Irish News 1919

snip · September 16, 2010, 10:20:43 PM

Ive never seen a Miami class anywhere in the CSA Encyclopedia

snip · September 17, 2010, 01:05:48 AM

nevermind...found them.

Note this has a 4.85" main battery, not a 6" main battery

snip · September 20, 2010, 06:01:30 PM

Kieran Quinlan watched as Mick Shanahan and a few designers shuffled into his office. The rolls of blue paper tucked under there arms informed Kieran that he might be needing some more coffee to get though this meeting. "Well gentlemen, what have you brought with you?" Kieran was actually quite a bit curios. Mick cleared his throat "Mr. President, what we have here is the future of the Irish Navy." Mick's ear to ear grin gave Kieran all the information he needed to know if this was a good thing or not. One of the designers unrolled a set of blueprints. "I give you the Cathryn Class Frigate!" Mick announced in a bit of an overdramisised way.

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Cathryn Class, Irish Frigate laid down 1920 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
500 t light; 528 t standard; 603 t normal; 663 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
232.00 ft / 225.00 ft x 20.00 ft x 10.00 ft (normal load)
70.71 m / 68.58 m x 6.10 m x 3.05 m

Armament:
3 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1920 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, majority aft, 1 raised mount aft
6 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns (3x2 guns), 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1920 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all amidships
4 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1920 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side ends, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 101 lbs / 46 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 275
3 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
2nd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Conning tower: 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 11,237 shp / 8,382 Kw = 27.00 kts
Range 3,000nm at 12.60 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 135 tons

Complement:
60 - 79

Cost:
£0.157 million / $0.629 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 13 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 9 tons, 1.5 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 7 tons, 1.2 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 275 tons, 45.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 158 tons, 26.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 103 tons, 17.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 45 tons, 7.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
160 lbs / 73 Kg = 5.0 x 4.0 " / 102 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 0.6 ft / 0.2 m
Roll period: 10.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 51 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.45
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.469
Length to Beam Ratio: 11.25 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 15.00 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 18.45 degrees
Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 15.00 ft / 4.57 m
- Forecastle (10 %): 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
- Mid (30 %): 14.00 ft / 4.27 m (9.00 ft / 2.74 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
- Stern: 9.00 ft / 2.74 m
- Average freeboard: 10.54 ft / 3.21 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 172.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 51.7 %
Waterplane Area: 2,917 Square feet or 271 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 57 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 22 lbs/sq ft or 106 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 3.10
- Overall: 0.60
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

25 tons long range wireless
10 tons for mines
6 tons 21inch torpedoes
4 tons construction reserve and expantion room (will most likely vary by individual ship as to use)
Trial speed: 29 knts

Kieran took his time scanning the blueprints. "How many are we going to lay down?" Mick responded "Two sir, both in Dublin." "Very good, we have been in need of a general use vessel for quite some time." Kieran motioned to one of the other sets of prints. "And what do we have here?" Mick and one of the designers unrolled them. "Mr. President, meet the Kerianne class cruiser!"

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Kerrianne Class, Irish Pocket Cruiser laid down 1920 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
3,000 t light; 3,146 t standard; 3,463 t normal; 3,717 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
320.00 ft / 310.00 ft x 50.00 ft x 14.00 ft (normal load)
97.54 m / 94.49 m x 15.24 m x 4.27 m

Armament:
4 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 1920 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
2 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 1920 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all forward
4 - 4.00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32.00lbs / 14.51kg shells, 1920 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1920 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, all aft
2 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns (1x2 guns), 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1920 Model
Machine guns in deck mount
on centreline amidships
Weight of broadside 731 lbs / 332 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 172

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 201.50 ft / 61.42 m 8.49 ft / 2.59 m
Ends: 1.00" / 25 mm 108.48 ft / 33.06 m 8.49 ft / 2.59 m
Upper: 2.00" / 51 mm 201.50 ft / 61.42 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 3.00" / 76 mm
2nd: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 3.00" / 76 mm
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.25" / 6 mm -
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
5th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.50" / 38 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 13,958 shp / 10,413 Kw = 22.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 571 tons

