RRC 1917

[Borys]

Ahoj!
Great that you had this saved somewhere - the RR rules did dissapear ...

And I believe that the Trans Siberian is - along enormous stretches - single track.
My parents did the Peking-Warsaw trip by train in late 1967, and it was single track across most of Siberia.
Borys

[maddox]

Railroads are , unless special circumstances, are in the IC development.

And it's simple, the RRC railplans are remicent of the 5 year plans of Sovjet Russia and China.

[Logi]

I did read the history of the diesel locomotive, in 1923 steam locomotives were banned from NYC because of pollution problems and replaced with diesel locomotives because electric locomotives didn't work yet.

So maybe a bit early, do you want me to remove that?

[maddox]

Up now China uses steam locomotives, as coal is a lot cheaper than diesel.

And electric has only 1 huge disadvange, especialy for distances as encountred in the RRC.  You need shitloads of copper for the wires....  at least 4 ton per km. But the technology excists in 1917, steam is just much more convenient, and the enviroment doesn't matter that much "yet"..

[Logi]

I'll change it, but I except the cities would have noticed the population and banned steam locomotives. The vast interior of China, not so much. Changed.

[Nobody]

Maybe I missed something but I'm pretty sure that no usable diesel locomotive existed until the 1930s while electric trains where already established in the 1910s.

[Guinness]

Wiki cuz I'm lazy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_locomotive

I presume the RRC has instituted something similar to the OTL Kaufman Act which banned steam locomotives in NYC. That was 1923. This resulted in GE's first Diesel switchers being delivered in 1925.

But overall, Nobody is right that Diesels didn't become economically viable until the 30's, while electric was common in some places 15 years earlier.

[Logi]

Yes, its something similar to the Kaufman Act.

I think then the first diesel switchers will be delivered in late 1920.

If necessary, I'll consider to switching to electric.

[ctwaterman]

A suggestion -  Logi wants big diesel engines very big diesel engines we have a tech for that Called Capital Ship Diesels :)

Charles

[Kaiser Kirk]

A suggestion -  Logi wants big diesel engines very big diesel engines we have a tech for that Called Capital Ship Diesels :)
Charles

Well, Bavaria lacks those, but does field marine diesels (1) and diesel-electric rigs. M.A.N. and other manufacturers would be more than happy to take production or developement orders.

(1) and since they are now bundled with the rest of the Naval propulsion engines the HP limit for mine would seem to 20,000shp/shaft, shortly 35, I just haven't figured out how to put them in my non-existant capital ships.

[Logi]

OOC: I need capital ship diesels for diesel locomotives? :-X Except a Diesel Importation Act soon.

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November 17, 1917

The government has ordered the immediately reorganization and modernization of all existing army equipment to bring it up to world (aka West) standards. The army's materials, most which come from captured armories of the Monarchist are dated, often a few centuries old. Realizing such weapons have no place in the rapidly changing field of modern warfare, the government has recalled all these weapons back to China to be melted down and reconstructed as new modern weapons.

OOC: I suppose I'll show this next year in $ paid. Its just basically refreshing the army stockpile by paying the money needed to created the stockpile again, but no BP cost. Does that sound about right?

[The Rock Doctor]

If you mean you're buying ammo, you'd need to pay the full cost of the ammo.

[Logi]

I meant melting down the old artillery pieces and making new pieces. They would probably need new ammo but as most of the army is not artillery rounds, the BP cost, if any, should be relatively small.

[The Rock Doctor]

Not an idea I'd thought about...   

[ctwaterman]

Im  not sure about the expense of totally replacing every single artillary piece in your army.   It sounds expensive to me considering most of this stuff is less then 50 years old as in 1895 Tech.  Normal maintenance should handle the replacement of worn out or damaged guns.

Now as to the feasibility of taking all your guns melting them down and reissuing the new ones.  *looks to  the RRC north*  you sure you want your military without its guns for oh... lets say 6 months to a year  ;D :o 8)