Ottoman Small Arms

Started by Darman, October 07, 2012, 05:04:36 PM

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Darman

I was trying to determine today roughly what types of small arms an Ottoman infantry unit would be using based on its type: Primitive, Dated, or Baseline. 

My first idea for Primitive shoulder arms was the Berdan breechloading rifle, made in Russia. 

For Dated weapons I thought the Turkish Peabody-Martini-Henry rifle would have been appropriate, it was in use during the Russo-Turkish War in the late 1870s.  Similar would be the Winchester Model 1866

For a Baseline infantry unit I guessed that the Mauser 1887 Turkish model might be a good choice. 

Thoughts?

Delta Force

The Model 1890 or 1893 could be baseline, it uses 7.65 mm Argentinian and is quite modern. The Model 1887 should be dated as it is blackpowder, although one of the best. Lastly the very old Martini-Henry can be primitive.

Tanthalas

I tend to agree with Delta on this one.

Quote from: Delta Force on October 08, 2012, 03:37:47 AM
The Model 1890 or 1893 could be baseline, it uses 7.65 mm Argentinian and is quite modern. The Model 1887 should be dated as it is blackpowder, although one of the best. Lastly the very old Martini-Henry can be primitive.
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Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

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1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Darman


Tanthalas

Should have Bought Italian  ;)

Baseline shoulder arms: Werder Italian

(suposedly its faster than a bolt action)
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

Nobody

Quote from: Tanthalas on February 26, 2013, 04:06:50 PM
Should have Bought Italian  ;)

Baseline shoulder arms: Werder Italian

(suposedly its faster than a bolt action)
But that is German too?

Tanthalas

Yup made for Bavaria, OTL.  I kidnaped it just cause I liked it (and its well wierd)
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all!"

James Graham, 5th Earl of Montrose
1612 to 1650
Royalist General during the English Civil War

KWorld

#7
It's probably faster than the period bolt-actions, as much as anything else because it has an ejector and they didn't.  A more fun weapon than what the US Army has in it's storage facilities (for a little while longer): the 1884 Trapdoor Springfield.  As soon as the 1903 Springfield completes development (might actually be 1902, since the US government is working to get a license from Mauser for the Mauser patents), the Trapdoors will be sold for whatever can be gotten for them.

KWorld

Quote from: Tanthalas on February 26, 2013, 04:06:50 PM
Should have Bought Italian  ;)

Baseline shoulder arms: Werder Italian

(suposedly its faster than a bolt action)

Wouldn't the Italian baseline weapon be the Mannlicher-Carcano M1891 in 6.5x52mm, with the Werder as a dated weapon?