Paging Persia

miketr · August 24, 2007, 01:30:04 PM

Iberia wants to talk to the Persian Empire, any Mod in particular want to act the part?

Borys · August 24, 2007, 02:03:51 PM

Ahoj!
Habla comigo, effendi!

The other guys are busy with the war, so it's time for me to earn my keep :)
Borys

miketr · August 24, 2007, 02:29:27 PM

First question is has an anyone attempted to found the Anglo-Persian Oil Company? Would be Iberian-Persian Oil Company I guess if I do...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Iranian_Oil_Company

Basicly Iberia needs to look into a secure oil supply. Since the time is right I figure this is a good a place as any to start looking.

Using the forum search I didn't really notice anything at first glance.

Borys · August 24, 2007, 02:33:10 PM

Ahoj!
IIRC nobody set up anything there. You can have the Sociedade de Esploracion de Petroleos Perso-Iberico (DF will correct my Castillian). We'll arrange the price by PM :). Basically, the way I see it,l you'll have to invest something in the Persian economy.
Borys

P3D · August 24, 2007, 03:51:27 PM

Persia is a major oil supplier of Orange.

Borys · August 24, 2007, 09:48:23 PM

Ahoj!
Any problems for Persia supplying both?
If it is a problem - then I guess Russia, CSA or the Normans could be a source.
Mesoamerica - or too early for that?
Borys

miketr · August 24, 2007, 10:14:31 PM

Quote from: P³D on August 24, 2007, 03:51:27 PM
Persia is a major oil supplier of Orange.

Stuff like that really needs to be public in some way. Also when was it put on line as oil production didn't start there historicly till April 1909 and real exports 1913.

The next bet to look for developing a supply would be the Ottoman Empire the Rumania. SA America would be the 1930's I believe.

Which brings up an idea... do we want to add OIL as a resource to be tracked in the game?

Michael

Tanthalas · August 24, 2007, 10:14:51 PM

Since Persia is out of the picture id advise you to pick from this list. its just the top 10.

Italy might be interested in Further developing the Lybian fields, or you could just go to war in Nygeria

miketr · August 24, 2007, 10:17:36 PM

The problem with that map is its current. In this time period the US produced more oil than the rest of the world combined. So that would be the CSA. The Lybian oil fields don't get found till the 1950's for example. Saudi, 1930's. Iraq is 1920's I think. Etc...

Michael

Tanthalas · August 24, 2007, 10:29:38 PM

I know but since i plan on using oil burning ships im going to have to "develop" a petrolium industry, as will you if you choose to use oil burners. as for the mexican fields, it isnt to large a jump to say if they have oil in texas shouldnt there be oil across the boarder. As for the rest i supose ill have to figure out how to find the lybian reserve.

maddox · August 24, 2007, 10:39:49 PM

Historical irl is a guideline over here. Not a truth.

If you backtrack P³D postings, anybody can find out he invested a lot of time in making sure he got the inroad in Persia, even to the detriment to the DKB's colonial investment there.

I agree, I should get the N-verse history back up. Unfortunatly, there is a reason I was happy that Borys, Ithekro and P³D wanted to share the responsibility. I do not have as much time left to invest.
Daily life caught up. Rebuilding a house, building up a metal working shop , keep a wonderfull lady happy, and have another hobby that consumes a lot of time.

With the difference of the N-verse III to the old board, and 9 years of new history to be put in it, I was reluctant to do so.

Resources are like IRL, with exceptions on the newly created N-verse only area's. Those have a fair share of the resources.

Time of development is a combination of IRL , and can be advanced by good writing, as a kind of bonus.
The CSA player on the old board got the development of the oil in his tech tree, and even now the CSA, with Carthaganian as player, is the main exporter of oil, and the technology to use it is more advanced in the Republican states.

So, if any country wants a good source of oil, Persia, the CSA and strangely enough, the Habsburg Empire are the real sellers.
If the urge to develop own sources becomes to big, let it be known that expanding the forum with good stories or other contributions to the basic structure of the N-verse world can be rewarded with resource development. This resource can be natural, economical or humane.

miketr · August 24, 2007, 10:42:02 PM

You can't with the current tech I would suspect. The oil field in Libya aren't to far out of the way...

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/libya_econ_1974.jpg

The problem is that the location is open desert and required air survey and were deep wells. No hint of oil there at all till people started to look for it 1954 and it took them 5 years to find it.

Michael

maddox · August 24, 2007, 10:48:09 PM

Rocky can aswer these kind of issues with irl info I guess. The thing I can do is look it up on the net (with Wikipedia as easy, but flawed instrument).

Or if it comes to local knowledge, (Belgium and the Netherlands) I can use my personal experience and knowledge.

But deep well oil operations in 1908, doubtfull, even discovered and technologicaly possible.
The cost attached is the main issue.
The same thing as in irl. We all could use hydrogen, it's just to economicaly and ecologicaly expensive. (in 1909 making hydrogen wasn't difficult, just too expensive)

miketr · August 24, 2007, 10:50:41 PM

Quote from: maddox on August 24, 2007, 10:39:49 PM
Historical irl is a guideline over here. Not a truth.

If you backtrack P³D postings, anybody can find out he invested a lot of time in making sure he got the inroad in Persia, even to the detriment to the DKB's colonial investment there.

I agree, I should get the N-verse history back up. Unfortunatly, there is a reason I was happy that Borys, Ithekro and P³D wanted to share the responsibility. I do not have as much time left to invest.
Daily life caught up. Rebuilding a house, building up a metal working shop , keep a wonderfull lady happy, and have another hobby that consumes a lot of time.

With the difference of the N-verse III to the old board, and 9 years of new history to be put in it, I was reluctant to do so.

Resources are like IRL, with exceptions on the newly created N-verse only area's. Those have a fair share of the resources.

Time of development is a combination of IRL , and can be advanced by good writing, as a kind of bonus.
The CSA player on the old board got the development of the oil in his tech tree, and even now the CSA, with Carthaganian as player, is the main exporter of oil, and the technology to use it is more advanced in the Republican states.

So, if any country wants a good source of oil, Persia, the CSA and strangely enough, the Habsburg Empire are the real sellers.
If the urge to develop own sources becomes to big, let it be known that expanding the forum with good stories or other contributions to the basic structure of the N-verse world can be rewarded with resource development. This resource can be natural, economical or humane.

Why Austria?

As to Orange and Persia if it was done it was done. There just is nothing about it I could find on the forums N3 and I did look before I started this thread. At least the search function didn't turn up anything.

Real life or not... Real life is a good yard stick. I waited till now to look into the matter because till I started to consider building oil fired ships there was no need for Iberia to look into it.

Michael

maddox · August 24, 2007, 10:56:54 PM

IRL, Austria had some good oil fields running. Ask Borys for more info.

Like I said, i appolegise for not posting nor even updating the Encyclopedia Nautica. And will do so asap.

Again, I'm not alone anymore, and we like to be on 1 line, we 4 moderators.

Currently, I'm doing this on my own, and try to be as neutral as possible.

And I forgot, Indonesia has exploitable oil wells.