Dar-es-Salaam Conference

[ctwaterman]

*Prince Marcus Aquila looks out at those gathered and when no one else rises to speak he stands to speak again*

Ambassador Serrano and Ambassador Delalle both have very valid points.  The Empire is willing to concede the increased sensitivity of the Gran Columbia to events in East Africa.  In addition the Representative from the Republic of Orange is correct In that we can argue about the past or we can try to work on the possibility of peace in the future.
To that end let us get to the meat of this matter.   The Kingdom of New Zion signed a treaty to end a war with the Empire of Italia.   The Empire feels that the Kingdom of New Zion is not fulfilling its obligations under that treaty.   In effect New Zion is arming with foreign weapons and foreign advisors and with imported technology.   The Kingdom of New Zion is in noncompliance with the majority of the terms of that treaty and now the New Swiss Republic has offered an alliance to the Kingdom of New Zion.
The Empire would suggest that we hear from those nations who were chosen to monitor a change in government by the Kingdom of New Zion and see what they have to say on the matter??

*Prince Marcus Aquila retakes his seat and looks patiently to the representatives from the CSA, ESC, and Japan.*

[Carthaginian]

Teddy stands, and with his usual 'all or nothing' attitude, launches into his statement:

"According to Article 5 of the Dar-es--Salaam Agreement "Upon appointment or election of a new government, New Zion shall declare itself to be constitutionally neutral, and shall enshrine such policy in a national constitution.  New Zion shall not enter into military alliance or other cooperative military agreements, nor sell or lease lands, equipment or materials to third parties, nor allow basing of third party military forces within its borders." Yet today, we stand here in a New Zion who is quietly and subtly casting aside this fundamental point of the agreement and using New Swiss weapons and New Swiss military advisers to rebuild their military.

After the events earlier recounted by the Honorables of the delegation from Italia, there can be little doubt that Italia views this as a breech of treaty on the part of New Zion- that they are entering into a binding military agreement with the Swiss. The Confederate States of America agree with the government of Italia. Though there be no hard currency changing hands during the course of these agreements, how often do allies agree to aid each other for ''due considerations"- essentially meaning that a favor is owed at a later time?

No, we must treat this case as exactly what it is- a covert rearmament on the part of the Zionites, and an attempt by the Swiss to destabilize the delicate balance of the peace in Africa."

Tedy takes his seat, and awaits the remaining delegates.

[maddox]

Admiral Geon calls in another aid, and after a few wispered words, the young man dissappears.

A bit later, most representatives recieve a note, except the New Swiss and Zionites. (who of course get theirs trough other means, such information has a value, and a certain clerk who copied the note will have a few "richter" months now) .

It stands reasoning that New Swiss has more motives. Is it coïncidence that a short time after Iberia and DKB clean out a pirates nest at Soccotra, A NS flottila appears close by, at the Island of Masirah nominaly held by the fickle Romanians, leased from an OR protectorate?

[TexanCowboy]

For OOC reasons, the position given by Romania when asked about Masahri and the sub-lease was that it was a act of the corrupt King Carol.

[Desertfox]

OOC Mods, can I speak for New Zion?

It stands reasoning that New Swiss has more motives. Is it coïncidence that a short time after Iberia and DKB clean out a pirates nest at Soccotra, A NS flottila appears close by, at the Island of Masirah nominaly held by the fickle Romanians, leased from an OR protectorate?

%^#$#$%$ miketr!!! Why did you have to do that story at just that time? WHY!!?!!?! That was one very unfortunate coincidence.

IC NS "In reply to the Italians, we do not know of this alliance you speak of. New Switzerland has not offered New Zion any form of alliance or cooperative agreement.

In reply to the Confederate charges, would the Confederates care to elaborate how Swiss actions have impacted Article 5 of the Dar-es-salaam agreement? New Switzerland has not entered into any sort of military alliance of cooperative military agreement with New Zion, New Switzerland has not bought or leased lands from New Zion, New Switzerland has not based military forces within Zionite borders. Of course New Zion might have breached the article with some other nation, but if that is the case why bring in New Switzerland.

Yes New Zion bought Swiss weapons. Is that a breach of the Dar-es-salaam Treaty? There is nothing in the Treaty that forbids the purchase of foreign weapons by New Zion. Do you expect a nation that just suffered unwarranted aggression to not try to defend itself?

Yes there are Swiss advisers in the Zionite military. Their numbers are very limited, and they were there before, during, and after the war. No mention was made of them in the Treaty, and their numbers have not increased since. If their presence there was a problem, why where they not brought up during the Peace Talks a long time ago?

As all of you know, New Switzerland sells weapons worldwide, Swiss advisers work worldwide, even a few of you sitting here have been recipients of such services. So is adding one more client and making some money, such a crime?"

[TexanCowboy]

Behind the scene, Special Agent Jack Bauer appears. But he isn't there for the entertainment value. He has a job to do. One that will affect the Empire's future.

[Desertfox]

He better not try anything funny. He's up against these guys...



