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Cruisers

Date  Class                                            #     Displacement  
1917  Princeregent Luitpold                   2     16000t              
1919  Donar                                           1     20000t            
                                                                       



# in Class : 2

Names :
Prinzregent Luitpold, I/1917
Konig Maximillian I, I/1917

Official Data :
16,000 tons
170m x 22m x 8.5m
28kts, 6,500nm
24x 180mm, 5x TT
150mm belt, 40mm deck



Bavaria Panzerschiff laid down 1917 (Engine 1912)

Displacement:
   12,962 t light; 13,655 t standard; 15,512 t normal; 16,998 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   556.10 ft / 551.18 ft x 59.88 ft (Bulges 69.72 ft) x 27.07 ft (normal load)
   169.50 m / 168.00 m x 18.25 m (Bulges 21.25 m)  x 8.25 m

Armament:
     4 - 7.09" / 180 mm guns in single mounts, 187.39lbs / 85.00kg shells, 1917 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
     20 - 7.09" / 180 mm guns in single mounts, 187.39lbs / 85.00kg shells, 1917 Model
     Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
     10 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
     6 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns in single mounts, 35.32lbs / 16.02kg shells, 1917 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
     4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1917 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 4,715 lbs / 2,139 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 130
   5 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   7.09" / 180 mm   400.26 ft / 122.00 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
   Ends:   1.97" / 50 mm   147.64 ft / 45.00 m   11.48 ft / 3.50 m
     3.28 ft / 1.00 m Unarmoured ends
   Upper:   5.31" / 135 mm   200.13 ft / 61.00 m   19.65 ft / 5.99 m
     Main Belt covers 112 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   5.31" / 135 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      0.79" / 20 mm
   2nd:   5.31" / 135 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      0.79" / 20 mm
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   4th:   0.47" / 12 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 5.91" / 150 mm

Machinery:
   Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Electric motors, 4 shafts, 79,878 shp / 59,589 Kw = 29.00 kts
   Range 6,500nm at 14.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 3,343 tons (90% coal)

Complement:
   694 - 903

Cost:
   £2.565 million / $10.259 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 561 tons, 3.6 %
   Armour: 3,872 tons, 25.0 %
      - Belts: 2,450 tons, 15.8 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 525 tons, 3.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 817 tons, 5.3 %
      - Conning Tower: 79 tons, 0.5 %
   Machinery: 3,469 tons, 22.4 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,704 tons, 30.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,550 tons, 16.4 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 356 tons, 2.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     14,978 lbs / 6,794 Kg = 84.2 x 7.1 " / 180 mm shells or 1.6 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
   Metacentric height 3.6 ft / 1.1 m
   Roll period: 15.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.43
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.25

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has low forecastle, low quarterdeck
   Block coefficient: 0.522
   Length to Beam Ratio: 7.91 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.48 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -12.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 4.92 ft / 1.50 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      17.39 ft / 5.30 m
      - Forecastle (29 %):   17.39 ft / 5.30 m (25.39 ft / 7.74 m aft of break)
      - Mid (50 %):      25.39 ft / 7.74 m
      - Quarterdeck (29 %):   17.39 ft / 5.30 m (25.39 ft / 7.74 m before break)
      - Stern:      17.39 ft / 5.30 m
      - Average freeboard:   20.75 ft / 6.32 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 22,438 Square feet or 2,085 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 561 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 1.94
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Casements are -5 to +22 as the OTL 17cm on Braunschweig class.
Mounts are -4 to +30
For an 180mm/50 firing a 0.8 form 85kg shell Biggun gives ranges of 20,230yds and 22,740yds.

Armor : Upper belt covers casements down to +1.75m, Main belt covers from +1.75m to -1.75m.

Miscellaneous weight is as follows :
2x 25t long range set
2x 100t  Fire control primary & secondary
50t - Flag facilities
25t - forced ventilation for tropical service.
16 -  15 torpeoes.  12 aft for 4 broadside tubes, 4 forward for forefoot tube.
15t - "spare"
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest

Kaiser Kirk

# in Class : 1

Names :
Donar , II/1919

Official Data :
20,000 tons
200m x 25m x 7.0m
28kts, 6,500nm
8x 250mm, 5x TT
150mm belt, 50mm deck

Donar, Bavaria Armored cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
  18,000 t light; 18,970 t standard; 20,999 t normal; 22,622 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
  652.89 ft / 652.89 ft x 68.90 ft (Bulges 78.74 ft) x 24.61 ft (normal load)
  199.00 m / 199.00 m x 21.00 m (Bulges 24.00 m)  x 7.50 m

