Japanese Empire

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Desertfox     
Posted: Feb 17 2006, 10:12 AM


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July 1st, 1901

To the governments of the New Switzerland, the Deutsches Kaiserreich Brandenburg, and the Republic of Central Australia

From His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Hirohito.

For the purposes of bringing our great nations together, and to promote peace and unity among the many different peoples of Asia, the Empire of Japan requests admission into the Triple Alliance.

Foreign Minister Sakura
   
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Desertfox    
Posted: Feb 17 2006, 10:13 AM


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OOC what the Empire of Japan really is:

The Eastern Kingdom, as NPC

Capital: Dodan (historical Juneau)
Government: Technically a colony of China; effectively an oligarchy
Economy: 1 HBP, 3 MBP
Manpower: 2 MP

When it becomes a player nation, it's another kettle of fish.
Geography: includes most of Alaska (excepting New Swiss possessions around Anchorage), the western Yukon, the western Northwest Territories (west and north of Great Slave Lake), and northwestern Alberta (west of the Hay and Peace rivers).

A far-flung cast-off from the Middle Kingdom, this is a nation in all but name. A modest, though not so well armed military exists with which to defend the colony from its neighbours, Russia and the UKA being perhaps the most worrisome. The governor has been under some pressure to declare independence from the Middle Kingdom, and with the economy being fuelled by recent placer gold discoveries along the Yukon River, there is speculation that he may finally go ahead and do so.


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Ithekro    
Posted: Feb 17 2006, 11:27 AM


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OOC:
(Hmmm....

Give me a day or until Monday and I could come up with something a little more creative in terms of emperor's name and title of the "empire".

I don't know if Rohan should be, or would be worried or not yet.)
   
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swamphen    
Posted: Feb 17 2006, 01:38 PM


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(As I mentioned elsewhere...the Eastern Kingdom is not, and has never been, a "colony of China". It has been an independent nation for at least 500 years...)
   
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Desertfox    
Posted: Feb 17 2006, 01:54 PM


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Well this is what Rocky said and what Im basing it on:

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far-flung cast-off from the Middle Kingdom, this is a nation in all but name. A modest, though not so well armed military exists with which to defend the colony from its neighbours, Russia and the UKA being perhaps the most worrisome. The governor has been under some pressure to declare independence from the Middle Kingdom,



Yeah I can use some names, I was in a hurry so I picked whatever came to mind.
   
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Ithekro    
Posted: Feb 17 2006, 02:19 PM


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I guess the clans had never actually declared themselves as apart from the Middle Kingdom. If this is correct then this is a combined Chinese-Japanese type place (though at that time it might not be much difference politically as the King of Japan called himself a sevant of the Emperor of China), as by the time Mt. Fuji blew the clans would have been in the middle of a civil war, and some of the cast-off Chinese in the Americas would take them in. I've been placing more Japanese features to this nation mainly because I felt that we needed some Japanese influence in things, even if only culturally. I just wonder if this should become a player nation at some point, or remain a NPC.
   
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swamphen    
Posted: Feb 17 2006, 10:05 PM


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Ah de facto vs de jure independence, gotta love it...

While the details might vary from the Swiss propagandised version wink.gif , given that it seems that it might be reasonable.

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actual events

Foreign Ministry, Brandenburg
4 July 1901

Count Bernhard von Bülow studied the sheet of paper carefully. A request, from the "Empire of Japan" - formerly known as the Eastern Kingdom, prior to a revolution declaring "long overdue independence from the Middle Kingdom" for the long de facto independent state - to join the Triple Alliance.

von Bülow thought that the timing of the "revolution" was suspisciously convienent. His collegues often kidded him about having "newswissanoia"; his only-half-jesting reply was that it wasn't paranoia if they were really out to get everyone. Would this "Empire" become another puppet state of the Swiss as the Republic of Central Australia was? He had his own ideas about that one...

He stepped to the door of his office and handed the message to his secretary. "Send this along to the Kaiser, without my endorsement or dissention." He paused. "Take your time."

