Vacation

[Sachmle]

Have fun. Watch out for creepy red tank top wearing guys who stair at you a$$ in airport lobbies like the one in you pic above.;)

[Borys]

Ahoj!
On the 22nd I'm sending my boy to his first summer camp. A "Young Commando" camp, whatever that might be :)
As Robert's mother could not let go and was all emotional, I'm taking her to the beach to the same town ... a week with no work ... bliss ...
Borys

[Desertfox]

Heading out tomorrow for Rocky Point, need to scout out the beaches in case I need to invade the CSA...

[Walter]

Back from London. My ears are still ringing from the Typhoon and the Vulcan. It's a tough year for my poor ears.

[maddox]

The Eurofighter Typhoon is a menance to hearing. The F22, F16 and F18 are among the VERY noisy ones. But the Typhoon beats them all hands down. The intensity and frequency conspire to get me very annoyed with it.

The Vulcan is silent in comparisation.

It's also the reason I wear ear protection for 12 hours a day when at Fairford. (Next year I'm going to double the protection. Earplugs and mufflers.Not a pretty sight, but very functional)

[TexanCowboy]

Oh, crud.....forgot to write that I have returned.

As Rocky already knows, I was doing what some people would consider to be a reenactment of the Bataan Death March....but what people like me call backpacking.  :)

[Walter]

The Eurofighter Typhoon is a menance to hearing. The F22, F16 and F18 are among the VERY noisy ones. But the Typhoon beats them all hands down. The intensity and frequency conspire to get me very annoyed with it.

Yes. VERY noisy. :)

[TexanCowboy]

AhHA! So THAT's the evil European plan to take over the world!  ;)

[Nobody]

The Eurofighter Typhoon is a menance to hearing. The F22, F16 and F18 are among the VERY noisy ones. But the Typhoon beats them all hands down. The intensity and frequency conspire to get me very annoyed with it.

Yes. VERY noisy. :)

Interesting, in Germany they "sell" the Eurofighter to airfield residents as much less noisy than the the Phantom IIs and Tornadoes they replace.



BTW, I will be on vacation next week.

[Guinness]

Anything with even a low-bypass modern turbofan will be quieter subjectively and objectively than a Phantom.

When I was a wee mite, and the Phantoms were displaced by F-15s (by the Airforce) and F-18s (by the Navy) at what is now Dobbins Air Reserve Base, those of us living 5 or 6 miles away did indeed hear the difference. The J79 was just about the loudest jet engine ever developed.  I don't know about the RB199, but developmentally it's a contemporary of the F100 in the Eagle.

Now fire up the afterburners on any of these babies, and I'll bet that subjectively at least they all sound the same.

Now the F119 on the F-22 really is quiet. Those suckers can almost sneak up on you at low altitude.

[Desertfox]

F-22 quiet? On of those doing a low speed pass on full afterburner at 100yds is the loudest thing I have ever heard. Even more than all 6 Thunderbirds combined.

Back BTW, Rocky Point is a good place to stage an amphibious assault (at high tide). Pity no real targets nearby.

[Guinness]

Yeah, but F-22s hardly ever fly with the burners on. Sans burner, they're a lot quieter than a small airliner, and definitely quieter than a C-5B (for instance).

The truth is if you are that close to any jet powered aircraft, and particularly any high-thrust fighter, it's going to be so damned loud you probably can't differentiate anyway. The inverse square law applies here. For the purposes of "selling" a base to the locals, what matters is probably more like noise with no burners on at 2000 to 5000 feet or so, and noise on typical take off and landing. Here newer high-performance fighters can really make a difference too: they can take off with much shorter runs, and can climb steeper, meaning they can get up high enough where noise is less of an issue quicker.

[P3D]

More importantly, the sound of turbojets/fans is very directional. An approaching plane would always be less noisy than one that already dropped its bomb on your position.

[maddox]

For the airshows, it seems the pilots enjoy using the most noisy configuration of the throttle of their machines.  Low pass flights were you can see the tarmac dry in the exhaust and such. Even the single engined F16 (and I have seen the Dutch demo bird a lot of times the last 2 years) is loud there.

I have seen the Typhoon doing high level demo's and low level demo's and both were LOUD. But when playing Follow The Leader, with a Spitfire as leader, you can hear the Merlin at about the same level of sound as the jet.

[Phoenix]

Oh ... Yes... the Follow The Leader game... as in this:



Or my all time favourite...:


(Yeah, there were actually people who thought watching us putting our robots into the arena was far more interesting than the majestic sight of the last flying Avro Vulcan on Earth soaring with the dignity of a queen over their heads but nooooo...  ::) People have got to teach their kids better interests !!! $*ù%@#§ stupid parents...)

Mind you, all of this taken with a 15-85mm lens. I've seen some guys on the tarmac sporting quite impressive aah... "Schwarzes". You could just hear them think when glancing over at my meager equipment: "mine's waaaaay bigger than yours, you know, so why don't you slink away in the mud over there in order to wallow in shame and let the big boys take over ?". Didn't see those big boys jump from the parachutists' tower so I guess I came out the winner of whatever contest it was. Shame they couldn't use those big zonkers to zoom in on me making almost a lasting impression on British soil. Sissies.

And before your curiousity eats you alive, no, Maddox didn't jump. He's heavier than me. He knows arithmetic and the laws of physics.
And yes, I have a fear of hights. But with that sturdy harness (which definitely wasn't meant for DD-cup size so I had to go and push everything back in a more or less decent place in front of a wiiiidely smiling instructor !) and the soft-spoken kindly smiling bloke behind you giving you a shove if you dared to pause and admire the view, it was actually fun. I even remembered just in time you had to land with both feet.  :P Have been reading too much X-Men comics I have.  ;D

Boris, I hope your boy will have the time of his life. No doubt getting intimately acquainted with mud, but I don't think young boys have an aversion to getting dirty. His mum's reaction, when he gets back and proudly hands over his dripping clothes bag, on the other hand may be a sight to behold...  ;D ;D ;D