For and Aft decks: 7,09" / 180 mm
    Forecastle: 3,94" / 100 mm  Quarter deck: 5,51" / 140 mm

  - Conning towers: Forward 14,17" / 360 mm, Aft 5,91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Direct drive, 4 shafts, 128 014 shp / 95 498 Kw = 27,00 kts
    Range 14 000nm at 12,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 5 290 tons

Complement:
    1 774 - 2 307

Cost:
    £24,891 million / $99,564 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 4 693 tons, 8,7 %
      - Guns: 4 693 tons, 8,7 %
    Armour: 19 908 tons, 36,8 %
      - Belts: 5 575 tons, 10,3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1 088 tons, 2,0 %
      - Armament: 4 038 tons, 7,5 %
      - Armour Deck: 8 587 tons, 15,9 %
      - Conning Towers: 619 tons, 1,1 %
    Machinery: 3 505 tons, 6,5 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 18 820 tons, 34,8 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6 159 tons, 11,4 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 1 074 tons, 2,0 %
      - Hull below water: 240 tons
      - Hull above water: 25 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 260 tons
      - Above deck: 549 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      82 049 lbs / 37 217 Kg = 28,2 x 18,0 " / 457 mm shells or 14,5 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
    Metacentric height 8,1 ft / 2,5 m
    Roll period: 18,1 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,74
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,04

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has a flush deck,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,648 / 0,652
    Length to Beam Ratio: 6,00 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 27,12 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    17,50 %,  30,18 ft / 9,20 m,  25,26 ft / 7,70 m
      - Forward deck:    33,00 %,  25,26 ft / 7,70 m,  20,34 ft / 6,20 m
      - Aft deck:    33,00 %,  20,34 ft / 6,20 m,  19,36 ft / 5,90 m
      - Quarter deck:    16,50 %,  19,36 ft / 5,90 m,  19,36 ft / 5,90 m
      - Average freeboard:        22,03 ft / 6,72 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80,5 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 157,1 %
    Waterplane Area: 68 923 Square feet or 6 403 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 245 lbs/sq ft or 1 197 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,95
        - Longitudinal: 1,47
        - Overall: 1,00
    Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
469t for Top fire control
50t for 2x25t Marconi
30t for Hulesmeyer
OD
30t for 1 scoutplanes + cata
40t for night fighting
100t for Admiral ship
90t reserved
AW
climatisation
25t for enhanced hydrophone
BW
240t for extra pumps installation
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Kaiser Kirk

I looked at battlewagons in that size range, almost went with the 45,000t 8x435mm.
Adds 2 HY to the build time, but average cost is slightly less to go to 54,000.

How is the 180mm multiple decks arranged?
I see an 100mm upper belt, is there a 40mm splinter deck over 140mm main deck arrangement?

You have large amounts of misc weight, as we all do these days.

Curious such a big ship has 1 AC, and 30t instead of 25?
Likewise, Enhanced Hydrophones are 15tons.

As typical you allocated a tremendous amount to pumps in addition to the standard ones.

Ironically, I try to keep draft below the Real-life WWII limit for Suez, despite Snip eliminating that, and Parthian warships not expecting to rely on Suez. So there is no reason for me to stick at 9.6 so often.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Jefgte

#62
Quote...How is the 180mm multiple decks arranged?
I see an 100mm upper belt, is there a 40mm splinter deck over 140mm main deck arrangement?...