Complement:
225 - 293

Cost:
£0.626 million / $2.503 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 97 tons, 2.8 %
Armour: 861 tons, 24.9 %
- Belts: 475 tons, 13.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 59 tons, 1.7 %
- Armour Deck: 303 tons, 8.7 %
- Conning Tower: 25 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 557 tons, 16.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,230 tons, 35.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 463 tons, 13.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 256 tons, 7.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
5,399 lbs / 2,449 Kg = 50.0 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 13.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.30
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.08

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.559
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.20 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 17.61 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.22 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 19.00 ft / 5.79 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Mid (65 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m (12.50 ft / 3.81 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 12.50 ft / 3.81 m
- Stern: 12.50 ft / 3.81 m
- Average freeboard: 15.02 ft / 4.58 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 137.8 %
Waterplane Area: 10,904 Square feet or 1,013 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 115 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 76 lbs/sq ft or 371 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.91
- Longitudinal: 2.39
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

100 tons Fire controle
50 tons mines
25 tons long range wireless
25 tons flag facilities
25 tons nightfighting equipment
25 tons medical facilities
6 tons construction reserve

"Very nice" Kieran said as he scaned the prints. "How are we going to afford even one of them?" Mick produced a envelope, sealed with wax. "All you need is in there. All is legitimate" Mick's voice was hushed secretively. Kieran noticed the seal had a compass on it and the wax was blue. Looking down at his hand, he knew Mick had done his job.

Jefgte · September 21, 2010, 02:10:11 AM

If you rework the cruiser hull (for ex 120x14), you could certainly have a 27kts ship.
Similar speed to work with the frigate.

Jef ;)

Laertes · September 21, 2010, 06:40:15 AM

I like the Kerrianne. I'd have done her differently, but she's a nasty little piece of work as she stands. Eminently affordable for a small power, too.

snip · September 21, 2010, 11:56:53 AM

Jef: The Kerianne is designed to work with the large minelayers. Besides, I was trying to keep things at 3k tons with sufficient firepower and armor. Speed and range were the first things to be dropped down. Besides, the frigates can still work with them.

Laertes: Thanks! I think in a confined coastal environment, she will be deadly. Affordability was big for me to, but this will still be Ireland's largest ship by 500 tons.

snip · September 24, 2010, 11:00:17 PM

The bouncing stopped, and with a quick check of the stick, Colman knew that the plane was off the ground. He leaned up next the Ellen's ear and shouted "We are airborne!" Ellen looked over the side of the plane and screamed. "O MY GOD!" Colman took one hand off the stick and wrapped it around Ellen's waist. "Its ok, I have you." Colman shouted "You will be fine." He could feel Ellen's chest heaving with rapid breathing. Ellen shouted back, "I'm sorry, just a bit startling. Can you fly with one hand?" "If I need to" Colman shouted back. "Then could you..." Ellen started to say. Colman loosened his grip around her waist. "... keep holding me, it helps with staying calm." Colman kept his hand were it was. The rest of the flight was spent learning how to fly one handed.

Colman stuck the landing and the plane rolled smoothly to a stop near the tents. One of the mechanics jumped up on the wing and helped Ellen clamber out of the cockpit. Colman hopped out of the plane and began talking to one of the mechanics. Ellen just stood, waiting. Colman finished talking to the mechanics and trotted over to Ellen. "Did you enjoy that?" The both began to walk back to the tents. "Yes" Ellen said "It was, it was... I cant describe it. Wonderful doesn't seem to cover it." Colman chuckled "Your right, wonderful does not cover it." "Exilerating?" Ellen suggested, "Or maybe that was because you had your arm around me." They had reached the tent were Ellen had changed. "I wanted you to feel safe." Colman was trying hard not to blush, and failing. "You seemed scared." Ellen looked up at Colman's face. "Thank you. Its nice to know." Colman tried to form some intelligible words, but nothing was coming to mind. Ellen grinned, "I guess I should thank you somehow..." Ellen slowly wrapped her arms around Colman's neck. "You don't need t..." Colman started to say. Ellen cut him off by gently kissing him. Colman felt like he was flying, without the Fulmar.

snip · October 09, 2010, 07:28:49 PM

Overheard in the Office of Naval Construction and Procurement:
"Three is always better than two." "Would Cassidy work for her name sir?" "Why I would be honored to name her after your wife-to-be."

Overheard in some government office:
"I think we have something leftover from 1913 that could be of use here, let me find it."