Armament:
     4 - 10.00" / 254 mm guns (2x2 guns), 606.27lbs / 275.00kg shells, 1919 Model
    Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
    on centreline ends, evenly spread
     4 - 10.00" / 254 mm guns (2x2 guns), 606.27lbs / 275.00kg shells, 1919 Model
    Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
    on side ends, evenly spread
     16 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns in single mounts, 99.21lbs / 45.00kg shells, 1919 Model
    Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
    on side, evenly spread
    16 guns in hull casemates - Limited use in heavy seas
     4 - 3.54" / 90.0 mm guns in single mounts, 22.05lbs / 10.00kg shells, 1919 Model
    Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
    on side, all amidships
     4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1919 Model
    Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
    on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
  Weight of broadside 6,532 lbs / 2,963 kg
  Shells per gun, main battery: 140

Armour:
  - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
  Main:   9.06" / 230 mm   374.02 ft / 114.00 m   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
  Ends:   1.97" / 50 mm   278.54 ft / 84.90 m   13.12 ft / 4.00 m
  Upper:   4.72" / 120 mm   374.02 ft / 114.00 m   11.29 ft / 3.44 m
    Main Belt covers 88 % of normal length

  - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
  Main:   9.06" / 230 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      7.09" / 180 mm
  2nd:   9.06" / 230 mm   5.91" / 150 mm      7.09" / 180 mm
  3rd:   4.72" / 120 mm   0.98" / 25 mm      0.98" / 25 mm
  4th:   0.39" / 10 mm   0.39" / 10 mm            -
  5th:   0.39" / 10 mm         -               -

  - Armour deck: 3.15" / 80 mm, Conning tower: 7.87" / 200 mm

Machinery:
  Coal and oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
  Electric motors, 4 shafts, 92,003 shp / 68,634 Kw = 29.00 kts
  Range 7,445nm at 14.00 kts
  Bunker at max displacement = 3,652 tons (66% coal)

Complement:
  871 - 1,133

Cost:
  £3.804 million / $15.216 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
  Armament: 718 tons, 3.4 %
  Armour: 6,239 tons, 29.7 %
     - Belts: 3,025 tons, 14.4 %
     - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
     - Armament: 1,202 tons, 5.7 %
     - Armour Deck: 1,883 tons, 9.0 %
     - Conning Tower: 129 tons, 0.6 %
  Machinery: 3,647 tons, 17.4 %
  Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,871 tons, 32.7 %
  Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,999 tons, 14.3 %
  Miscellaneous weights: 525 tons, 2.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
  Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
    22,877 lbs / 10,377 Kg = 45.8 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 2.5 torpedoes
  Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
  Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
  Roll period: 17.6 seconds
  Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
        - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.47
  Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.03

Hull form characteristics:
  Hull has a flush deck
  Block coefficient: 0.581
  Length to Beam Ratio: 8.29 : 1
  'Natural speed' for length: 25.55 kts
  Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
  Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 68
  Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -12.00 degrees
  Stern overhang: -6.56 ft / -2.00 m
  Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
     - Stem:      21.13 ft / 6.44 m
     - Forecastle (20 %):   17.85 ft / 5.44 m
     - Mid (50 %):      17.85 ft / 5.44 m
     - Quarterdeck (15 %):   17.85 ft / 5.44 m
     - Stern:      17.85 ft / 5.44 m
     - Average freeboard:   18.11 ft / 5.52 m
  Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
  Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.3 %
     - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 126.1 %
  Waterplane Area: 32,319 Square feet or 3,003 Square metres
  Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 106 %
  Structure weight / hull surface area: 136 lbs/sq ft or 664 Kg/sq metre
  Hull strength (Relative):
     - Cross-sectional: 0.99
     - Longitudinal: 1.04
     - Overall: 1.00
  Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
  Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
  Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Similar to the OTL Von Der Taan in battery layout, with the mid ships turrets en echlon.

Main belt is -2m to +2m WL, with the upper belt carrying to freeboard.

The armor deck is split between a 30mm deck capping the upper belt and the main 50mm deck capping the main belt, bolstered over the magazines and machinery (since the upper deck doesn't cover ends).
Did they beat the drum slowly,
Did they play the fife lowly,
Did they sound the death march, as they lowered you down,
Did the band play the last post and chorus,
Did the pipes play the flowers of the forest