        100-40-40-40-40 splinter/decaping deck
        100
        100
        360-140-140-140 armored deck
WL__360
        360
        200
        100
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#63
Improvement of Mlle 1935's CV.
25,000t => 27,000t

CV  mlle 1938, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-70 aircrafts laid down 1938

Displacement:
    27 000 t light; 27 987 t standard; 31 016 t normal; 33 439 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (738,04 ft / 734,91 ft) x 100,62 ft x (27,44 / 29,11 ft)
    (224,96 m / 224,00 m) x 30,67 m  x (8,36 / 8,87 m)

Armament:
      16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
      8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
        8 raised mounts
      40 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
      20 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        12 raised mounts
      24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
      12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        12 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1 010 lbs / 458 kg

Armour:
  - Belts:        Width (max)    Length (avg)        Height (avg)
    Main:    3,15" / 80 mm    507,09 ft / 154,56 m    13,91 ft / 4,24 m
    Ends:    1,38" / 35 mm    227,79 ft / 69,43 m    10,63 ft / 3,24 m
    Upper:    1,38" / 35 mm    507,09 ft / 154,56 m    8,01 ft / 2,44 m
      Main Belt covers 106 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
        1,97" / 50 mm    507,09 ft / 154,56 m    24,67 ft / 7,52 m
    Beam between torpedo bulkheads 74,38 ft / 22,67 m

  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    2nd:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    3rd:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -
    4th:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -

  - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
    For and Aft decks: 4,33" / 110 mm
    Forecastle: 1,38" / 35 mm  Quarter deck: 1,38" / 35 mm

  - Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 4 shafts, 128 015 shp / 95 499 Kw = 30,00 kts
    Range 15 000nm at 14,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 5 451 tons

Complement:
    1 168 - 1 519

Cost:
    £8,316 million / $33,263 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 156 tons, 0,5 %
      - Guns: 156 tons, 0,5 %
    Armour: 5 910 tons, 19,1 %
      - Belts: 1 294 tons, 4,2 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 911 tons, 2,9 %
      - Armament: 18 tons, 0,1 %
      - Armour Deck: 3 662 tons, 11,8 %
      - Conning Tower: 25 tons, 0,1 %
    Machinery: 3 505 tons, 11,3 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 9 773 tons, 31,5 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4 016 tons, 12,9 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 7 655 tons, 24,7 %
      - Hull below water: 3 865 tons
      - Hull above water: 3 555 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 170 tons
      - Above deck: 65 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      78 437 lbs / 35 578 Kg = 726,3 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 10,9 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,38
    Metacentric height 8,9 ft / 2,7 m
    Roll period: 14,2 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,05
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has low forecastle,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,535 / 0,544
    Length to Beam Ratio: 7,30 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 27,11 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    16,00 %,  29,82 ft / 9,09 m,  24,41 ft / 7,44 m
      - Forward deck:    34,50 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Aft deck:    34,50 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Quarter deck:    15,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Average freeboard:        37,32 ft / 11,38 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 89,2 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 326,7 %
    Waterplane Area: 50 889 Square feet or 4 728 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 148 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 130 lbs/sq ft or 635 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,90
        - Longitudinal: 2,57
        - Overall: 1,00
    Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
    Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight: 6980t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
15t for 1930 fire control
25t for Hulsmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
50t for Fire Fighting
100t for Admiral staff
HAW
3325t for 35 aircrafts-1934
70t for enhanced climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
40t for aircrafts spare parts
40t reserved for materials
HBW
3325t for 35 aircrafts-1934
70t for enhanced ventilation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
40t for aircrafts spares parts
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
40t reserved for  material...
200t for additionnal pumps

Like all large vessels, the CVs are equipped with a reinforced drainage circuit and additional pumps.
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

Update the 48000t BB to 47500t& 9,6m draught
Multiple decks 175mm was 180mm


BBC11 - BC12, Byzantine Empire BC laid down 1938

Displacement:
   47 500 t light; 50 577 t standard; 53 509 t normal; 55 854 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (738,20 ft / 736,09 ft) x 124,67 ft x (31,49 / 32,66 ft)
   (225,00 m / 224,36 m) x 38,00 m  x (9,60 / 9,96 m)

