Ottoman Budget

Started by miketr, May 24, 2008, 07:25:30 AM

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miketr

Our brief ottoman player (Vukovlad) bought two ships from someone.  Who was that and how much is owed on the ships and when?  Also Spring Sharps of the two ships would be handy.

Michael

Borys

NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!

Borys

Habsburg intelligence is keeping  watchful eye on the doings of the Porte, so here is the pertinent info:

http://www.navalism.org/index.php?topic=2259.0

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Nuevo de Julio class, USA - Italian Built Battleships laid down 1901
2 ships in class - Nuevo de Julio & Coronel Oviedo - SOLD TO OTTOMAN EMPIRE 1912

Displacement:
   12,501 t light; 13,075 t standard; 14,200 t normal; 15,100 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   370.00 ft / 370.00 ft x 76.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
   112.78 m / 112.78 m x 23.16 m  x 7.32 m

Armament:
      6 - 12.00" / 305 mm guns (3x2 guns), 800.00lbs / 362.87kg shells, 1890 Model
     Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
     on centreline, evenly spread
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      14 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 1890 Model
     Quick firing guns in casemate mounts
     on side, all amidships
      6 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 12.00lbs / 5.44kg shells, 1892 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread
   Weight of broadside 6,272 lbs / 2,845 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 80

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   240.00 ft / 73.15 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Ends:   6.00" / 152 mm   130.00 ft / 39.62 m   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
   Upper:   6.00" / 152 mm   240.00 ft / 73.15 m   8.00 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   12.0" / 305 mm   6.00" / 152 mm      12.0" / 305 mm
   2nd:   6.00" / 152 mm   3.00" / 76 mm            -
   3rd:   1.00" / 25 mm   1.00" / 25 mm            -

   - Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 12.00" / 305 mm

Machinery:
   Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
   Direct drive, 3 shafts, 15,235 ihp / 11,366 Kw = 18.00 kts
   Range 6,600nm at 10.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 2,025 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
   649 - 845

Cost:
   £1.477 million / $5.909 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 847 tons, 6.0 %
   Armour: 4,947 tons, 34.8 %
      - Belts: 2,455 tons, 17.3 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 1,479 tons, 10.4 %
      - Armour Deck: 861 tons, 6.1 %
      - Conning Tower: 152 tons, 1.1 %
   Machinery: 2,344 tons, 16.5 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,213 tons, 29.7 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,699 tons, 12.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 1.1 %
                - 50 tons Flag Facilities
                - 25 tons W/T
                - 75 tons Future Growth
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     13,198 lbs / 5,986 Kg = 15.3 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
   Metacentric height 4.0 ft / 1.2 m
   Roll period: 16.0 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.56
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has rise forward of midbreak
   Block coefficient: 0.736
   Length to Beam Ratio: 4.87 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.24 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      22.00 ft / 6.71 m
      - Forecastle (18 %):   20.00 ft / 6.10 m
      - Mid (50 %):      20.00 ft / 6.10 m (12.00 ft / 3.66 m aft of break)
      - Quarterdeck (18 %):   12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Stern:      12.00 ft / 3.66 m
      - Average freeboard:   16.14 ft / 4.92 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 98.7 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 109.3 %
   Waterplane Area: 23,275 Square feet or 2,162 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 86 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 133 lbs/sq ft or 649 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.92
      - Longitudinal: 2.18
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
   Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Italian built, armed in NUS at Puerto Militar with NUS weapons except 12"/35 MB.
NEDS - Not Enough Deck Space for all those guns and torpedos;
Bambi must DIE!