Another government office:
"Interesting...give them this." (shuffling of paper) "Ah...very good."

Front page article of the Dublin Daily.

Navy Releases 1920 Construction Schedule

The Navy Department released news yesterday about the new construction programs for 1920. A new design of a 500 ton general purpose warship, referred to as a "C Class Frigate", has been finalized. Over the course of 1920 four to six of these units will be layed down. The first two, Cathryn and Catelyn, are set to be layed down in Dublin Naval yard. The third and fourth ships, Catriona and Colleen, will follow the first two after they are finished in July of 1920. Names for two other ships, Cassidy and Corisa, were given but not when construction would commence. When asked about the question, Navy officials were divided about whether these vessels would be layed down in Dublin in 1921 or in Belfast in 1920.

Also included in the release was the purchase of four of the St. Louis Class cruisers from the Confederate States of America. These ships will journey to Ireland over the course of the first half of the year, will all four ships expected to commission as Sierra, Slany, Sosanna, and Sheelah by August of this year. The class does consist of nine units, but no mention of the remaining 5 ships were made. A 3000 ton cruiser was referenced in the release with the names Kerianne, Kiahna, and Kiara, but no details were released regarding the ships and when or were they would be layed down.

On the second page of the same paper.

Inside the Irish Air Corp
Ellen Mahoney

My first visit to the Air Corp test facility outside of Dublin was much more exiting then I expected. Flying is a truly amassing thing. Captain Colman McEvoy had just returned from a test flight shortly after I arrived and meet with the base commander. Captain McEvoy offered to take me up for a flight in a SPAC Fulmar, the new Fighter-scout being built by the St. Patrick Aeronautical Company. After having quite a adventure getting into the clothing needed for flying, I bored the plane with Captain McEvoy. The view of the countryside was spectacular, I could see almost all the way back to Dublin. It was sad to have to come back down. Hopefully I will get a chance for Captain McEvoy or one of the other pilots at the facility to take me up again. Maybe I can convince one of them to teaching me how to fly.

Captain McEvoy with his Fulmar. OOC: this is really Eddie Rickenbacker best pic I could find

Laertes · October 10, 2010, 03:17:54 AM

Hmmm, perhaps Ireland will be leading the world in naval aviation? Bypassing the big-gun ships entirely will certainly save her a large chunk of research funding.

snip · October 10, 2010, 03:25:19 AM

well there is something Im toying with...but i just don't have the yard space and BP to build it. Colman and Ellen might get a bit wraped up in that if I can get someone to build the ship.

snip · December 24, 2010, 12:17:39 AM

Note: I'm just going to wrap up a few stories (or there segments in Ireland...) so that way if a new player wants to step in, they will have it bit easier go of it with all the people I have here. All events before Jan-1-1920, and OOC comments in italics.

Colman McEvoy walked into the office of the Dublin Daily. The office was quiet aside from the clatter of a single typewriter. "Just like you to be working at this hour." Ellen Mahoney looked up "Colman, what a present surprise!" Ellen hoped out of her chair and gave Colman a large hug with a kiss on the cheek. "What brings you by? I have something I needed to talk to you about anyway." The look on Colman's face must have given something away as Ellen asked "Is something wrong?" Colman let out a slow breath. "I'm leaving." he said. "To go were? Why?" Ellen looked like she was about to cry. "China." Colman said. "Specifically the Middle Kingdom. They need pilots there. Some of the boys and I volunteered to go." "Well, isn't this the coincidence of the century." Ellen said. Colman looked at her questioningly. "The paper is sending me to China to do a searis on the war." Colman started laughing "Whats so funny?" Ellen said. "It just..." Colman said between chuckles "I was so concerned about saying goodbye to you. I had this whole thing planed. And now, we are going to the same place." "What did you have planed?" Ellen asked, her tone laced with a thin hint of seductiveness. "Well now there is no need for you to know" Colman said "But I guess this calls for a nice dinner, and some good whiskey." Ellen looked at Colman with a twinkle in her eye "That sounds good, but what about after that?" "I'm sure we will think of something." Colman replied. "Let me finish this and I will be right down." Ellen said planting herself back in front of the typewriter. Colman began to walk towards the door as the clicking of keys resumed.
Yes, I am keeping these two. I still had some plans for them that would almost work better in the Middle Kingdom than Ireland.