Armament:
      9 - 17,99" / 457 mm 40,0 cal guns - 3 320,01lbs / 1 505,93kg shells, 100 per gun
     Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1938 Model
     3 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, majority forward
      1 raised mount - superfiring
      16 - 5,24" / 133 mm 50,0 cal guns - 80,01lbs / 36,29kg shells, 300 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1938 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      28 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
     14 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      12 raised mounts
      24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
     12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 31 218 lbs / 14 160 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   14,2" / 360 mm   478,44 ft / 145,83 m   13,58 ft / 4,14 m
   Ends:   3,94" / 100 mm   257,61 ft / 78,52 m   12,60 ft / 3,84 m
   Upper:   3,94" / 100 mm   478,44 ft / 145,83 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,97" / 50 mm   478,44 ft / 145,83 m   30,22 ft / 9,21 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 98,56 ft / 30,04 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   15,0" / 380 mm   6,89" / 175 mm      14,2" / 360 mm
   2nd:   1,18" / 30 mm   0,79" / 20 mm      0,79" / 20 mm
   4th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   5th:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 6,89" / 175 mm
   Forecastle: 3,94" / 100 mm  Quarter deck: 5,51" / 140 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 14,17" / 360 mm, Aft 5,91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 127 725 shp / 95 283 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 14 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5 277 tons

Complement:
   1 758 - 2 286

Cost:
   £24,599 million / $98,395 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 4 592 tons, 8,6 %
      - Guns: 4 592 tons, 8,6 %
   Armour: 19 333 tons, 36,1 %
      - Belts: 5 246 tons, 9,8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 1 053 tons, 2,0 %
      - Armament: 3 903 tons, 7,3 %
      - Armour Deck: 8 517 tons, 15,9 %
      - Conning Towers: 614 tons, 1,1 %
   Machinery: 3 497 tons, 6,5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 19 019 tons, 35,5 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 6 009 tons, 11,2 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 1 059 tons, 2,0 %
      - Hull below water: 230 tons
      - Hull above water: 25 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 270 tons
      - Above deck: 534 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     82 606 lbs / 37 469 Kg = 28,4 x 18,0 " / 457 mm shells or 14,8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,12
   Metacentric height 8,7 ft / 2,6 m
   Roll period: 17,8 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,66
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,648 / 0,652
   Length to Beam Ratio: 5,90 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27,13 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 69
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 4,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  30,18 ft / 9,20 m,  24,61 ft / 7,50 m
      - Forward deck:   32,50 %,  24,61 ft / 7,50 m,  19,52 ft / 5,95 m
      - Aft deck:   32,50 %,  19,52 ft / 5,95 m,  19,52 ft / 5,95 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,50 %,  19,52 ft / 5,95 m,  19,52 ft / 5,95 m
      - Average freeboard:      21,63 ft / 6,59 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77,2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 157,4 %
   Waterplane Area: 70 172 Square feet or 6 519 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 246 lbs/sq ft or 1 199 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,96
      - Longitudinal: 1,43
      - Overall: 1,00
   Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
459t for Top fire control
50t for 2x25t Marconi
25t for Hulesmeyer
OD
50t for 2 scoutplanes + cata
40t for night fighting
100t for admiral ship
80 reserved
AW
Climatisation
25t for enhanced hydrophone
BW
230t for extra pumps installation
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

CV1938, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-72 aircrafts laid down 1938

Displacement:
   26 750 t light; 27 729 t standard; 30 555 t normal; 32 817 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (770,85 ft / 767,72 ft) x 98,43 ft x (26,96 / 28,49 ft)
   (234,96 m / 234,00 m) x 30,00 m  x (8,22 / 8,69 m)

Armament:
      16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1938 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      40 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
     20 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
     12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1 010 lbs / 458 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,15" / 80 mm   506,69 ft / 154,44 m   11,91 ft / 3,63 m
   Ends:   1,18" / 30 mm   260,99 ft / 79,55 m   11,91 ft / 3,63 m
   Upper:   1,18" / 30 mm   506,69 ft / 154,44 m   8,01 ft / 2,44 m
     Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length

   - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
      1,97" / 50 mm   506,69 ft / 154,44 m   24,31 ft / 7,41 m
   Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72,18 ft / 22,00 m

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   2nd:   0,98" / 25 mm   0,59" / 15 mm      0,59" / 15 mm
   3rd:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
   For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
   Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 123 360 shp / 92 027 Kw = 30,00 kts
   Range 14 000nm at 14,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 5 088 tons

Complement:
   1 155 - 1 502

Cost:
   £8,363 million / $33,452 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 230 tons, 0,8 %
      - Guns: 230 tons, 0,8 %
   Armour: 5 380 tons, 17,6 %
      - Belts: 1 138 tons, 3,7 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 897 tons, 2,9 %
      - Armament: 49 tons, 0,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 3 271 tons, 10,7 %
      - Conning Tower: 25 tons, 0,1 %
   Machinery: 3 378 tons, 11,1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 10 090 tons, 33,0 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 806 tons, 12,5 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 7 671 tons, 25,1 %
      - Hull below water: 3 880 tons
      - Hull above water: 3 655 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 70 tons
      - Above deck: 66 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     75 731 lbs / 34 351 Kg = 701,2 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 10,3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,32
   Metacentric height 8,0 ft / 2,4 m
   Roll period: 14,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,09
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,525 / 0,533
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7,80 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 27,71 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   14,00 %,  29,82 ft / 9,09 m,  24,41 ft / 7,44 m
      - Forward deck:   34,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Aft deck:   32,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Quarter deck:   20,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Average freeboard:      37,58 ft / 11,45 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91,2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 334,2 %
   Waterplane Area: 51 518 Square feet or 4 786 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 149 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 130 lbs/sq ft or 632 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,90
      - Longitudinal: 2,52
      - Overall: 1,00
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight: 6980t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
16t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulsmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
50t for Fire Fighting
HAW
3420t for 36 aircrafts-1934
70t for enhanced climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
45t for aircrafts spare parts
40t reserved for materials
HBW
3420t for 36 aircrafts-1934
70t for enhanced ventilation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
45t for aircrafts spares parts
240t for additionnal pumps
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
40t reserved for  material...

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#66
Removal of the upper 30mm splinter belt.
Presence of this armor would confine a possible explosion to the hangar.

CV1938, Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier-72 aircrafts laid down 1938

Displacement:
    26 500 t light; 27 473 t standard; 30 286 t normal; 32 537 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (770,85 ft / 767,72 ft) x 98,43 ft x (26,72 / 28,25 ft)
    (234,96 m / 234,00 m) x 30,00 m  x (8,14 / 8,61 m)

Armament:
      16 - 4,49" / 114 mm 45,0 cal guns - 58,00lbs / 26,31kg shells, 350 per gun
      Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1938 Model
      8 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
      40 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
      20 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      24 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
      12 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      Weight of broadside 1 010 lbs / 458 kg

Armour:
  - Belts:        Width (max)    Length (avg)        Height (avg)
    Main:    3,15" / 80 mm    506,69 ft / 154,44 m    11,94 ft / 3,64 m
    Ends:    1,18" / 30 mm    260,99 ft / 79,55 m    11,61 ft / 3,54 m
      Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length

  - Torpedo Bulkhead - Strengthened structural bulkheads:
        1,97" / 50 mm    506,69 ft / 154,44 m    24,08 ft / 7,34 m
    Beam between torpedo bulkheads 72,18 ft / 22,00 m

  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    2nd:    0,98" / 25 mm    0,59" / 15 mm        0,59" / 15 mm
    3rd:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -
    4th:    0,24" / 6 mm          -                  -

  - Armoured deck - multiple decks:
    For and Aft decks: 3,94" / 100 mm
    Forecastle: 1,18" / 30 mm  Quarter deck: 1,18" / 30 mm

