Italy/New Zion II: Electric Boogaloo

[The Rock Doctor]

Some quick thoughts.

1. The Zionites in the hills acted just as I thought they would.
2. Someone is not reinforcing southern success.
3. Airship recon works?!?!?!?!?!
4. Airpower as an attacker is still not quite there.
5. Minefields are not as effective as they should be.
6. Destroyer's.......torpedoes continue to be the bane of naval forces. I was surprised by how ineffective the naval gunnery was.  
7. What should have been an encirclement trap at sea failed. Now the 25,000 NS have to be stomped on land. Drowning them would have been more important than a big slug-fest at sea. When in doubt with your air-strike kill transports!

I'll comment on a couple of these observations:

3)  It can, if provided with aircover and not opposed by a lot of enemy fighters; the Swiss do not have a lot of capability to keep the airships away.

4)  This was my perspective.  I thought the airborne torpedo attacks - apart from having small weapons - did not produce a huge number of hits.  I'll ignore the high-level bombing attack.

5)  I think civvie traffic is kind of shutting down in much of the Rift, and the Zionite barrier fields are not completed.  Certain other fields may have been laid and may produce results yet.

7)  Let's just say that the first time out, the Italian pilots were thinking, "Why would I attack a liner when I can sink a cruiser?"

[Desertfox]

Rocky, are we getting the map? The Northern Front is somewhat confusing. Also can I have a sighting report? Basically, which ships I positively identified from the allied fleets, plus estimated total numbers?

[TexanCowboy]

Well, why are you blaming Romania for starting the war?

[The Rock Doctor]

*grumble, grumble, GRUMBLE* WHY!?!?!? Am I the one that must suffer from air strikes! *grumble*

Well, cuz you're not the guy using aircraft against ships.  

On the other hand, your use of aircraft has made the difference in terms of what flag flies over Eliat.

I'll work on a map of the Northern front tonight.  I need to get out and do some chores first.

I'll look at the battle report and see what additional info might be warranted for either side, but am determined to shroud you all with some fog of war.

[Desertfox]

*grumble* Any chance on updating the CV tech tree? I need some FAST.

When did I blame Romania for anything?

[TexanCowboy]

Look at tez news.

[ctwaterman]

Some quick thoughts.

1. The Zionites in the hills acted just as I thought they would.
2. Someone is not reinforcing southern success.
3. Airship recon works?!?!?!?!?!
4. Airpower as an attacker is still not quite there.
5. Minefields are not as effective as they should be.
6. Destroyer's.......torpedoes continue to be the bane of naval forces. I was surprised by how ineffective the naval gunnery was.  
7. What should have been an encirclement trap at sea failed. Now the 25,000 NS have to be stomped on land. Drowning them would have been more important than a big slug-fest at sea. When in doubt with your air-strike kill transports!

I'll comment on a couple of these observations:

3)  It can, if provided with aircover and not opposed by a lot of enemy fighters; the Swiss do not have a lot of capability to keep the airships away.

4)  This was my perspective.  I thought the airborne torpedo attacks - apart from having small weapons - did not produce a huge number of hits.  I'll ignore the high-level bombing attack.

5)  I think civvie traffic is kind of shutting down in much of the Rift, and the Zionite barrier fields are not completed.  Certain other fields may have been laid and may produce results yet.

7)  Let's just say that the first time out, the Italian pilots were thinking, "Why would I attack a liner when I can sink a cruiser?"

To Quote Me... Damn those Pilots... they were supposed to attack the Transports.
The attack was not actually supposed to succeed.... the lookouts were supposed to be looking up and trying to avoid collisions while manuvering to avoid bombs and torps while the Battle Ship and Heavy Cruisers and nasty Destroyers were running up on them from the Southe West.....

Looks at his watch... someone was late.... but in an era of no atomic clocks, bad navagation and inaccurate charts and chancy Radio Communications well *Crap Happens*  

[ctwaterman]

*grumble* Any chance on updating the CV tech tree? I need some FAST.

Your the one operating ships within a 100 Miles of one of my Major Airbases.

I will note Rocky was kind nobody ever used 16" Air born Torpedoes all my aircraft were capable of carrying a standard 18" Torp modified to air use...

Now... as to those Dice of a certain mods who have not given me a tech in less then 3 years since 1915 I think... well they appear to love my air attacks.  Honestly I did not expect to hit anything.

[Desertfox]

Well one thing for sure, asymmetrical warfare is extremely effective. It just sucks that all of my theories and ideas get proven by my enemies.

Then again I took on three 30k ton battleships with a pair of 14k ton battlecruisers and a semi-dreadnought, and won. Those odds where terrible.

[TexanCowboy]

Superbe got hurt....hmm, we repair for low low low low price (the ship)  :D

[damocles]

1920 aerial torpedo tactics will work against 1920 AAA air defense only if the planes are massed. I think the results here were frankly incredible.  People who scream for CV tech are not drawing the proper lessons yet. The planes are not ready

What is possible governs planning. That is why I was astonished by the airship recon. Good weather helps.

Massed destroyer torpedo attacks are hard to pull off under the best conditions. This one will be an Nverse classic of how to. What? No collisions and circle runs?

The Zionites (read New Swiss) used poison gas? And they claim they are the aggrieved party in anything?

Nobody can beat Dutch prices.

D.

[Desertfox]

I want the CVs for defense not attack.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Besides these are the same people who in OTL have developed and will use nuclear weapons if pushed to the sea.

[ctwaterman]

I want the CVs for defense not attack.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Besides these are the same people who in OTL have developed and will use nuclear weapons if pushed to the sea.

The Empire has publicly declared in the past a no first use policy on Chemical Weapons... we consider them barbaric.  That being said I knew who I was fighting and already purchased a few uses of such weapons and deployed them to the area.   

[maddox]

Superbe got hurt....hmm, we repair for low low low low price (the ship)  :D

Superb got hurt? That's new Glorious France doesn't know about that.   
She's were she was for the last month, at her berth in Djibouti, waiting for her turn in the drydock, she's in for a rebuild.

[TexanCowboy]

Oye....apparently, according to Rocky, it did....