;D

[TexanCowboy]

Well, Mr.T and Chuck Norris are in backup...  ;D

[Walter]

Looking at that picture, I can interpret it in two different ways. :)

"It should be noted that the selected commission was there to oversee the selection of a new New Zion government, not to select the new New Zion government nor judge whether the newly selected New Zion government is a right one or a wrong one. We were not given any powers to take any actions nor was that apparently expected of us by those who wrote the treaty, otherwise it would have been indicated.

"The Swiss representative is right. There is no indication that Article 5 of the Dar-es-Salaam Agreement has been breached on those points. It specifically refers to New Zion actions, not the actions of other nations, so while the sale of lands, equipment or materials by New Zion is prohibited, the sale of lands, equipment or materials to New Zion is not. There is also no indication of the establishment of an alliance or other cooperative agreement of a military nature with any existing nation.

"However, I am not aware of any public declarations of constitutional neutrality or enshrinement of such policy in a national constitution. Regarding the Swiss advisors, one could argue that that would or should be considered to be a "military force", but in my eyes that would depend on the number of advisors present in New Zion. Perhaps the Swiss representative can give us a number as to how many advisors there are in New Zion at present.

"Japan has noted that New Zion is in violation of Article 4, that New Zion shall become party to international agreements regarding conduct of war and maritime law. To this date, New Zion has signed none of the Den Haag Conventions nor has it signed the Vienna Convention.

"Perhaps now would be a good time to have New Zion sign those conventions and make a declaration of constitutional neutrality right here or have them show proof that they have done that already."

[Carthaginian]

"The Swiss representative is right. There is no indication that Article 5 of the Dar-es-Salaam Agreement has been breached on those points. It specifically refers to New Zion actions, not the actions of other nations, so while the sale of lands, equipment or materials by New Zion is prohibited, the sale of lands, equipment or materials to New Zion is not. There is also no indication of the establishment of an alliance or other cooperative agreement of a military nature with any existing nation.

Teddy again addresses the Assembly:
"I would like to point out than any sale or transfer of military equipment is a 'cooperative military agreement' and indicates that New Zion is definately in breech of Article 5 as a result. Whether these weapons are donated, bartered for, purchased in hard currency or even loaned on an IOU, the agreement between New Zion for the equipment and advisors is clearly a cooperative agreement between two nations. The extent to which this affects the neutrality of the New Zion goernment is purely accidemic... the fact remains that there has been an agreement of good faith between two nations regarding the purchase of military equipment and the hiring of military advisors, and for the stationing of the same in New Zion.

These points are both in  in direct violation of Article 5 of the Dar-es-Salaam agreement, in that 1.) "New Zion shall not enter into military alliance or other cooperative military agreements" and 2.) "nor allow basing of third party military forces within its borders." New Zion has indeed breeched the agreement under the terms of Article 5, and the Confederate States of America offers the 'cooperative military agreement' regarding the sale of weapons and advisors for such weapons and the basing of the same advisors within New Zion territory as the proof."

[The Rock Doctor]

Sr. Serrano takes notes and looks over to the Zionite representative...

[The Rock Doctor]

OOC:  We don't have an official speaker for the Zionites.  Is there somebody - currently uninvolved - who would be willing to roleplay them?  Consultations with Foxy will be necessary, naturally.

[Desertfox]

OOC Maddox told me to go ahead and play New Zion, unless there are any objections?

As far as Article 4, that has to do more with me switching countries than any Machiavellian Zionite plans for world domination.

IC The Zionite representative finally stands, "New Zion has embraced neutrality as part of its national constitution, as for signing the Den Haag convention, New Zion is more than willing to do so, however, due to less than ideal relations with the nation keeping the official documents, New Zion has not had the opportunity to officially put its signature on said documents. But if said documents can be obtained, I am legally endowed with the authority to sign them in the name of New Zion."   

[Desertfox]

Rousseau turns to face Roosevelt, "Mr. Roosevelt, what you just state is a very VERY broad interpretation of the Treaty, and one I do not share. If that was the expected interpretation, no sane nation would have dare signed such a treaty. What you just said directly infringes on the rights any independent nation has to defend itself from all foreign aggression. It also happens to be a very hypocritical statement from the nation that sold New Zion the bulk of its navy. That said, if the sale or purchase of military equipment is a form of cooperative military agreement, then why does Article 5 still explicitly forbid the sale, be New Zion, of military equipment, but does not do the same for the purchase of said equipment?

To answer the Japanese, New Switzerland has around a hundred advisers in New Zion, of which only about half are in a formal military capacity."

[Walter]

Master Asia writes a note in Chinese and hands it over to one his aides. "Saru, get to our consulate here and have them send this message," he whipspers in Manchurian.

As the aide slips away, Japan's representative gets up.

"Japan does not share the Confederates' very loose definition of 'cooperative military agreements', though perhaps that might be because English is not my main language and because of that I would interpret it differently. With 'cooperative' I understand 'working together' and I do not see the sale of weapons, equipment or materials to New Zion as an indication that they are working together with the Swiss. The adviors is another matter though as they are working together with New Zion troops.

"It is unfortunate that the DKB has turned away the Dutch from this conference for they would most certainly have taken the documents along of the Den Haag Conventions. Considering their past actions, that was to be expected though."