  - Conning towers: Forward 1,18" / 30 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 2 shafts, 122 742 shp / 91 566 Kw = 30,00 kts
    Range 14 000nm at 14,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 5 064 tons

Complement:
    1 147 - 1 492

Cost:
    £8,300 million / $33,201 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 230 tons, 0,8 %
      - Guns: 230 tons, 0,8 %
    Armour: 5 169 tons, 17,1 %
      - Belts: 935 tons, 3,1 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 889 tons, 2,9 %
      - Armament: 49 tons, 0,2 %
      - Armour Deck: 3 271 tons, 10,8 %
      - Conning Tower: 25 tons, 0,1 %
    Machinery: 3 361 tons, 11,1 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 10 062 tons, 33,2 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3 787 tons, 12,5 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 7 678 tons, 25,4 %
      - Hull below water: 3 880 tons
      - Hull above water: 3 655 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 70 tons
      - Above deck: 73 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      75 158 lbs / 34 091 Kg = 695,9 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 10,2 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,33
    Metacentric height 8,1 ft / 2,5 m
    Roll period: 14,5 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,09
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has low forecastle,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,525 / 0,533
    Length to Beam Ratio: 7,80 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 27,71 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    14,00 %,  29,82 ft / 9,09 m,  24,41 ft / 7,44 m
      - Forward deck:    34,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Aft deck:    32,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Quarter deck:    20,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Average freeboard:        37,58 ft / 11,45 m
    Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91,8 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 336,5 %
    Waterplane Area: 51 518 Square feet or 4 786 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 149 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 129 lbs/sq ft or 631 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,90
        - Longitudinal: 2,52
        - Overall: 1,00
    Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
    Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight: 6980t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
23t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulsmeyer
OD
20t for 2 cata
50t for Fire Fighting
HAW
3420t for 36 aircrafts-1934
70t for enhanced climatisation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
45t for aircrafts spare parts
40t reserved for materials
HBW
3420t for 36 aircrafts-1934
70t for enhanced ventilation
50t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3 x Fire Wall
45t for aircrafts spares parts
240t for additionnal pumps
15t for enhanced Hydrophone
40t reserved for  material...

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Kaiser Kirk

If the Byzantines need some funds to upgrade plans from "confine a possible explosion to the hangar" to "remote detonated explosion to the hangar", Parthia may be able to help !

Interesting in light of my recent Afson class.

I've got a Light Carrier class I'm considering at 15,000 tons, or 24months time.
Not sure if that will be a 1938.5 or a 1939 laydown, but leaning towards 1939,
so I'll have to rework it.
But then..2 of those, or 1 bigger carrier?

The Baskuc armored carriers are meant to ensure I'll have operating flight decks,
but armored carriers have to sink so much tonnage into armor, they are expensive
for the number of planes. So a mixed force seems the better choice than an all-Armored carrier force.
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Jefgte

15,000-ton aircraft carriers (CV3-CV4-CV5-CV6) will receive more comprehensive safety equipment.
To achieve this, 191/45 Mlle1928 guns will be dismantled and installed on colonial frigates.

CF25, Byzantine Empire Colonial Frigate laid down 1938

Displacement:
   3 000 t light; 3 187 t standard; 3 423 t normal; 3 611 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
   (409,96 ft / 406,82 ft) x 50,85 ft x (11,96 / 12,45 ft)
   (124,96 m / 124,00 m) x 15,50 m  x (3,65 / 3,79 m)

Armament:
      4 - 7,52" / 191 mm 45,0 cal guns - 200,00lbs / 90,72kg shells, 120 per gun
     Breech loading guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1928 Model
     4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
      2 raised mounts - superfiring
      6 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 260 per gun
     Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
     6 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      16 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 2 000 per gun
     Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
     8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
      8 raised mounts
      8 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 4 000 per gun
     Machine guns in deck mounts, 1938 Model
     4 x 2-gun mounts on sides, forward evenly spread
      4 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 1 031 lbs / 468 kg