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diplomatic note

To the Rohirrim Foreign Ministry

As is known throughout the world, your great nation frowns on empire-building at the expense of native peoples. While this has lead to some verbal sparring regarding some moves by the Reich, we tend to agree with your posistion, which is why we take great pains to accomodate and assist those in our territories...but I digress.

I am rather concerned about the recent "revolution" in the Eastern Kingdom, creating the "Empire of Japan". While there is no clear indication yet of foul play, the timing of this "revolution" and the immediate request for joining the Triple Alliance cause me great suspiscion that the United States of New Switzerland and Australia may be meddling on the American continent yet again.

As your formidable intelligence arm is much closer to the scene than the Abwehr, I would reccomend that your nation conduct a careful investigation into what, if any, external influences may have been at work in Alaska in recent times.

Count Bernhard von Bülow
State Secretary for Foreign Affairs
Deutsches Kaiserreich Brandenburg

   
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Ithekro    
Posted: Feb 17 2006, 11:18 PM


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Diplomatic Note ~

To Count Bernhard von Bülow

The Kingdom of Rohan appreciates the situation, and is doing what we can do figure out the recent sequence of events.  We have a few families and clans from the north represented within Rohan's borders and will see about acquiring more useful knowledge about this alliance and the sudden "seperation" from the Qing Empire that it has been seperated by distance from since before the Qing Empire was founded.

Rohan hopes this newly arisen power will be friendly with Rohan, as the Kingdom does not need yet another war, nor a new enemy.

Signed,

Gamling Arodson
Foreign Advisor for the King to the Pacific Nations.

   
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Ithekro    
Posted: Feb 18 2006, 12:39 AM


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Nippon Teikoku would be approriate: as that is I believe literally Empire of the Sun's Origin in Japanese. Since the Americas are East of Japan, that would still be a true statement from a certain point of view. (The origin of the name says that since Japan is east of China, the charaters for that land were a description of the fact the sun originates out there in (or behind really) those lands.) Or Empire of Nippon.

This land would have some Chinese, Native populations, Ainu that came with the Japanese and helped resettle with their cousins the Aleuts and others, and surviving Japanese from the north and south of the Home Islands (the Ainu would have come from the northern most Island which was not in the Japanese hands in 1500).

As for the Emperor....Meiji or perhaps Mutsuhito (This is the actual Emperor's name, and is the historical name of the ruler of Japan in 1901).

However if there is a PC for this nation, they will be allowed to stylize a bit.
   
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Marek Gutkowski    
Posted: Feb 18 2006, 09:01 AM


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IC:
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Offical responce From Empire of Spain.

Spain dose not recognise the Empire og Japan
and belives Its a part of The Great nation of Middle Kingdom.
Only if the Middle Kingdom Recognise the new political entety. will Spain and its govermant recognise the empire of japan.
   
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Desertfox    
Posted: Feb 21 2006, 12:48 AM


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OOC

Well its no fun without a rebellion. biggrin.gif

No problem if I give the Eastern Kingdom a small BB, 6 TBs and a GB? Plus a L3 infantry corp and a fort in Dodan? I have a story coming up.
   
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Maddox    
Posted: Feb 21 2006, 01:08 AM


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OOC

If it is a story, that doesn't have any influence on actions between players, I don't see a problem.

But as the Eastern Kingdom is an NPC, I will step in if in game advantages are gained.

Out game bonusses for participation are of course between me and the participants. Like the Santisima Trinidad .
   
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Ithekro    
Posted: Feb 21 2006, 10:47 AM


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I was thinking more along the lines of the historical Japanese Navy up to roughly 1895 (Since they would not have fought the Sino-Japanese War they would not have started the ten year plan that got them five more modern battleships ending with Mikasa) I know they had two fairly modern battleship battleships to counter the two Chinese battleships (though they weren't ready by the time of the war), so we can say they have two ships to counter the two California ships....or California bought the two ships from Rohan to counter the two Eastern Kingdom's battleships. Since they will likely not be engaged by any player, we can leave their details to a future player. The older (pre-1886) ships we could do based on the actually Japanese vessels. I think I have that information, but I'll have to double check this evening. They probably had other older battleships, many of would be from the 1860s and 1870s and nearing the end of their usefulness. As I said I'll check later.