DKB

Started by The Rock Doctor, December 02, 2008, 06:25:09 AM

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The Rock Doctor

A new member / previous lurker - going by the name Valjean - has expressed an interest in the DKB.

Khymerion, DKB's most recent player, has been grappling with a change in job but speculated that he might be able to play as of February.

I would like the board's views - here or via PM as you see fit - on whether to implement "new management" for DKB, and if so, to what degree - if any - we should require Khymerion's work to be retained.

Borys

#1
Ahoj!
1 - Let us save Khymerion's work with the DKB as it is ATM, for possible retrival later, if come February:
- Valjean dropped out;
- Khymerion clambers aboard again;

2 - Valjean - wellcome aboard! - can take over at whatever point he (she?) wishes;

3 - worry about anything else in Ferbruary;


Borys, who has seen quite a few comings and goings of players ...
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
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Sachmle

I feel torn here. I'm the one who talked Khy into coming back and would feel bad about him coming back after work settles and having to learn a 3rd country. However, the game must continue and we can't wait on everyone forever. But, you never dangled NUS while I was away w/ RL so yanking DKB from Khy under similar circumstances (albeit a longer down time) seems harsh. Decisions, decisions. I believe that w/ the current situation in the Africa area a active DKB would be a big plus. We could hear their view on things and see what, if any, reaction they have to it. However, there are other options for a player country, namely Ukraine (which I think is a good 'starter' country) and UNK (which is a little more involved for a newbie) We also haven't hear from Eugenius (AGAIN) for a while nor Viritus Unitas w/ Bharat. Korpen has done a wonderful job bringing Firanji back to life and it would be an interesting country to see come alive, if only as a foil to NS and another voice in the S Pacific. I guess I'm basically all for having a new player, and whatever country he decides and is approved is OK w/ me. I've actually already talked to Valjean for almost an hour last night on MSN. He seems very intelligent and I think once he gets a grip on the political and rules aspects he's gonna be fine. Of course we must see his SS skills first as well. Can't have another Olekit now can we?  ;D
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The Rock Doctor

That depends on whether he's a friend or a foe, doesn't it?

Sachmle

Friend or foe..don't need that kind of screw up. Too many headaches and I think Blooded would kill us all w/ his bare hands if we let someone screw up a nation that bad again.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

P3D

I'd suggest Valjean should try a smaller country first. Comes February, if Khymerion is still flooded with work he should take over DKB. That would also allow to shape up some NPCs.

Possible unclaimed small nations with some shipbuilding capabilities are: Ottomans, Persia, Mughal, Mesoamerica, Siam, and Firanj - in the latter case, perhaps rolling back Korpen's report by a few years.
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maddox

I have to admit that P3D's idea has merit.

But on the other hand, Khymerion had the opportunity, and has the opportunity to express his wish here. As well as Valjean, it's not af this part of the site isn't accessible.

We have seen a lot of starters that did have a lack of batteriepower to get the engine turning, and we have learned to live with it and even adapt to the fact.


P3D

We could ask Swamphen to get back. I am not a mod anymore if that would've be in the way.
The first purpose of a warship is to remain afloat. Anon.
Below 40 degrees, there is no law. Below 50 degrees, there is no God. sailor's maxim on weather in the Southern seas

The Rock Doctor

I did not think that was a factor in his departure - he seemed to simply tire of sims in general.  However, if somebody has his contact info, feel free to send him a note.

maddox

Last communication I got from Swamphen is that he felt like having a burn out.

Sachmle

Quote from: The Rock Doctor on December 02, 2008, 11:34:30 AM
I did not think that was a factor in his departure - he seemed to simply tire of sims in general.  However, if somebody has his contact info, feel free to send him a note.

That would ROCK!!!!... But even his www.swamphen.com site is no more...I fear he may be lost forever.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim

Korpen

Quote from: maddox on December 02, 2008, 11:29:09 AM
We have seen a lot of starters that did have a lack of batteriepower to get the engine turning, and we have learned to live with it and even adapt to the fact.
This is a reason why I think it is a good idea to try and keep NPC country fairly updated. As a new player coming in and having to do a backlog of 5-10 years worth of reports is quite daunting and not all that much fun, as You if any should appreciate. So I think it would be a good idea to try and keep most NPC countries not more then a year or two behind the game "now", both to make it easier to get into the game, and to avoid the "were the hell did all those ships on my border come from" scenario.
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Guinness

Swamphen's old graphics here are all hosted by http://www.swamphen.net/, which is still there.

maddox

Korpen, I tend to agree, but the disadvantage is that it saps a lot of potential creativity from a prospecting new player.

On the other hand, we could work a way around it,
Maybe restricting the NPC reports to pure economics and the amount of ships and what tonnage/amount and modernity of corps of them according to the capacity of the NPC.

Sachmle

Quote from: P3D on December 02, 2008, 11:19:42 AM
That would also allow to shape up some NPCs.

Possible unclaimed small nations with some shipbuilding capabilities are: Ottomans, Persia, Mughal, Mesoamerica, Siam, and Firanj - in the latter case, perhaps rolling back Korpen's report by a few years.

I think that Korpen has the right idea. The NPC should be brought a little more up to date. Granted that's time consuming, and we all already have nations to run. I'm not sure how to do it fairly, or correctly. But I think they should all be given at least SOME history and whatnot.
"All treaties between great states cease to be binding when they come in conflict with the struggle for existence."
Otto von Bismarck

"Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world."
Kaiser Wilhelm

"If stupidity were painfull I would be deaf from all the screaming." Sam A. Grim