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3,15" / 80 mm   264,44 ft / 80,60 m   9,32 ft / 2,84 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   2,76" / 70 mm   1,18" / 30 mm      1,57" / 40 mm
   2nd:   0,39" / 10 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -
   4th:   0,24" / 6 mm         -               -

   - Armoured deck - single deck:
   For and Aft decks: 1,38" / 35 mm
   Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm  Quarter deck: 0,98" / 25 mm

   - Conning towers: Forward 2,76" / 70 mm, Aft 0,98" / 25 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 26 391 shp / 19 688 Kw = 27,00 kts
   Range 6 000nm at 12,00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 425 tons

Complement:
   223 - 290

Cost:
   £1,680 million / $6,719 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 269 tons, 7,9 %
      - Guns: 269 tons, 7,9 %
   Armour: 732 tons, 21,4 %
      - Belts: 326 tons, 9,5 %
      - Armament: 61 tons, 1,8 %
      - Armour Deck: 326 tons, 9,5 %
      - Conning Towers: 18 tons, 0,5 %
   Machinery: 723 tons, 21,1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 1 125 tons, 32,9 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 423 tons, 12,4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 151 tons, 4,4 %
      - Hull below water: 15 tons
      - Hull above water: 15 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 49 tons
      - Above deck: 72 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     3 838 lbs / 1 741 Kg = 18,1 x 7,5 " / 191 mm shells or 1,1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,09
   Metacentric height 2,1 ft / 0,7 m
   Roll period: 14,6 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,59
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1,03

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck,
     a normal bow and a cruiser stern
   Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,484 / 0,491
   Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 20,17 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 8,00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
   Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
            Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:   17,50 %,  22,31 ft / 6,80 m,  18,37 ft / 5,60 m
      - Forward deck:   32,50 %,  18,37 ft / 5,60 m,  14,44 ft / 4,40 m
      - Aft deck:   32,50 %,  14,44 ft / 4,40 m,  14,11 ft / 4,30 m
      - Quarter deck:   17,50 %,  14,11 ft / 4,30 m,  14,11 ft / 4,30 m
      - Average freeboard:      15,93 ft / 4,86 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95,9 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 178,0 %
   Waterplane Area: 13 587 Square feet or 1 262 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 107 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 64 lbs/sq ft or 313 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0,70
      - Longitudinal: 1,34
      - Overall: 0,75
   Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
   Excellent accommodation and workspace room
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

AD
25t for Long Range Marconi
27t for top mast rangefinder - FC1924
20t for Hulesmeyer
OD
16t for 2 x 2 TT x 21" HW
15t for night fighting
10t reserved for new materials, armaments.
6t for 30x195kg  DC
2t for "Y" DC
AW
15t for hydrophone
Climatisation
BW
15t for additionnal pumps
"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf

Jefgte

#69
Quote15,000-ton aircraft carriers (CV3-CV4-CV5-CV6) will receive more comprehensive safety equipment.

...8x191mm/45 removed

4x40mm add
Misc weight rework with 1936 Technos (Firefighting, Fire Walls, 1936 aircrafts (95t))
4241t was 3948t
Cost 0.3BP & £ per ship
6 months in shipyards.


Byzantine Empire Aircraft Carrier 1928=>1938-15000t-39 aircrafts laid down 1928


CV3 class
CV3 - Karadeniz - 1928 - 1930H1
CV4 - Kizildeniz - 1928 - 1930H2
CV5 - Kurtadeniz - 1928 - 1930H2
CV6 - Kahuldeniz - 1928 - 1930H2

Displacement:
    15 000 t light; 15 471 t standard; 17 034 t normal; 18 284 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
    (658,58 ft / 656,17 ft) x 82,02 ft x (22,15 / 23,37 ft)
    (200,74 m / 200,00 m) x 25,00 m  x (6,75 / 7,12 m)

Armament:
      8 - 4,02" / 102 mm 45,0 cal guns - 33,00lbs / 14,97kg shells, 240 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
      4 x 2-gun mounts on side ends, evenly spread
        4 raised mounts
      20 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 39,0 cal guns - 2,01lbs / 0,91kg shells, 4 000 per gun
      Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
      10 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        8 raised mounts
      16 - 0,50" / 12,7 mm 62,0 cal guns - 0,07lbs / 0,03kg shells, 10 000 per gun
      Machine guns in deck mounts, 1928 Model
      8 x 2-gun mounts on sides, evenly spread
        8 raised mounts
      Weight of broadside 305 lbs / 138 kg

Armour:
  - Gun armour:    Face (max)    Other gunhouse (avg)    Barbette/hoist (max)
    2nd:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    3rd:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -
    4th:    0,39" / 10 mm          -                  -

  - Box over machinery & magazines:
    2,76" / 70 mm

Machinery:
    Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
    Geared drive, 2 shafts, 80 000 shp / 59 680 Kw = 29,13 kts
    Range 10 000nm at 14,00 kts
    Bunker at max displacement = 2 813 tons

Complement:
    745 - 969

Cost:
    £3,393 million / $13,574 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
    Armament: 57 tons, 0,3 %
      - Guns: 57 tons, 0,3 %
    Armour: 1 097 tons, 6,4 %
      - Armament: 10 tons, 0,1 %
      - Armour Deck: 1 087 tons, 6,4 %
    Machinery: 2 491 tons, 14,6 %
    Hull, fittings & equipment: 7 113 tons, 41,8 %
    Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 034 tons, 11,9 %
    Miscellaneous weights: 4 241 tons, 24,9 %
      - Hull below water: 2 020 tons
      - Hull above water: 2 075 tons
      - On freeboard deck: 65 tons
      - Above deck: 81 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
    Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
      41 591 lbs / 18 865 Kg = 195,6 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 3,3 torpedoes
    Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,21
    Metacentric height 5,3 ft / 1,6 m
    Roll period: 15,0 seconds
    Steadiness    - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 96 %
            - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,04
    Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 2,00

Hull form characteristics:
    Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck ,
      a normal bow and a cruiser stern
    Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,500 / 0,509
    Length to Beam Ratio: 8,00 : 1
    'Natural speed' for length: 25,62 kts
    Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
    Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
    Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 6,00 degrees
    Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
    Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
                Fore end,    Aft end
      - Forecastle:    12,00 %,  22,97 ft / 7,00 m,  19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Forward deck:    40,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Aft deck:    40,00 %,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m,  39,37 ft / 12,00 m
      - Quarter deck:    8,00 %,  19,69 ft / 6,00 m,  19,69 ft / 6,00 m
      - Average freeboard:        35,59 ft / 10,85 m
    Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
    Space    - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75,9 %
        - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 360,9 %
    Waterplane Area: 35 859 Square feet or 3 331 Square metres
    Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 163 %
    Structure weight / hull surface area: 108 lbs/sq ft or 528 Kg/sq metre
    Hull strength (Relative):
        - Cross-sectional: 0,86
        - Longitudinal: 3,89
        - Overall: 1,00
    Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
    Excellent accommodation and workspace room
    Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
    Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

misc weight: 4241t
AD
25t for LR Marconi
31t for 1924 fire control
25t for Hulesmeyer
OD
20t for 2 x 1938 cata
Climatisation
45t for Fire Fighting
HAW
1900t for 20 aircrafts
Climatisation
45t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3x FireWall
100t for aircrafts spare parts
HBW
1805t for 19 aircrafts
45t for Fire Fighting
30t for 3x FireWall
Climatisation
40t for additionnal pumps
100t reserved for  material...

"You French are fighting for money, while we English are fighting for honor!"
"Everyone is fighting for what they miss. "
Surcouf